Barbara Boxer on Nevada convention: 'I feared for my safety'

[riversedge]

Source: news4jax.com



Barbara Boxer on Nevada convention: 'I feared for my safety'
'It was a scary situation,' Boxer says
By CNN

Updated: 1:17 PM, May 18, 2016


WASHINGTON (CNN) - California Sen. Barbara Boxer said Wednesday that she felt threatened after outbursts and threats at the Nevada Democratic Convention from supporters of Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders over the weekend.

"I feared for my safety and I had a lot of security around me," she told CNN's Kate Bolduan on "At This Hour." "I've never had anything like this happen."

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"It was a scary situation," said Boxer, a Hillary Clinton supporter. "It was frightening. I was on the stage. People were six feet away from me. If I didn't have a lot of security, I don't know what would have happened."

Boxer said she expressed her concern to Sanders in a phone call Tuesday night. Sanders released a statement Tuesday to say that he does not support violent behavior from his supporters, but also sharply criticized the convention process from Nevada's Democratic party.

"He knows how I feel. He knows that I felt threatened. He knows that it was wrong," Boxer said. "Now we will see, but in my mind when he says he does not support any type of violence, I believe him. And he's got to make sure it doesn't happen. People will follow his lead."

Boxer wasn't the only Democratic senator to condemn Sanders' supporters behavior over the weekend. Virginia Sen. Tim Kaine slammed Sanders' statement in response to the outbursts.

"What he did yesterday was sort of say it's the party's fault," Kaine told CNN. "That deflection of responsibility is not leadership."........................




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It had to have been chilling and scary for Sen. Boxer. She trusts that Sanders will do the right thing and keep the violence away from the convention.


We will see.

[msongs]

1. bernies in it for himself. for 74 years he has been in it for himself. dont expect change now nt

[reformist2]

37. If ever a candidate was in it for herself, it's Hillary. She stands for nothing.

[tomm2thumbs]

64. Was there sniper fire? Did she have to run for cover with her head down?

She's learned well from the "Clinton School of Lying" Hillary lied about Bosnia. She's a liar.

Boxer obviously is parroting her teachers in the matter.

Hillary Lying "I have been a critic of NAFTA from the very beginning"

Bill Lying: "No, no, no, no... that's not what I said" disputing a recorded quote

[Thespian2]

69. Excellent!!

Was Boxer ever a strong Democrat? If she fears people expressing their anger at being screwed by the Nevada Democratic Party, then she doesn't care much for fairness...

[Jackie Wilson Said]

176. Was Boxer ever a strong Democrat? ? ? ?

So it is true, you folks dont know anything about the Democratic party.

[Thespian2]

193. Was she, ever? What is her voting record?

Having studied the Democratic party for 50 years or so, I know quite a bit about the corruption within the party...

[Jackie Wilson Said]

219. You have not studied well if you dont know what she has done.

But if you judge all other humans by Bernie's standard, you will be disappointed and other than Bernie you will never find someone to vote for.

[Thespian2]

220. Couldn't get an answer...

so I'll give you an answer...Boxer has long been a very strong liberal voice in the Senate...her daughter married HRC's brother (divorced)...stood strong against the Republicans in the Senate...

So, why did she "fear for her life" when she was surrounded by Secret Service and police?...If there was violence, why is there a video of her calmly leaving the building, blowing kisses?...Why was she even at the NEVADA convention? She lives in and represents California...

She is a surrogate for Her Royal Highness...nothing else needs said...

[Jackie Wilson Said]

221. So because she supports Clinton, what? Is she to be called names? Look, you sit home

on election day, you do that

[bvf]

158. Perfect. n/t

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

78. Your bein WAY too kind!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[bobthedrummer]

94. +1 Two Clintons. 41 Years. $3 Billion. Inside the Clinton Donor Network (WaPo Nov 2015)

"Both Clintons declined to be interviewed or comment for this article."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/clinton-money

[merrily]

103. Who are you in it for?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1916451

[azurnoir]

137. that's why he's a multi millaire now right?

oh wait that's not Bernie

[billhicks76]

191. You Are Such A Liar

Its so blatant. Hillary is and always has been in it for herself. Obama said as much in 2008. Go away. No one likes lies. The once in a lifetime selfless candidate comes along and you smear him. No wonder so many people hate Clinton and her campaign.

[yurbud]

222. if that was true, he would have gone corporate decades ago and made a shitload of money like Hillary

[leftofcool]

3. Did you just compare Barbara Boxer to Hitler??????????

Self delete this post now!

[riversedge]

34. WTF! They harassed, yelled at her and called her a b***h and you say she should be fearful!!

Grow up!!

[Hekate]

50. Do you know why we have a republic and not a direct democracy?

Because Jefferson and the rest feared the power of the mob. They feared the tyranny of the majority.

[Hekate]

61. Buh-bye Linton

[JackRiddler]

151. You've got Jefferson confused with Madison.

Jefferson was not at the Federalist convention and preferred not to support the constitution that was framed there in 1787.

Jefferson as a major slaveholder etc. was probably deluding himself, but he often wrote in favor of democracy and even rebellion as necessary renewals of freedom - to the point of blood-spilling.

Once he got to be president, of course, he fell more in line with the autocratic mode allowed by this constitution which he had not supported.

The anti-democrat you are thinking of is Madison, most likely. He was more forthright about his contempt for the people.

You want to identify with the federalists of 1787, who did not even want a bill of rights? Fine, I do not. But you should at least know the history.

[reACTIONary]

189. You are correct, but not entirely...,

.,. None of the founding fathers (maybe excepting Pain) esteamed and trusted democracy to the extent that we do. I think they respected it, and yet feared it at the same time.

