Buddhist monk hacked to death in Bangladesh

[Lodestar]

Source: Reuters

An elderly Buddhist monk was hacked to death on Saturday at a temple in Bangladesh, police said.

The body of Mongsowe U Chak, 75, was found at the isolated temple where he lived alone in Naikkhangchhari village, about 338 kilometers (211 miles) southeast of Dhaka, police said.

The Muslim-majority nation of 160 million people has seen a surge in violent attacks over the past few months in which liberal activists, members of minority Muslim sects and other religious groups have been targeted by Islamist extremists.



Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-bangladesh-crime-idUSKCN0Y506A

[dinkytron]

1. This is so dark and unimaginable.

[FLPanhandle]

2. Is Islam such a weak religion it can't survive any other competitive belief system?

Apparently so.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

3. You could ask the same about Christianity in its darker hours.

A-holes exist in every religion.

[FLPanhandle]

4. Islam obviously has a greater % of assholes though

As an Atheist, I think all religions are idiotic, but I can say that even here in the bible belt without being hacked to death.

How long do you think I'd last in some Islamic countries?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

5. I'm not realy sure that you understand the past history of the church.

What you are wrongly stating is your comfort level in the present tense in a Democracy.

Go back a few hundred years and tell me that you wouldn't have been broken in the wheel or burned at the stake as a witch or heretic.

Really.

[FLPanhandle]

6. Thanks for proving my point

If you have to go back hundreds of years to find an example as odious as modern Islam, then you prove my point.

Thanks!

[smirkymonkey]

7. +1000

So typical here.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

28. What's typical is Western ignorance then

high-fiving over it.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

26. Again, you really are having a hard time with something that a child could understand.

You are comparing apples to oranges, attempting to find parity, then slapping yourself on the back when you missed the obvious.

[FLPanhandle]

32. Oh even a child can spot an apologist for Islamic attacks

So can everyone else here.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

34. Nobody is apologizing for murder.

I just don't pretend that Christianity is any better: not being blind to the horrors it has created.

[FLPanhandle]

42. You've never said a thing about the Islamic murderers

But have said a whole lot about ancient Christians.

It's pretty plain to everyone what your agenda is.

You are sad and pathetic.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

45. I believe that you don't know how to read.

3. You could ask the same about Christianity in its darker hours.

A-holes exist in every religion.

What's more pathetic is the Islam haters.

In another time the same sort would have been scapegoating Jews.

[Skittles]

50. could you tell us what current Christian group is on par with ISIS and Boko Haram?

thank you

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

51. Again, why is it so inconceivably hard to understand

that Christianity and Islam cannot be compared in parity?

But if you really need to think about it then consider George Bush and PNAC... How many Iraqis did our little Desert storm II kill or maim?

But that wasn't religion some might say? Bullshit.

The Wester conservatives/MIC worship money and power.

[kwassa]

82. The KKK springs to mind.

Wikipedia has a big page on Christian terrorists in various countries around the world.

Uganda, Lebanon, India, the Central African Republic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

[Cal33]

10. Islam is also 6 centuries younger than Christianity. I think religions also go through

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a maturation process, just like people do. The Inquisition was started by Pope Innocent III
around 1230. He wanted to make sure that the people learned the correct Christian teachings.
There already were many deviations from the Catholic Church's points of view at that time.
Pope Innocent III did not order the torture and burning at the stake.

The above horror was begun by the second or third pope after Innocent III. The Inquisition
was officially banned only in 1830 (although the torture and burnings at the stake had stopped
long before then). The Inquisition lasted 6 centuries.

Today, I believe it's the fanatics who are giving Islam a bad name. These fanatics, in my
opinion, are sadistic people to begin with. They are using religion as an excuse to vent their
passions, just as the Christian sadists were doing at the time of the Inquisition. These were
the socio- and psychopaths of that time. The sociopaths of today can be found - for example -
among the Corporate Power people, who are amassing millions and billions for themselves by
hook and by crook, and they couldn't care less about causing the deaths of millions through
Wars for Profit, [Edited] and the millions of former Middle-Class people whom they have pauperized,
and many of whom are also dying from want and inability to pay for medical care.

[FLPanhandle]

11. Frankly, that's bullshit

Religions are not babies, teenagers, then adults.

