Now Cameron Warns Brexit Would Lead To War And Genocide: PM's Extraordinary Intervention Leads...

[Purveyor]

Source: Daily Mail UK

Now Cameron warns Brexit would lead to war and genocide: PM's extraordinary intervention leads Out campaigners to accuse Downing Street of desperation

By James Slack and Gerri Peev for the Daily Mail
Published: 18:00 EST, 8 May 2016 | Updated: 18:00 EST, 8 May 2016

Europe risks sliding back into conflict and genocide if Britain votes to leave the EU, David Cameron will say today.

In an extraordinary escalation of the referendum battle, he will invoke Winston Churchill, the Second World War and the graves of the fallen.

The Remain camp will also wheel out military veterans in an emotive video warning against jeopardising the sacrifices of the dead.

Out campaigners have accused Downing Street, which yesterday claimed house prices would collapse following a vote to leave, of desperation. They say No 10 is panicking with the polls neck and neck despite the intervention of Barack Obama and a series of dire warnings about the risks of Brexit.



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[840high]

1. BS

[anigbrowl]

12. Brilliant argument. You should join a debating team. nt

[pampango]

2. It's bad because it jeopardizes workers rights among other liberal standards, not because it will

will cause war and genocide. Exaggeration is counterproductive.

[Vincardog]

3. Leaving a "union" that surrenders fiscal policy and labor protections "jeopardizes workers rights"

?

[pampango]

4. The British Trade Unions Congress opposes Brexit because of the labor protections

that are a part of EU membership.

Britain's unions ready to join fight to stay in European Union, top official says

Britain's trade unions are close to joining the push to keep the country in the European Union, bringing grass-roots muscle to a fight that has so far been dominated by big business and bankers, the head of the country's largest union group said. ... The TUC, which represents most unions, remains a political force with close ties to the opposition Labour Party which is broadly supportive of EU membership.

Unions will fight to stay in, emphasizing jobs and workers' rights, Frances O'Grady, general secretary of the Trades Union Congress, told Reuters in an interview. "What we need to do is start putting rights and jobs center stage in the campaign debate," O'Grady said. "The bulk of the rights at work that matter to us originated in the European Union."

The EU-mandated protections for workers would be at risk if Britain votes to leave the EU. Many lawmakers in Cameron's Conservative Party resent them as an embodiment of EU over-reach into the affairs of member states.

For the TUC, by contrast, they are sacrosanct. "A Brexit would have massive implications for jobs, rights, and the very fabric of the UK," O'Grady said, referring to a possible British exit. "If you take that floor away, workers will be worse off. It's a hell of a gamble for those, who want to leave Europe, to depend on particularly the government we have now to protect the rights on which so many people's working lives depend."

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-unions-idUSKCN0V517H

[JPnoodleman]

6. Theres zero reason the UK's parliament can't enact labor protection.

And zero reason to expect the Neo-Liberal oriented EU to continue to protect them.

[anigbrowl]

8. Drivel

THE UK parliament could do it but it won't because the Conservative party has a substantial majority and the Conservatives are historically hostile to labor. The existing protections are significant because workers got more rights under EU agreements than they did before. Calling the EU neoliberal is laughably ignorant. As a European, let me invite you to actually try researching a subject before forming an opinion on it.

[JPnoodleman]

9. Then win the next election?

The other party gaining power seems like a pretty shit tier reason to dissolve your own countries sovereignty and hope the new government won't turn on you.

How long until the Conservatives own the EU?

Also, their willingness to go along with TTP so far kind proves they are on board.

[anigbrowl]

11. You literally have no idea what you are talking about

And I have no time to educate you. It just doesn't look like it's going to be worth the effort. If you're worried about dissolution of sovereignty then it proves you have zero understanding of what this referendum about, how the EU works, or the history of the UK's membership of the EU. Right now I take you about as seriously as I would someone from Texas talking about secession from the USA...such people hold their views very sincerely, but that doesn't alter the fact that they're crackpots..

[pampango]

10. The UK's parliament is controlled by Conservatives. That's a pretty big reason.

Why should workers' rights come and go depending on which party wins an election? Workers' rights have survived long periods of Conservative rule because they could not revoke these rights and stay in the EU. It would seem that British unions would like for it to stay that way.

And zero reason to expect the Neo-Liberal oriented EU to continue to protect them.

You may be right but, apparently, the Trades Union Congress and Labour Party seem to disagree with you. They oppose Brexit precisely because they expect continued EU membership to protect those rights.

[Odin2005]

14. That should be up to voters, not unaccountable paternalistic technocrats in Brussels.

[pampango]

15. We disagree. I don't think that workers' rights (among many civil rights) should not be left up to

voters. I understand why labor unions in the UK like the protections they have now. I don't resent 'big government' "technocrats" who assure these rights.

[anigbrowl]

7. Complete nonsense

UK workers have far better protection under EU regulations than they did before. Indeed most of the conservative opposition to the EU is based on a dislike of excess regulation coming from Brussels, much like conservative people in Texas like to whine about Washington DC messing up their economy. Yours is one of the most ignorant comments I've seen on DU.

[anigbrowl]

5. He's right, I think

If the UK leaves the EU it could be a fatal blow for Europe and the UK will go into a severe recession within 10 years, more likely 5. I'm European by the way, so I think I'm a little better informed about this than most people here.

[smirkymonkey]

17. And not just a little arrogant and self-satisfied.

[End Of The Road]

18. +1. Best post in this thread. nt

[Odin2005]

13. CATS AND DOGS LIVING TOGETHER! MASS HYSTERIA!

The corporatists are really desperate.

[pampango]

16. I suspect FDR would agree that a return to competing nationalisms in Europe is not the road

to peace in the long run.

International cooperation on which enduring peace must be based is not a one-way street. Nations like individuals do not always see alike or think alike, and international cooperation and progress are not helped by any Nation assuming that it has a monopoly of wisdom or of virtue.

But we must not permit the many specific and immediate problems of adjustment connected with the liberation of Europe to delay the establishment of permanent machinery for the maintenance of peace. Under the threat of a common danger, the United Nations joined together in war to preserve their independence and their freedom. They must now join together to make secure the independence and freedom of all peace-loving states on that continent, so that never again shall tyranny be able to divide and conquer.

We and the other United Nations are going forward, with vigor and resolution, in our efforts to create such a system by providing for it strong and flexible institutions of joint and cooperative action.

Perfectionism, no less than isolationism or imperialism or power politics, may obstruct the paths to international peace. Let us not forget that the retreat to isolationism a quarter of a century ago was started not by a direct attack against international cooperation but against the alleged imperfections of the peace.

In our disillusionment after the last war we preferred international anarchy to international cooperation with Nations which did not see and think exactly as we did. We gave up the hope of gradually achieving a better peace because we had not the courage to fulfill our responsibilities in an admittedly imperfect world.

It is our purpose to help the peace-loving peoples of Europe to live together as good neighbors, to recognize their common interests and not to nurse their traditional grievances against one another.

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=16595