[JimDandy]

119. Bernie Sanders Nevada headquarters were shot at and his staff's living quarters were ransacked.

1 guess as to whose supporters it probably was who were unhinged enough to commit such criminal and actual life threatening acts of violence to Bernie and his staffers. Real evidence. Real police reports. Not manufactured bullshit. I hope the perpetrators are found quickly and their identities revealed. Should be eye-opening.

Barbara Boxer encouraged the vocal interactions she received with her deliberately staged, camera perfect words to the crowd. Manipulation, corruption shenanigans... proper descriptors for all the disgusting acts and vomitous behavior of the Hillary Clinton Circus Act.

[itsrobert]

196. Shot at you say? The actual report says they found what "appears' or could be a bullet hole

Questions that deserves answers....

Where's the bullet?
No report of gunshots? Was a silencer used?

Was the hole there prior to that day, maybe weeks, months, or year before, and was just found because of a routine sweep by the secret service?

No witnesses? Where's the real evidence? One what "appears" to be a bullet hole was found.

This mystery hole was found in January. And it seems to be manufactured bullshit.

[JimDandy]

197. Isn't it lovely that actual evidence exists in order for you to question it.

Now, try generating questions about the evidence found at the Nevada Convention.

Oh, wait...

[itsrobert]

198. 58 Bernie Delegates in Nevada not properly registered Democrats before deadline

There's your evidence. They failed the credential check. And then Bernie people got mad because they couldn't overturn the voters.

[JimDandy]

199. Now, now. EVIDENCE, not theories.

Come on Robert, try harder.

[itsrobert]

200. Your bullet hole story has major holes in it

LOL

[JimDandy]

205. But there IS evidence that violence was actually perpetrated against Sanders

bullet hole, ransacked quarters, police reports etc.

I liked your hole pun though.

[itsrobert]

206. Police report is not evidence

it's a report. Do you have a copy of the police report?

A hole in a window is not evidence of violence.

[JimDandy]

208. At a convention where violent acts allegedly occurred, in fact, the word riot was frequently used

by the media, not a single arrest was made. Remarkable, because damage and arrests are usually the hallmarks of a riot. Police reports are generated after a riot. And yet, no police reports have been produced that memorialize such assertions of violence. Odd.

Police reports record events about a crime and as such, are evidence that enough gravitas existed for someone to generate one. Filing a false police report is a crime

I have no copy of police reports for either the gunshot at Sanders' headquarters nor for the ransacking of his staffs' living quarters. I imagine that they can be ordered for a small fee, as is usual in most jurisdictions.

After that bombshell from Sanders, though, I'd bet Hillary's camp and the media are already seeking them out. So we'll probably be bombarded with their contents soon, for free. Maybe you could pin your hopes on the possibility that the Sanders campaign filed a false police report, and you could expose them. It worked out so well for Capehart and Ralston (Uff da)!

[itsrobert]

209. Yet, no link to Hillary, her campaign, or Hillary supporters

The headquarters is located in a rundown lower middle class/poor area of Las Vegas. But you have a bullet hole and a police report to pin your hopes on that it's linked somehow to Hillary.

[JimDandy]

211. I am borrowing the logic of Hillary's camp: It is more likely than not, that

the supporters of the opposing campaign committed the violence.

[billhicks76]

192. You're Not Left Of Anything

Nice try going way out of your way to trick us into thinking that by naming yourself that. Ive noticed anyone with the name Democrat, liberal, or left in their name is actually quite the opposite.

[Hekate]

5. Alerted. I think you missed a far-right turn down the road.

[leftofcool]

13. Not comparing good Democrats to Hitler is something you obviously don't get!

[George II]

95. Well that one's gone. And I guess it didn't do much research into Barbara Boxer's background.

[riversedge]

174. I do not think it matters --the good work Boxter has done over the years--to many--If you

support Hillary, your name is mud.

[riversedge]

35. Comparing a respected US Senator to Hitler is not an analogy. Shame on YOU.

[leftofcool]

17. I think it is time for a MIRT alert!

[Hekate]

27. You planning on doxxing our members? That's the second personal reference you've made in this thread

I'm sure we've met before -- what was your name before you were asked to leave?

[Hekate]

63. Buh-bye Yolanda

[leftofcool]

28. None of them since I don't live in Florida.

And quite frankly, it's none of your damn business where I live. capish?

[Hekate]

48. Is that a threat "newbie"? Who were you the last time we met?

[riversedge]

56. are you accusing leftofcool of lying?

[Hekate]

33. If you know how to do, it please take care of it

[riversedge]

39. I think it misses its own Party!!

[La Lioness Priyanka]

8. ewww. some of you need help. like real professional help. nt

[La Lioness Priyanka]

24. excellent. thanks for asking.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

30. yes, in greenpoint, to be more precise.

it's nice to see random people keep tabs on my life. i'm so much more popular than even i estimate, and i estimate that i am pretty fucking popular.

[Hekate]

43. Picking up where Name Removed left off? Good show!

[riversedge]

68. whow. and there are two posts in

gen dis-p who are mocking Boxer!! what has DU become!

[Hekate]

71. This thread is absolutely vile

[La Lioness Priyanka]

46. no, because we are not from Bangladesh.

[world wide wally]

10. fucking rediculous bullshiit ^

[JI7]

12. comparing a jewish liberal senator to hitler ?