There are far too many religious examples that don't follow your model.

What you are basically saying is long ago Christian cultures were assholes, so we should excuse modern Islamic assholes.

I don't buy it.

[Cal33]

12. I never said anything about the wrong-doers. Don't put words into my mouth. I'd like to

see wrong-doers caught and punished according to the law when found guilty.

Added: You evidently know little about religious history.

[FLPanhandle]

13. What exactly does Islam being younger than Christianity have to do with it then?

Because it's younger, we should excuse them?

The age of Islam has nothing to do with it unless you are trying to say "well, give them a break, Christians in the middle ages were pretty bad too".

[MariaThinks]

16. you don't know anything of reigious history

aside from islam, do any of the other major religions preach the following:

1. throw gay people off buildings
2. stone women to death who are raped by their relatives
3. allow up to 4 wives
4. denounce all other religions as false.
5. sentence people converting out of islam to death

these are some of the things that islam teaches.

[Cal33]

22. Christianity used to do some of the horrible things you mentioned above

also. As for polygamy:

It was the practice in many Arabic and other countries (including China) for
thousands of years for poor people to drown baby girls when they were born,
because they represented a financial expense to the family.

There were more females than males. One reason was that wars were always
going on, and too many young men were killed as soldiers. When Mohammed
came along, he forbade the practice. Why kill them? Why not marry them off
when they're older? He restricted the number of wives to 4.

It sure was an improvement over drowning the babies. We have to take into
consideration what was going on at the time some law was made.

Today, the horrible acts you described above are committed mostly by religious
fanatics. There are many different sects among the Muslims, just as there are
many different sects among in Christianity. There are religious fanatics among
Christians over here, too. It's just that our civil laws don't allow some of the
these practices. Mormons believe in polygamy. The laws of the land
say "No," in spite of which, every now and then we read of some people who
are practicing it in secret.

[Cal33]

18. What I am basically saying is, let's not be so hasty at pointing out the sins of the other

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fellow, we have many sins of our own.

Did you know that in Germany the kids in school are taught what Hitler had done sparing
no details, including the probability that Hitler himself was one-eighth Jewish?

Do we teach our kids here that the American Natives had been slaughtered close to the
point of extinction? In 1800, the estimated population of the Native Americans was about
20 million in North America. Today there are only about 5 million. During those 200+ years,
the population of all the other racial and ethnic groups had gone up many times. Only the
Native Americans have decreased in numbers. And they were merely defending their land
against foreign invaders -- as anyone else would have done.

[FLPanhandle]

24. Sorry, that is a B.S. argument

Don't complain about injustice now because generations ago there were injustices. WTF?

You are either seeking to apologize for the murderous scum, or trying to deflect anyone from condemning their actions.

Either path is pathetic.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

29. The way you dig your feet in on this issue shows

that perhaps you have the same stubborn streak as the Islamic radicals who hate the West.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

46. "Religions are not babies, teenagers, then adults."

Oh, so they never grow, adapt or change?

You are out of your depth.

[TipTok]

84. That's like comparing someone with special needs...

... and being impressed that he knows his name and how to use the bathroom in their 20s.

Might be better than nothing but they are still severely handicapped.

I don't understand why we have such incredibly low expectations for religions.

[FrodosPet]

8. In exactly the same proportion and intensity?

Yes, all religions have some horrible ideas and some horrible adherents.

But in this current world, one stands out for violent imperialism.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

30. Again the same argument could be made for

Christianity.

[FrodosPet]

35. Not to the same depth and intensity as Islam

Both religions have a LOT of blood on their hands.

Both have dark, brutal scriptures. Both have dark, brutal histories.

But I left Christianity, and the worst that happened was my grandma telling me she was going to pray for me. Not a single death threat.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

37. And again you are suggesting that there has to be some parity?

Yes, we get it. You don't get it.

Muslims bad. Pure bigotry based on the actions of those who use Islam as Christianity was once used.

[marble falls]

38. And how many Americans want Islam erased from the US?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

39. Winner, winner, chicken dinner!

[MH1]

9. But currently the worldwide level of A-hole-ness is WAY higher in one particular religion.

And frankly, I think hacking an elderly monk of another religion to death is somewhat beyond being an "A-hole".

