Trump opens Calif. rally with families of people killed by illegal immigrants

[TomCADem]

Source: The Hill

Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump underscored his hard stance on illegal immigration during a rally Thursday night by bringing several people on stage whose family members had been killed by illegal immigrants.

"They're unbelievable, they've suffered," Trump said during a California rally before bringing them up on the stage. "These are great people."

Trump gave the mic to Jamiel Shaw, whose son was shot and killed by an illegal immigrant in 2008. Shaw has previously appeared in a campaign ad for Trump.

Shaw said he found out the man who shot his son was an "illegal alien on his third gun charge."


Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/278120-trump-brings-up-group-of-people-who-lost-loved-ones-to

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While the media focuses on the demonstrations and clashes, Trump is not exactly shying away from stirring up racial resentment even as he begins to campaign in California.

[groundloop]

1. What's missed is that Trump was also showcasing people killed by guns

Though, being a repuke, he would never say that.

[MariaThinks]

23. very good point. republicans make stuff up and select only what they want to believe

[Press Virginia]

26. The guns didn't kill them.

[Skittles]

37. the magic bullets did

[Press Virginia]

38. They'd have to have been magic

Or maybe the person who pulled the trigger is to blame.

[Skittles]

41. OR MAYBE IT'S THE PERSON *AND* THE GUNS

done here; people who think there's no gun problem in America MAKE ME SICK

[Press Virginia]

42. Ahhhh a conspiracy. I wonder if the gun turned states evidence to get a lighter sentence

Illegal immigrant with 2 previous gun possession felonies, murders people and you want to blame the gun?

Which law do you think would have stopped a guy who illegally crossed the border and illegally obtained guns on 3 occasions before disregarding the law against murder?

[moonbabygo]

43. The gun would have had to have been

stolen

[Press Virginia]

44. Kidnapped. That's probably why the gun did it

Just like Patty Hearst

[HassleCat]

2. Tit for tat?

Maybe next time he'll invite families of legal immigrants who were killed by drunken rednecks.

[blm]

8. ^^^^^^^

never happen

[BootinUp]

3. Wow. I am wondering how far this maniac will go. nt

[SwankyXomb]

5. The White House, if he isn't stopped

And that means all of us have to get out the vote for the Democratic nominee, even if you find them not to your liking.

[eissa]

6. THIS^^^^

I cannot recall a more frightening, unqualified and despicable presidential candidate in my lifetime. There is absolutely no reason or logic for this man to be anywhere near the White House. He would make the Bush years seem Disney-ish by comparison.

[Abouttime]

18. Pure hate speech

I am 100% behind the brave protesters at Trump rallies, they are true patriots.
Trump must be stopped at all costs, civil disobedience is just one of the methods but it's important and we should all support the protesters. So far all of the violence we have seen has been the fault of Trump and the thugs who support him.

[sofa king]

22. Cleveland.

(I have been waiting for 30 years for someone to set me up with this joke. Punchline is at 7:20. Thank you!)

[blm]

7. I watched that and was horrified at the way he spoke.

Blaming ALL for the crimes of the fewest.

He then went on to say how he would be the most vicious commander in chief.

And some here still try to claim there is no difference between GOP and Dems.

[procon]

9. His next stunt will showcase people killed by women, blacks and Democrats. nt

[blm]

13. And the 'no difference' crowd here will still try and justify their absurdly benign

view of his candidacy.

[Press Virginia]

28. Or maybe police officers

Why is it okay to use victims of police violence in a campaign but not victims of criminals that should not have been in the country in the first place?

This isn't about agreeing with Trumps views it's more about the victims that resulted as part of government policies

[procon]

30. You're missing the big picture, yeah?

It's not about the victims. Don't you believe for one second that Trump cares about any of those people. They're nothing but props in his stage show extravaganzas, and he couldn't give a rat's ass about them. It doesn't matter who those victims are, they are exploitable and continue to be useful in feeding his ego. They are expendable, nothing more than interchangeable set decorations that he can trot out on stage for a photo op whenever he needs to feed his monstrous ego and get a cheap applause line out of his audience.

[Press Virginia]

31. But when Hillary used the families of victims of policie violence

it was sincere?

[procon]

33. She has has been a strong advocate for issues that affect women and children

throughout her political life, both in America and other countries around the world. Unlike Trump, Hillary has policies that reflect her long interest in women's rights and improving family services, so I'd have to say, no, I can't call that an example of exploitation.