[leftofcool]

23. And a dumb one!

[jalan48]

4. Oh Please.

[RATM435]

7. Go home barbra boxer you're drunk.

[zappaman]

117. Pretty sure "barbra" was not drunk.

Do you have evidence?
Or just talking out your ass while smearing a good Democratic senator?

[Purveyor]

152. I think she had had a couple 'belts' myself... eom

[Thinkingabout]

161. A Sanders supporter said there was a bar set up for Sanders supporters, maybe they were drunk.

[bahrbearian]

163. Thats how it works in Vega's, The Casinos give out free drinks to steal your money.

The NVDEMS set up the bars to steal our Vote's, NV Bernie supporters didn't fall for that trick. They have seen it before.
Evidently Boxer thought they set the bars up for her .

[Thinkingabout]

164. This is not what Sanders supporter said, she appeared to have been there. Guess they fell for

the trick. Another trick they thought they could pull was having less delegates in the room and thought they could convince the chair they had the majority of the vote, doesn't work that way, the majority rules, they lost the vote.

[tomm2thumbs]

14. LOLz!!!

"If I didn't have a lot of security, I don't know what would have happened."

Then the shouting stopped. If she's afraid of a little shouting, she's not a leader we need in this dangerous world.

[scscholar]

32. She had a lot of security

What about the rest of the people there that were in danger? That's such a terrible attitude.

[tomm2thumbs]

38. shouting is not violence and she is baiting the news cycle with her statement

she knows California is in play and anything she can get into the news that might help her precious Hillary is fair game. Next she'll scrawl the letter 'B' into her face and call TMZ.

[appalachiablue]

125. Check, big stakes at play. Truth will prevail.

[catnhatnh]

18. Poking hornets nest with stick...

I wonder how mad these little bastards will...Oh FUCK-Holy Shit-God damn, God Damn.....

Next Day:

Those hornets scared me....

[pnwmom]

44. So you're comparing the thuggish supporters to angry hornets.

Yes, that sounds about right. That angry, and about as smart.

[disillusioned73]

58. That was funny..

[BunkieBandit]

175. Best analogy yet.

Simply put.

[Hekate]

20. My Senator doesn't look her age, but she is 75 years old. Bernie's supporters...

...were behaving in a threatening manner. They wanted her to feel afraid -- she got the message.

I'm shaking with anger at this moment. I have lost all respect for Sanders for not taking control of his own campaign.

[leftofcool]

31. I wouldn't go near a Sanders supporter. But I'm picky about the company I keep.

[frylock]

109. Yes, please keep your distance.

[Plucketeer]

172. BOO!

[McKim]

42. Lost All Respect for Hillary for Controlling her Paid Trolls!

I have lost all respect for Hillary for not controlling the nastiness of her paid trolls and surrogates!

[leftofcool]

45. Please link to a Hillary supporter who texted death threats to someone's child

Can't find one? I thought not.

[riversedge]

54. who are you accusing of being a paid troll??

[Hekate]

70. My check is late. They promised me a HillaryPhone too. I feel used. nt

What can ya do. At least I participated in getting Yolanda and Linton a ticket outta here.

[rbrnmw]

83. I got a Samsung Galaxy just so I could post on DU

Call Brock he sent mine

[Hekate]

87. Silly me -- I should have thought of that first thing!

Maybe the check will come today -- off to the mailbox now.

[hamsterjill]

113. Boxer has a long history of public service.

She deserves respect for that, whether someone agrees or disagrees with her.

From Wikepedia:

"In 1991, during the Anita Hill Senate hearings, where Hill accused U.S. Supreme Court nominee Clarence Thomas of sexual harassment, Boxer led a group of women House members to the Senate Judiciary Committee – demanding that the all-white, all-male Committee of Senators take Hill's charges seriously."



How soon they forget! Without the advances made in the past, the freedoms enjoyed in the present wouldn't be possible. Boxer has always been an advocate for women's rights.

She was right to have felt threatened in this instance, and it was not appropriate that she was made to feel that way.

[Smarmie Doofus]

22. "Watta story! Everything but the bloodhounds snappin' at her rear end."

--- Birdie, All About Eve.

[choie]

29. Ok you win today's Post of the Day!!

Anybody who appropriately quotes Thelma Ritter In "All About Eve" has my sincere admiration!

[sulphurdunn]

51. Don't forget the ice floes

she was jumping across to escape them.

[BeyondGeography]

65. Your candidate's going downhill fast

but you'll always have de witt.

[Enthusiast]

99. Now that is funny!

[McKim]

40. Oh Please, give Me a Break!

Well, Barbara, good job getting another day's press coverage for the Nevada DNC debacle! Oh someone said someone had thrown a chair, mercy what violence! You mean like violence in Iraq, Syria, and Libya!

[leftofcool]

49. If Bernie doesn't want bad news coverage then he should tell his supporters to calm down

[azurnoir]

53. you mean these guy weren't enough to make her feel safe? would she had felt safer if they

had been more engaging?

[SunSeeker]

120. That line wasn't there when Boxer was screamed at and called a c*#t; that's security at closing.

Security had to be called because Sanders supporters wouldn't leave, even though it was after midnight. The Sanders supporters' outrageous actions were all instigated by the Sanders campaign:

CNN has audio of Sanders Aide Inciting the Nevada Convention Chaos

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/17/politics/democrat-bernie-sanders-revolt/index.html

But new audio obtained by CNN shows a senior Sanders aide -- on the eve of the Nevada convention -- encouraging the senator's supporters try to "take over" the convention, change party rules and continue the "revolution" that Sanders has long campaigned on.
"You should not leave," Joan Kato, the national delegates director, told Sanders supporters in a meeting last week at the Rumor Boutique Hotel. "I'm going to repeat that, unless you are told by someone from the campaign ... that you can leave, you should not leave."

http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2016/5/17/1527511/-Sanders-issues-statement-about-Nevada-and-it-is-horrible

[azurnoir]

121. oh so it's all Sanders fault meme of the day but tell us if ya'll had actually won last night

by more than 0.5% in one state and lost resoundingly in the other would be still hearing about this?