Telling a woman she can't drive or have to wear a full face covering in public is being an a-hole. Treating ALL women as property of men is somewhat beyond being an "A-hole".

The closest I can think of to the barbarism that is coming out of some areas of Islam (not all Muslims but many areas around the world) is the Lord's Resistance Army in Africa. That's one part of the world where there is some truly horrific behavior by supposed "Christians" is occurring. And yeah, there's the treatment of gays in Uganda and maybe some other places. (Remember this isn't about harassment, this is about imprisonment and/or execution.) Many Islamic countries do that so we can take that one off.

Bottom line is if you stack up the horrific behavior around the world by the different religions (and let's not forget atheist regimes like China and North Korea) only one will stand out as far worse then the rest in modern times.

Kind of like comparing lying politicians. Yeah Hillary and Bernie have told some falsehoods. Next to Trump? No comparison.

[MariaThinks]

17. making excuses for islamic driven murders enables the terrorists.

[Cal33]

21. Please see my reply #12 above.

[Cal33]

23. During the 19th and early 20th centuries, Europeans (mainly Britain and France)

invaded and colonized many of the Near East countries. The Westerners not only
took home the natural resources found in these lands, they also treated their
colonials very harshly -- humiliating them with their arrogant ways. This lasted
for over a century. But around WWI and WWII, Britain and France left these
lands, returning them to their own people. But the humiliation of more than a
century of occupation left a lasting hatred among these people for Westerners.

Along comes GW Bush, Jr., who lied the American people into war against Iraq,
for the profit of the Big Oil Corporations. Americans are also Westerners. The
hatred of the Arabs for Britain and France was now shifted to us. I firmly believe
that if there had been no invasion of Iraq by Bush, Jr., there never would have
been the incident of the burning down of The World Trade Center in NYC.

It also seems very likely that the vast majority of problems facing our nation
today -- be it social, financial or educational -- are caused the unending greed of
our Corporations, and the wars against small resource-rich foreign nations are
an extra bonus for Corporate big wheels. Too many of them are sociopaths.

[christx30]

43. The destruction of the World Trade Center

happened 2 years before the invasion of Iraq by Bush Jr.
9/11 wasn't the fault of anyone except for Osama Bin Laden's people. Just like when Ramzi Yousef bombed the WTC in 1993. No one was at fault except for them.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

48. What a marvelous crystal ball you have.

I guess the Saudis had nothing to do with 911...seeing how the 28 pages from the 911 comission need to remain hidden.

[christx30]

49. I never said anything about the Saudis.

You said:

I firmly believe that if there had been no invasion of Iraq by Bush, Jr., there never would have
been the incident of the burning down of The World Trade Center in NYC.

And I was pointing out that 9/11 happened 2 years before the invasion of Iraq. Unless Al Qaeda was getting preemptive revenge on something that hadn't happened yet? Or there was an attack on the WTC that happened after 2003 that just didn't make the news?

[Cal33]

60. All right. I was wrong about this one. But below is a link with a list of all the foreign

governments the US was involved in trying to overthrow since after World War II.
We were successful in some, and unsuccessful in others.

The link simply lists the names of the the countries, and the dates of
US attempts to overthrow them. To get more information, just look up Google.

The point is this: the more frequently we were involved in one area of the
globe, the more the people of that area learned to hate us. Example: We
overthrew the democratically elected government in Iran in 1953, whose
Prime Minister was Mossadegh, and installed our puppet Shah Pahlahvi. In
time, the Iranis overthrew the Shah anyway. America is not loved in that
part of the world. We were militarily involved there too often. Can you blame
them for hating us?

http://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list

[MariaThinks]

62. here is the more likely explanation

islam teaches the following:
- it is the only true religion, all others religions should be forced to convert at the end of a sword. In the 1600 century muslims invaded many countries and did what isis is doing today. Millions were converted in the regions that are today Afghanistan, Egypt, Iraq, iran and india or beheaded. Resources were looted by the emperor Aurangzeb. These arab countries were not always muslim obviously, so there were conquered by the muslims.