[Press Virginia]

34. She was also a strong advocate of tougher criminal penalties and policing policies

So when she sits on a stage with the families of the victims of the policies she advocated for, using them as props, how is she better than Trump?

[procon]

35. Yes she was at one point, but like everything else, times and views, often change.

Like most adults, I'd be chagrined to reveal some of my sincerely held views from back in the day. Oh brother, I have changed so much that my old self wouldn't even recognize today's version. Not that any of this has any bearing on what has transpired, but no one is so rigid that they can't change their views to reflect what they've learned or be swayed by new attitudes.

Now, I can't help you find positive things on Trump's policies... just can't do it. You can understand that, I hope. However, if you were actually trying to find information about Hillary's views on a subject that seem critial to you, her policy stance is here:
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/criminal-justice-reform/

[Press Virginia]

36. Funny how her views changed only when campaigning in front of black audiences

Her advocacy of those policies killed the loved ones of the people she used as props for black votes

Her use of the families of victims is no different than Trump's use of the loved ones killed by illegals.....except Trump wasn't advocating for the policies that lead to the deaths.

Both are disgusting

[procon]

39. Most people would fail your purity test.

I'm too scared of letting Trump become president by gambling away the future based on your perception.

[Press Virginia]

40. What purity test? I'm asking how anyone could

logically ignore or excuse using the families of victims of police violence by an advocate of the very policies that led to the deaths but be offended by Trumps use of the families who lost loved ones killed by illegals?

[firebrand80]

10. As much has I hate to say it

This is a very smart political move.

His stance on Immigration has broad support in the Republican party, and is one of the main reasons he's been doing so well in the Southwest.

To top in off it's an issue that Cruz can't get the the right of him on.

[christx30]

12. I hate trump as much as the next person.

But agree with you. He's telling his story. And he's drawing a very stark line between himself and whomever (Hillary) is going to be the Democratic nominee.
Getting his base fired up about a phantom enemy is what any politician would be doing right now. "This is a major threat to the country, and I'm the guy that's going to deal with it, unlike my esteemed opponent that would love to see your families murdered."

[Yupster]

47. I agree

I think it was brilliant.

He really is a master salesman. Showcasing minority victims especially I thought was pretty darn brilliant.

I expect him to lose the election badly, but he is different so there's danger there.

[ripcord]

11. The Jameel Shaw case pushes all the buttons

His mother was serving in Iraq, he was a star football player who was being scouted by large colleges, his killer was exactly the type of offender who should have been deported but was protected by sanctuary city policies. Don't ignore how powerful these words are to people who want to believe all undocumented people are criminals.

[jtuck004]

14. 8 million families foreclosed on by predatory bank$ter/jihadists, tens of millions thrown

into a permanent state of poverty from which they will never recover, donors to the elections that owned banks richer than ever.

We don't open a rally with the victims and victors of the real estate swindler and other rentiers..

We just call it another day.

[christx30]

15. And I blame our side's politicians for that

kind of problem. It's a hell of a lot more relatable than Trump's speech. He's telling his story. We need to do a better job of telling our's.

[romanic]

24. So true.

And it's extremely sad, not even Sanders did that.

[jtuck004]

29. That's all he talks about. He has more class than to parade them on a stage like objects.

Most of us don't need that.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

16. How about the families of legal immigrants killed by Right Wing Authoritarian Followers?

[yeoman6987]

27. Get Hillary or Bernie to do it.

Nobody is stopping them from doing it. Our side does not fight at all or at least not like this. I think we better for this election.

[NWCorona]

17. He's running a nationalist campaign and immigrants happen to be an easy target nt

[KamaAina]

19. You stay classy, Donald.

[SCVDem]

20. Next we can line up children under 8

Who have accidentally killed a someone with a gun.

What is the point again?

[Jitter65]

21. That's because there wasn't enough room for families of those killed by US citizens. nt

[LeftyMom]

25. That will be the first and last time his supporters care about somebody named Jamiel.

[suffragette]

32. Stoking hate

Just what I expect from him.

[TomCADem]

46. Yup, The Synergy Between Protesters Waving Mexican Flags...

...and Donald Trump denouncing protesters as being un-American and full of criminals and rapists could give rise to an explosive situation.

[sufrommich]

45. He's really stoking some ugly,dangerous shit.

I don't like to Godwin,but Trump is appealing to the same dark forces Hitler did.