Perhaps the voting public is sending a message

[SunSeeker]

124. All you offer is insult and deflection, like your candidate. nt

[azurnoir]

128. no insult or deflection it was a question

one you apparently are unable or unwilling to answer

[SunSeeker]

150. See post 144.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1455337

[SunSeeker]

144. We were hearing about this before the KY and OR results.

Your "question" ignores reality, like your candidate.

[lexington filly]

171. Winning by a nose or 6 lengths in the KY Derby state is all that's required

to neutralized the other runners and get the trophy and roses. Mathematically, Hillary at this point in the campaign doesn't need landslides or even 5% wins. She only needs to participate. Bernie said about the time of the Michigan (Indiana?) primary that he must greatly over-perform mathematically and win around 65% in each of the remaining states to have even a slim chance of winning the nomination. That didn't even approach his goal in Kentucky or Oregon last night. Whether we're for Bernie or Hillary, I think we Progressives have always been for Math and Science. Right?

My concern is whether Bernie wants the Iron Throne so badly, he'll burn the kingdoms to the ground rather than fight the revolution from common ground.

[azurnoir]

179. oooh are game of thrones references the new Hillary meme of the week? oh so with it and cool

young folks should luv it

[Ed Suspicious]

55. Grow up, instigator, Boxer.

[SunSeeker]

188. How did Barbara Boxer "instigate" being called a c*#t?

It is not Barbara Boxer who needs to grow up.

[phazed0]

59. Bullshit, there was no violence..

And if shouting makes you feel uneasy, you don't call the election because of your feelings... it's un-Democratic.

[gordianot]

60. Someone explain why was she present?

I do not understand.

[disillusioned73]

62. I've been asking...

have yet to get an answer... must have something to do with the upcoming California primary.. hmmm

[Hekate]

67. Because she is the DEMOCRATIC Senator from neighboring California at a DEMOCRATIC convention....

....speaking on behalf on one of the DEMOCRATIC candidates.

Right here in my own County we have an opening for a seat in the US House due to our DEMOCRATIC Congresswoman's retirement. A whole lot of people are running for the vacancy and the GOP is pouring in money to try to take it. As a consequence, the DEMOCRATIC candidate is calling in the chips and at least one DEMOCRATIC House member from another state is coming by next week to give a speech at a fundraiser on his behalf.

DEMOCRATS stick together.

I hope you understand now.

[gordianot]

74. Guess you told me.

[Hekate]

76. Yelling and throwing things is not violence, at least we know that now.

See me throwing my computer --->

[gordianot]

92. I worked a sound board at a Union Convention in College.

The crowd was becoming unruly while on the podium they were talking over an open mike. I went down to the usher and told him I could cut the mike with a gesture. In about 3 minutes the head of the delegation sent word that is what he wanted. I got a tip at the end of the convention. From what I have seen of the coverage it was very similar definitely much louder and angry at the Union convention. Problems can be avoided.

[frylock]

112. Somebody threw something?

Have there been arrests, or, I don't know.. actual EVIDENCE that things were thrown?

[w4rma]

185. You're repeating another Clintonite smear/lie. Noone threw anything.

If you heard in the mainstream press that Bernie supporters were violent at the Nevada state Democratic convention, you were lied to.

No chairs were thrown. There were no assaults or threats. This video shows what REALLY happened.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1017&pid=373008

[riversedge]

75. And Nina Turner spoike in behalf of Sen. Sanders.

[Hekate]

79. But that's okay because ... the burn.

[riversedge]

72. Sen Boxer stood in to represent Hillary and Nina Turner stood in to represent Sanders since

neither of them were present. Nothing wrong with inviting either of them.

[Ikonoklast]

108. Boxer is related through marriage to the Clintons.

In 1994, Boxer's daughter Nicole married Tony Rodham, the brother of then-First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton. The Rose Garden ceremony, in which teenage First Daughter Chelsea Clinton served as a bridesmaid, was the first White House wedding in 23 years.

The 1% like to keep things among themselves.

[billhicks76]

194. Thanks...Clintonites Dont Get It

They are so out of touch. The masses are angry. They dont care about excuses from those in their ivory towers. They want justice and arent waiting around anymore. Clintonites are an embarrassment to our country. They belong with Jeb Bush...Hilary's close friend.

[boomer55]

66. yeah right.....

[silvershadow]

73. Oh for shit's sake...Really? With all those policeman there in a line? She is being

a drama queen, for purely partisan purposes. I just lost a ton of respect for Boxer. A ton. She is actually complicit now.

[riversedge]

77. the local police were called in at the end of the night. Boxer spoke on behalf of Hillary

earlier in the day. And Nina Turner spoke on behalf of Sanders earlier in the day.

[silvershadow]

82. Well I guess she really doesn't have a comprehension about how much people value

*actual democracy and the process.

[riversedge]

84. bye

[silvershadow]

89. Toodles! Hope that strategy works out for you. nt

[leftofcool]

155. She values morals as in not making death threats to kids.

Unlike some Bernie supporters. Sheesh!

[silvershadow]

156. You verbiage is just more trolling and gas lighting. nt

[zeemike]

118. She is trying to deflect from the debacle that was the convention.

Make it about this instead of that.