- anyone converted away from islam is to be put to death

- any criticism of islam is worthy of death (see Salman Rushdie)

- the soviet union invaded Afghanistan and put the country under harsh rule in the 1980. The CIA armed the locals to overthrow the Soviet invasion. After this was successful, one of the leaders, Osama Bin Laden, resented the American presence in 'muslim' countries (the ones muslims slaughtered others to gain control) and he wanted to send the US a message - hence the attack on the world trade centre

- as much as I loathe the bushes and the republicans and their invasions of Iraq, the first invasion was at the request of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. Saddam Hussein had annexed Kuwait. Both Saudi and Kuwait came to the US for help. Of course, 911, now it seems was executed at least in part from support of Saudi Arabia.

- much as our relationship with Pakistan has been - they support us and arm terrorists at the same time - take our financial aid and divert it to terrorists - claim to be hunting bin laden but let him hide near a military base - the relationship with Saudi Arabia seems to have led to 911.


We can keep trying to justify Islamic attacks, but if you want to look at history, islam has conquered and slaughtered millions. Christianity did but changed. I don't see countries preaching that we should adopt the old Testament as a way of law (see sharia).

Frankly, trying to justify Islamic terrorist today through history - which is itself viewed in only one sided (much as republican arguments are - for example, their arguments that the middle class is neglected when their tax cuts are what hurt the middle class) is truly enabling the terrorists.

You may not want to accept any of this - simple google searches will prove what I'm saying - but there are billions of people in the world who are fed up with Islamic terrorism and duplicity from arab governments.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

47. Nobody is making excuses.

The bigots may see it that way though.

[MariaThinks]

15. so instead of denouncing the murder and saying it's unacceptable

you decide to draw an equivalency to Christianity? It had nothing to do in this case.

the islamists murderers seem to be enabled by those sitting in the middle making excuses for them.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

31. I love the false equivalency that some spin to pretend

that the Muslims are way worse for the actions of a few, but have to = the West in civility.

[Cal33]

61. Unfortunately, that's probably the way they really think and feel.

[MariaThinks]

14. it seems so

and ignore those who will compare Christianity from the 1500 to muslims of today. These people don't care about the victims while they make excuses for islamists murdering other people.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

33. It's called reality.

Christians didn't care either when the were putting the Jew, Muslim, witch or geretic to the sword.

[smirkymonkey]

41. Oh quit apologizing for them.

It's ridiculous.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

44. Nobody is doing that. Bur somebody is getting a rise

by vilifying a religion.

[MariaThinks]

63. that is done by people who justify terrorist attacks.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

69. Nobody I know does that. Care to point out who justifies terror?

I know of our POTUS that seemingly justifies hellfire missile strikes.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/nov/24/-sp-us-drone-strikes-kill-1147

[MariaThinks]

71. how about this attempt to equate islamic terrorist attacks today to Christianity 100s of years ago?

"You could ask the same about Christianity in its darker hours. A-holes exist in every religion. "

]

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

74. Nowhere did I justify it, but I did relate it.

But some poor slobs can't see the forest for the trees.

[MariaThinks]

75. yeah that's how i feel - how is rating not equating?

I didn't add (I just did the opposite of subtract).

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

76. Just try to see the forest for the trees my poor dear.

[MariaThinks]

78. i am - the litterd innocent bodies killed by islamists

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

79. Oh, lots if isms are guilty if that. How many did PNAC kill

for their god Mammon?

[MariaThinks]

80. there you go again - trying to distract from the issue today.

have a good evening

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

81. There's no distraction, Maria...if you stopped to think

about it.

[Coventina]

19. The poor dears couldn't help themselves. US foreign policy made them do it!!!

Mongsowe U Chak, I hope that you have achieved moksha.

[MisterP]

20. Sri Lanka, too: the LTTE took advantage of the fact that they can't defend themselves (graphic)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aranthalawa_Massacre

[SunSeeker]

25. I'm sure the Bangladesh police will get right on it.

[Jesus Malverde]

27. There are hardly any buddhists left in India it's birthplace.

Wiped out by militant islamists and Hindu's.

[marble falls]

36. A lot of this murderous intolerance going around:

U.N.: Dozens of Muslims massacred by Buddhists in Burma


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/un-dozens-of-rohingya-muslims-massacred-by-buddhists-in-rakhine-burma/

YANGON, Burma -- The United Nations has confirmed that at least 48 Muslims appear to have been killed when Buddhist mobs attacked a village in an isolated corner of western Burma, a massacre that has been the vehemently denied by the government since it was first reported by The Associated Press just over a week ago.