[silvershadow]

130. per the plan. nt

[Algernon Moncrieff]

80. "That deflection of responsibility is not leadership"

[pmorlan1]

81. That did it for me

I watched her in that video talk down to people in the room and deliberately add fuel to the fire. To now come out and say this causes me to lose a lot of respect for her. I'm sure I'm not the only one. I hope it's worth it for her.

[riversedge]

88. Bad optics for Bernie to be hitting on a respected CA Senator with the primary coming up

[silvershadow]

91. Which is why she was placed there at that convention where the dirty work was going down. nt

[riversedge]

97. LOL. Your paranoia is

[silvershadow]

105. Not a bit. Your use of verbiage is just part of the gas lighting going on. nt

[pmorlan1]

93. Which is why this was cooked up

in the first place hence why I have lost respect for Barbara. Honesty and integrity are very important to me in the political leaders I support. We just found out one of them has clay feet and it's not Bernie.

[riversedge]

213. If you think Sen Boxer has clay feet, you are barking up the wrong tree.

[pmorlan1]

215. Opinion

You are entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine.

[frylock]

114. Hitting on a respected CA Senator ?

Hunh?

[ChiciB1]

100. Well, She Probably Doesn't Care Anymore...

She's retiring and is able to kick the can down the road! Or kick some of us along with the can!

[zalinda]

131. She's probably angling for some of that Clinton

cash in her retirement. Can't be too rich, you know.

Z

[ChiciB1]

134. Oh Yeah, I'm Sure They've Had A Few Little Chats...

Not like they won't be strangers in the future ya know.

[pmorlan1]

147. I'm sure you are correct

It's just sad.

[jtuck004]

85. We have about 150 million kids and adults who live in fear for their safety every day, amidst

poverty, crappy jobs, and a government that seems to care more about making bank$ter/jihadists whole than they do the people who do the work.

Before the financial crisis there were only 26.3 million people on food stamps.



When you make it safe for them, it will be safe for you.

[ChiciB1]

98. You Nailed It! n/t

[beastie boy]

102. This is why we need to add one more to live in fear, right?

How does one excuse the other?

I can't believe how many people claiming to be progressives are condoning threats of violence on this board!

Anyone threatening anyone else is a lowlife. No excuses.

Anyone excusing a lowlife is a lowlife.

Period. No excuses.

[zalinda]

133. No one threatened any one

Liars will lie.

[beastie boy]

146. Really?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-nevada-dem-chair_us_573b4b8de4b0aee7b8e7dfa2

http://www.news4jax.com/news/politics/barbara-boxer-on-nevada-convention-i-feared-for-my-safety

They were exchanging compliments, right?

[zalinda]

178. You didn't see this?

The Faux Fracas in Nevada: How a Reporter Manufactured a Riot

May 18, 2016
The Faux Fracas in Nevada: How a Reporter Manufactured a Riot

by Doug Johnson Hatlem

Jon Ralston, the dean of political reporting in Nevada, has spread nothing less than a pack of lies about what went down at the state’s Democratic convention on Saturday. And the fact averse oligarchic national media has run completely riot with the provable falsehoods. No chairs were thrown at the convention Saturday. No death threats were made against the chair of the convention Roberta Lange. And Bernie Sanders delegates were not simply mad because their louder shouting was ignored.

Ralston has been the culprit behind each of these falsehoods; and the New York Times, CNN, MSNBC, and a dizzying array of other outlets have swallowed them whole then regurgitated them for their much more massive audiences.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/05/18/the-faux-fracas-in-nevada-how-a-reporters-pack-of-lies-ran-riot-in-the-fact-averse-media/


You've been had.

Z

[beastie boy]

190. What's Ralston have to do with Barbara Boxer feeling threatened?

Boxer, who stood on that stage, is telling me she felt threatened.

You, who thinks Boxer wasn't threatened, tell me no one was threatened.

Whose word should I take? Yours or hers?

Lange received threatening messages, which are well documented. You tell me no one was threatened.

What should I believe, my eyes or you (who are apparently blind)?

[zalinda]

207. Your eyes, or your ears?

Apparently you can seem to use the correct organ to make a good decision. But wait, let's hear from someone who was on the stage with Boxer.

You'll be able to see and hear, with whichever organ YOU think is appropriate.

Z

[beastie boy]

216. Stop being so ridiculous!

if you tell me you feel threatened, and someone you don't know tells me no, you don't feel threatened, you are saying that the guy standing next to you knows better than you and I should ignore you and listen to him.

Face it, that's just crazy.

Knowing your propensity to come up with increasingly ridiculous responses, I will spare you the embarrassment of continuing this pointless exchange. You are welcome to have the last word. I am sure it will speak for itself

[tom_kelly]

136. You've only been a member for 2 months and

you have 900+ posts. You've been working very, very hard. Make sure your boss is aware of your toil.

[beastie boy]

142. Your response is beyond pathetic.

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.
— ABRAHAM LINCOLN.

[tom_kelly]

145. Thanks Mac

[jwirr]

86. She sounds like she is giving a reason why she just shot

someone who was unarmed.

She is also a liar and I have lost a lot of respect for her.

[beastie boy]

104. What a coincidence! I just lost all respect for those who condone and excuse violence!

[leftofcool]

157. No she is not a liar

And she doesn't make death threats to children.

[Sunlei]

90. People were just shouting not violent, here's a video. Mrs. Boxer is probably not used to that.

Next time on stage Mrs. Boxer, have some patience, wait a bit to start talking for people to settle down.

[elljay]

122. Nonpointbin watching what actually happened.

They don't need to watch the video. It interferes with what they want to believe. If there actually was violence, it should be thoroughly condemned (I have yet to see a single video that shows a violent act and would like to see one of it exists). If there is video proof that the convention chair intentionally misrepresented voice votes to favor a certain candidate, then that should be thoroughly condemned. (This video actually does exist).

[SunSeeker]

141. Did you even watch that video? It actually proves Boxers point.

First, it is only a 9 minute snippet of a convention that lasted over 12 hours, and it does not even include the time when Boxer was trying to speak. But it does include plenty of revealing things, even though it is narrated by a badly misinformed Sanders supporter (she incorrectly claims Sanders won NV when in fact Hillary won NV by over 5 percentage points).

At 5:01, that Sanders supporter narrator worriedly scans to men starting an altercation and says, "Oh, we're going to have a fight...not good...I'm going to sit here and hope nobody gets thrown on top of me...yes, it is a bloodbath..."

[ChiciB1]

96. Kinda Saw A HUGE Line Of TROOPERS Standing In Front

of where the stage was. The REAL FEAR is from too many DEMOCRATS who've been bought by too many CORPORATISTS. And yes, I know she's retiring. What's even worse is that so many of us "thought" SHE was one of the more moderate Democrats who wasn't a DLC/Third Way Democrat.

As my father used to say... "That's what you get for thinking!"

[riversedge]

101. The holel security called them when thye determined the scene -at the end of night

was getting out of hand and thought they could no longer handle the crowd. Shame on the Sanders supporters who caused this to happen.

[frylock]

115. Hey, has the hotel security released footage of the riot yet?

[riversedge]

173. I am sure you can contact them and ask.

[frylock]

180. I'm sure I could, but I'm asking you.

You're making these claims without any proof whatsoever.

[riversedge]

181. LOL #Bernielostme

[frylock]

183. LOL #Hunh?

[beachbumbob]

106. The true angry socialist has been revealed.....sanders has no control

Over the mob he has created....and perhaps less caring for what it does. His weakness as a leader can't be denied....his ego usurps the wellbeing of America....His campaign is over but the destruction is not

[Fuddnik]

127. Funniest post of the day!

Do you only post during election cycles?

[zalinda]

138. Does Wendell Pierce ring a bell?

He was actually arrested. And now he is trying to say that these 3 Bernie supporters grabbed him and tried to pull him into THEIR room, which makes absolutely no sense. I'm starting to think that Hillary supporters couldn't tell the truth, even when caught in the act.

Z

[riversedge]

187. Charges: Bernie Sanders supporter threatened to cut out Dem.Seattle congressman’s tongue

This man was actually arrested and charged!!


Charges: Bernie Sanders supporter threatened to cut out Seattle congressman’s tongue

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/crime/article/Threatened-Rep-Jim-McDermott-armed-himself-7381914.php



Threatened, Rep. Jim McDermott armed himself – with a shovel
Charges: Bernie Sanders supporter threatened to cut out Seattle congressman’s tongue

BY LEVI PULKKINEN, SEATTLEPI.COM Updated 1:36 pm, Thursday, April 28, 2016



Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Seattle, pictured in a file photo. Photo: Alex Wong, Getty Images / 2013 Getty Images

Photo: Alex Wong, Getty Images
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Seattle police respond to reports of threats at Rep. Jim McDermott's Seattle office on April 22, 2016.
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Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Seattle, pictured in a file photo.

A Seattle man accused of threatening to cut out U.S. Rep. Jim McDermott’s tongue now faces felony charges.

King County prosecutors claim Jasper K. Bell made the threat because he was upset that McDermott, D-Seattle, was supporting Hilary Clinton for president. Currently jailed, Bell, 27, has been charged with intimidating a public servant and telephone harassment.

Bell had been fixated on McDermott for some time before the April 22 incident that saw him charged, Senior Deputy Prosecutor Susan Storey said in court paper. Bell is alleged to have made threatening calls to McDermott before arriving at his Seattle office that day.

“In one phone call he demanded the congressman’s home address and threatened to cut his tongue out,” Storey said in charging papers. “In another call he stated that the congressman would not be safe, even after he retires.”

McDermott, a long-serving liberal, announced in January that he would be retiring after 14 terms in Congress. A competitive primary contest is underway for the seat representing Washington’s deep-blue 7th District.

Witnesses at McDermott’s downtown Seattle office told police Bell was yelling and spitting, and banging his fists against the office windows. He was arrested hours after that 1 p.m. incident..................

[frylock]

107. Hyperbole much, Barbara?

I used to respect this woman.

[TIME TO PANIC]

110. What a load of shit!

The Democratic establishment wants to paint Sanders' supporters as violent. It will give them an excuse to have the riot squad crack skulls at the National Convention in Philly.

[laundry_queen]

212. Bingo. nt

[FairWinds]

111. I've respected Sen Boxer for many years . .

and will continue to do so.

But the HRC camp has also got to take some ownership of what happened.

[99th_Monkey]

116. The Dem/Dino Establishment can't help themselves from misrepresenting reality

to trash Sanders and his supporters on the most specious of grounds.

Did they really expect a calm evening of convivial orderly proceedings? Riiight. They
knew damn well what they were doing, and it was entirely premeditated: it's called
a "set up", not unlike the Dean Scream and the Dukakis tank fiascos ...

For the DWS/HRC/DNC cabal, abusing their authority to put the "fix" in, to rig the
process in every conceivable way that always favors Clinton. is a three-fer ...