Presidential spokesman Ye Htut said he "strongly objects" to the U.N. claims and that the facts and figures were "totally wrong."

Burma, a predominantly Buddhist nation of 60 million people which is also known as Myanmar, has been grappling with sectarian violence since June 2012.

The incident in Du Chee Yar Tan, a village in northern Rakhine state, appears to be the deadliest in a year, and would bring the total number of mostly Muslims killed in violence nationwide to more than 280. Another 250,000 people have fled their homes.


Northern Rakhine - home to 80 percent of the country's 1 million long-persecuted Muslim Rohingya population - is off-limits to foreign journalists and humanitarian aid workers have limited access, adding to the difficulties of confirming details about the violence. Attacks began Jan. 9 and peaked in the early hours of Jan. 14, according to residents.

Buddhist Rakhine mobs, seeking retaliation for the abduction and killing of a police officer by Rohingya villagers, entered under the cloak of darkness with knives, sticks and guns and went on a killing spree, residents in the area told the AP on condition of anonymity because they feared reprisals. Many of the victims were women and children, hacked to death by the mobs, they said.

<snip>

[marble falls]

40. Almost forgot:

Three Muslim students killed at North Carolina campus
Police charge suspect after three Muslim Americans are shot to death at University of North Carolina campus.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/02/students-murdered-university-north-carolina-campus-150211093231033.html

Friends and family, and online community condemning the murder, shared victims' photos following the incident [Facebook]

Three American students have been shot to death at a residential complex of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and a suspect has been arrested over the incident, according to local police.

Chapel Hill police told local news outlets that Craig Stephen Hicks, 46, was arrested and charged with killing the three Muslim students.

Hicks made a brief court appearance on Wednesday morning, saying he understood the charges, according to the Associated Press. His probable cause hearing was set for March 4 and he is being held without bond.

In a statement posted online, Chapel Hill police said that "preliminary investigation indicates that the crime was motivated by an ongoing neighbour dispute over parking."

"We understand the concerns about the possibility that this was hate-motivated and we will exhaust every lead to determine if that is the case," the statement said quoting Police Chief Chris Blue.

Hicks turned himself in after the shooting on Tuesday in Chapel Hill, just outside the campus of the University of North Carolina, AFP news agency reported.

Police officers responded to a report of shooting at around 5:15pm on Tuesday, and found three people who were pronounced dead at the scene.

The police website released a statement confirming the three deaths and saying the department is "questioning a person of interest in the crime and has reason to believe that there is no ongoing threat to the public".

<snip>

or

Another Muslim Is Killed in America. Anyone Care?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/03/11/another-muslim-is-killed-in-america-anyone-care.html

After surviving years of war in Iraq, Ahmed al-Jumaili was gunned down after less than a month in Dallas.

“You are dead. We are going to kill you.”

“The North Carolina shootings were just the beginning.”

“You are not Americans, don't fly our flag.”

These are just some of the despicable comments directed at American Muslims in the Dallas-Forth Worth area in the last two months. The first two statements were shared with me by Alia Salem, the executive Director of the Dallas-Fort Worth chapter of the Council on American Islamic Relations. The death threat “You are dead...” was chillingly made to her on the phone just a few weeks ago. The second remark was directed at another in the community, referencing the recent killing of three Muslim American college students in North Carolina.

The third comment was yelled at Muslim Americans attending a local conference in mid January that ironically had been organized by the local Muslim community to counter extremism and hate.

I don't mention these comments in the hope of eliciting sympathy. I mention them to give you a sense of the anti-Muslim climate down there so that you understand why the local Muslim community believes that the murder of a Muslim man in Dallas on March 5, 2015 was a hate crime.

That brings us to the story of that Ahmed al-Jumaili. His wife, Zahara, had come to the United States from Iraq about a year ago. Ahmed remained in Iraq to save up more money while working as an Internet technician before starting his new life in America with his bride of a little over a year.

With his wife urging him to move to America so they could be together – and because she believed it was safer than Iraq- Ahmed immigrated to Dallas one month ago. They were finally together in the land of opportunity.

The couple lived in a small apartment complex in the northeast section of Dallas that was home to many Muslim immigrants. It was the start of a life in a new world that still offered the comfort of being with others who shared their old world ways.
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On the evening of March 5, 2015, it began to snow in Dallas. And not just a little, but three and half inches, making it the most snow that had fallen in the area since 1942.