1) by hook or by crook, they pick up even more votes and/or delegates,
2) they use their obvious slight-of-hand to excessively provoke Bernie supporters enough
to gin-up some kind of chaos, like happened in NV,
3) then they get to distract from the issues by whining & playing victims, saying they are
"scared of those mean Bernie supporters"

[mudstump]

123. Well...don't take part in shenanigans and you will be just fine.

Why were you there Ms. Boxer? Isn't California your state? Did the Hillary camp send you there as their surrogate to make sure the fix was in?

[SunSeeker]

154. Why was Nina Turner there? Isn't her state Ohio?

Are you suggesting that speakers at this convention had to be from Nevada?

[bjo59]

126. Good old Barbara's on a roll now, isn't she? Just making it up as she goes along.

[modestybl]

129. The third round of HRC campaign lies: Sanders supporters are violent!

First it was Sanders supporters are sexist

Then it was Sanders supporters are racist.

Straight from the Karl Rove playbook, the part of our body politic least into violence, racism and misogyny are smeared by HRC's henchmen.

The NY Dems basically spit in the eyes of Sanders supporters, and the delegates present were upset. But there was no violence, a lie that HRC surrogates have been spreading all over MSM for the last few days.

These aren't the actions of a campaign confident in their candidate.

[leftofcool]

159. Whose supporters make death threats to Roberta's grandchild?

[modestybl]

162. What I read seemed like Free Republic or David Brock trolls...

... these are presented as evidence when we know that David Brock's minions have put child porn on prominent Sanders FB pages (one of his idiot boys bragged about it on his FB page), causing them to be down for several hours the night before several primaries. David Brock of Anita Hill smearing fame and his "Correct the Record" have been doing HRC's dirty work for months.

These are not the comments of anyone on the Sanders campaign, and Sanders unambiguously condemned the threats. But he stood up for his supporters being maligned by the Clinton camp.

[FighttheFuture]

132. It seems that while HRC may win the nom, that's not enough. They want to totally ban Bernie

and his supporters from the contravention and any voice in the "Democratic" party, or the hollow shell it has become.

She and her trolls will doom themselves, and this country, with their petty-ante bullshit tactics. It's sad, really.

[StevieM]

140. I fully expect that Bernie will speak in prime time at the convention and will use the opportunity

to unite the party.

[FighttheFuture]

168. I fully expect the Corporatist "dems" will do all they can to supress Bernie's influence and

exposure; as they have been doing.

[closeupready]

135. I guess she's decided no lie is too offensive to destroy her street cred

with liberals, but as far as I'm concerned, I would file her in the same bin I put Dianne Feinstein.

[TRoN33]

139. This very same woman who owns...

Stock in dozens of war machine companies who manufactures the bombs, bullets, missiles, torpedos, and hi-tech weaponary. These weapons proceed ahead on killing innocent people around the world and in America and cause the loss of the sense of security of innocents.

Barbara Boxer is a hypocrite.

I wouldn't be surprised if this comment is flagged by pro-Hillary crowd.

[polly7]

143. That is disgusting.

It all gets a bit easier to understand by the day.

[SunSeeker]

148. Anyone with a 401k has stock in such companies. It's your candidate that supports the MIC.

Sanders supports the MIC crown jewel, the trillion dollar deathtrap, the F-35.http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/24583-bernie-sanders-doubles-down-on-f-35-support-days-after-runway-explosion

Here's how the Daily Beast portrays him:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/09/bernie-sanders-loves-this-1-trillion-war-machine.html

[closeupready]

149. Olivia de Havilland in "Lady In A Cage" is a film I watched recently

on Turner Classics - the 'lady' is a super-rich, Boxer-aged Californian woman whose holdings in munitions-enterprises brings her some cognitive dissonance, but not enough that she's willing to forgo keeping her wine cellar fully stocked - she dismisses those worries with a shrug, a giggle and a wave of her hand. In hindsight, the story MUST have been intended as social criticism, but who knows.

Anyway, the parallels with the film and this silliness are numerous (not the film's plot, rather the setting and characters).

[leftofcool]

160. No Hillary supporter cares what you think. No need to flag.

[AgerolanAmerican]

153. Maybe taunting a crowd of people who just got f-ed over ain't such a smart idea

[emsimon33]

165. Bernie supporters are independent in their thinking. This is a revolution. It's not about Bernie!

It doesn't matter what Bernie says. It is not about Bernie. It is about his policies, about returning the Democratic Party to the people and not the .001%, Wall Street, and psychopathic corporations.

This primary season unmasked the Party for what it has become and revealed how rigged our election system is.

The result of 35 years of policies that rob from the 98% and give to the rich and powerful, no matter who is the president or what party is in Congress, has given birth to this revolution. And, despite what the Republicans and Hillary would have you believe about incremental change, change comes when we reach the tipping point and all hell breaks loose. We have reached the tipping point and the bear is NOT going to return to hibernating.

I am disgusted with Barbara Boxer, with the Democratic Party which I have actively served long before I could even register to vote, and with the compliant and complicit state Democratic Parties. I suspect if Hillary is the nominee, the political affiliation of "independent" will be become even larger as the largest political affiliation and the Republicans will be a bigger Party than the un-Democratic Party.

This breaks my heart, but too few seem to remember that so many issues that is their motivation for voting for Hillary --abortion, women's right, LBGTQ rights [although she came late to this position], etc.,, ,but not the flip-flop ones or the ones she is adopting from Bernie for expediency--were not those of the Republican Party until the 80s when the Republicans went after the right-wing "Christians." However, most of Hillary's bedrock beliefs were those of the Republican Party back then.