I’m sure the uncommonly large snowfall piqued the interest of many in Dallas. But it especially intrigued a man who had just moved here from the Middle East.

So there was Ahmed, his wife who wears a hijab, and her brother standing outside their apartment complex in the parking lot taking photos of the glistening snow. And while standing there admiring the snow, perhaps the fist snowfall Ahmed had ever seen, a shot rang out that struck him. He would die a few hours later at Texas Presbyterian Hospital.

Ahmed al-Jumaili had survived the violence that had plagued Iraq for 36 years. But within one month of living in America, he was murdered in a parking lot while watching snow fall.

Now there’s no specific evidence yet that he was murdered because he was Muslim. Although it was an area known for a high Muslim population and his wife was wearing a hijab. But Alia Salem made it clear the local Muslim community believes it could be anti-Muslim incident. Even the Dallas police spokesperson, when asked it al-Jumaili had been targeted for his faith, told the Los Angeles Times, “that’s a possibility.”

What the police do know is that a grainy black-and-white surveillance video shows four people fleeing after the shooting carrying a rifle. But no arrests have been made as of yet.
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The fact that al-Jumaili, an Iraqi, was killed by a rifle, as opposed to up close with a handgun, makes me think of the film American Sniper. Now I’m not saying that the film had anything to do with this killing, but I can’t discount it given the backlash we saw against Muslims and Arabs on social media from people who saw the film. I’m talking remarks like, “Great fucking movie and now I really want to kill some fucking ragheads.”

But here’s what I will say: If a Muslim is “randomly” killed in America in this current climate of anti-Muslim bigotry, I’m assuming it's a hate crime until evidence has been produced to prove otherwise.

<snip>

[ck4829]

54. But Muslims have a hive mind, are homogenous, and immune to mental illness. Didn't you know that?

The massacre of 48 Muslims has also been mentioned here before, funny how there's no deeper discussion of policy or history there.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6097195

In fact, it looks like someone was trying to dismiss it.

[marble falls]

55. I forgot! the monolithic lockstepped "Them". I'll report for re-education!

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

57. Peopel see the word Muslim and they say terrorist.

Seemingly for a nation that talks about equality a lot I see a lot of bigotry to certain ethnic groups and religions.

[romanic]

52. I came too late.

The apologists have already come to talk about how Christians "did it too".

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

56. No, silly. You're right on time to explain why this thread

had to devolve into defending Chistianity whenwhat I wrote was...

3. You could ask the same about Christianity in its darker hours.

A-holes exist in every religion.

From there the conversation seemed to go off track: others comparing apples to oranges.

[romanic]

59. I'll be blunt.

Islamic extremists today are cancerous, much more than any other religious extremist in the present day. You can call me Islamphobic til you're blue in the face, I said it and I'll stand by my opinion.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

65. But you keep on living in the "but today" bubble.

The West is responsible for fucking with the Mid East for several generations now.

Terrorism is that blowback.

[romanic]

66. When all else fails...

blame the West.

[Fozzledick]

67. I think that's actually the starting place for this agenda.

The rest follows from there as convenient.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

68. When all else fails pretend the West is innocent

[Democat]

53. There are already posters saying "but Christians did it too 1000 years ago"

We just need someone to blame Bush, Obama, or Clinton.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

58. Do you live in a bubble? How nice.

[Democat]

64. I live in the year 2016 with you and all of the other posters

Except the ones who live 1000 years in the past.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

70. "Except the ones who live 1000 years in the past."

I guess you mean the crusaders...seeing how they are still at it.

[Bakkeno]

72. Savages

He didn't do anything to anyone.

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

77. I bought several shirts....

....that are as close to 'saffron' color as I could find.

They are more of a 'burnt orange' but the color is as close as I could get.

Apparently, in the part of the world this story takes place in, that is a color of religious freedom.

Certain religions hate that color.

I hope that when certain people see my shirts, they get violent impulses.

Really, really, really fucking violent impulses.

Bring it on.

[Blue_Tires]

83. Greenwald was unavailable for comment...

Since as far as he's concerned, no crimes have ever been committed by muslim fringe extremists anywhere...