The other problem is that most Democratic voters are not Republicans (we did pick up a lot when the Republican Party became the clown car--but most Democrats aren't). This is a real problem for the Democratic Party as it shape shifts into the Republican Party of pre-80s. The liberal mind, for example, can hold two conflicting thoughts at the same time. It is not easily controlled by fear. It is more logical and fact-based, etc.

We have seen first-hand, in part thanks to the Internet [which will become a tool of corporations once Hillary's TPP is in place] and social media, the suppression of Bernie voters, the restructuring rules to favor Hillary, etc. It is not that Hillary "wins" the nomination, it is how she and the DNC rigged the system to do so. It is their arrogance and that of their paid puppets in the media and their smug surrogates that we will be rioting against in Philly. It is because we ARE Democrats that we do not want to see our Party become a pale ghost of the Republican Party.

My heart goes out to the Republicans who have joined the Democratic Party because their Party went Looney Tunes, but please do not destroy our Party by remaking into your former one.

This is not 2008 when Obama dissolved and dismissed the grassroots once he used them to get elected. This is not about Bernie, Barbara Boxer! It is about the people, the common good.

So, no, we will not stay home in July. This country was birthed on civil disobedience and we will use civil disobedience to save it.

[snappyturtle]

170. +1 Well said. nt

[snappyturtle]

166. Hey Sen. Boxer what you are so fearful of is what the rest of us call

the real world. Better scoot back to your safe congressional enclave in the Beltway.

[nc4bo]

167. Dearest Bar.ba.ra.

C&P from a previous post...

So many delicate flowers in the least likely of places is absolutely terrifying.

These folks are responsible for making life changing decisions that effect the health and welfare of individual citizens and they decide what the effect this country's actions (or inaction) have upon the world's population. These folks' decisions send our people to fight for wars created to appease the 1%ers not our country's safety.

Spare me terrified and distressed noblewoman and nobleman bullshit.

People boo.

People also do other stupid shit but until you have identified these people or have someone arrested for threatening someone, don't you dare find fault in our inability to believe your gospel.

[Odin2005]

169. Hyperbolic nonsense.

[LiberalLovinLug]

177. Its another clue that even Boxer now is so ensconsed in the Washington bubble

that she doesn't have any idea of how a huge part of the Dem base feels left behind. Especially when they feel cheated and lied to in the primary process.

To just mock them and sneer and condescend their rightful anger is appalling. To pretend she felt threatened is beyond the pale.

She should apologize for her behavior.

[scottie55]

210. Absolutely Boxer Should Apologize In Person To Bernie

She was simply part of the ratfukery today.

Zero violence Barbara.

Just tell the truth.

Like that is gonna happen.

[YOHABLO]

184. Here's what I think about Boxer's remarks:

Hyperbole
Definition:
A hyperbole is a literary device wherein the author uses specific words and phrases that exaggerate and overemphasize the basic crux of the statement in order to produce a grander, more noticeable effect.

[Dont call me Shirley]

186. She's a Barbie girl in a Barbie world.

[truebrit71]

195. Oh bullshit..

You threw your lot in with HRC and because you're leaving you've got no skin in the game....

[JDPriestly]

201. Barbara Boxer should have allowed the speaker who was scheduled to speak at that time,

Nina Turner to speak and not pushed her way in.

[still_one]

202. You didn't deserve that Senator Boxer. You have been terrific progressive Senator,

and I am proud to say I have voted for you every time

[.99center]

203. Why would anyone that feared for their safety start yelling "Hillary Hillary!"

And "Boo yourselves out of the election" Go watch the video, does Boxer look like someone who "fears for her safety" or does she look and sound like an agitator? Keep destroying you party by labeling Democratic supporters as violent, the only thing it's doing is helping Trump and republicans, for your short sighted goal of getting Bernie out.

[Buddyblazon]

204. She feared for her safety...

So she went out and trolled the crowd.

Seems like a reasonable response.

[Nihil]

214. "If I didn't have a lot of security, I don't know what would have happened."

> "I had a lot of security around me"
> "It was frightening. I was on the stage. People were six feet away from me.
> If I didn't have a lot of security, I don't know what would have happened."

She admits that she was on a stage when the protesters weren't.
She admits that the protesters were six feet away from her.
She admits that she had a lot of security.

Why was she "frightened"?

> "I've never had anything like this happen."

She's never been outside of her little bubble before and been as close as
six feet (plus a stage of elevation) to people who aren't fauning over her.

Yet another "Drama Queen for Hillary" ...

[sendero]

217. If you conflate what "Bernie's supporters" do...

... ( and keep in mind we have no idea who these people are and what they support but that is moot ) with Sanders himself you are a fucking moron.

[PassingFair]

218. People tend to get riled up...

when democracy is subverted by dirty tricks.

[yurbud]

223. I lost respect for Boxer during this exchange with Amy Goodman about ISIS:

I had a pretty high opinion of her until this.

Amy asked a pretty straight-forward question and Boxer refused to even acknowledge the facts Amy was referring to, then misstated what Amy had said.

Ending our and our allies overt and covert support for terrorist groups would be a hell of a lot easier, cheaper, AND more effective than starting more wars, but supposedly lefty peacenik Boxer acted like Amy Goodman had suggested firebombing Disneyland.

AMY GOODMAN: But isn’t standing up to that perhaps looking behind that—for example, Saudi Arabia and the U.S. support of Saudi Arabia?

SEN. BARBARA BOXER: Well, look, if you won’t be—you and I just disagree, so why do we cut it off? It seems to me that you don’t see any reason ever to confront people who are uncivilized, who don’t care one stitch about your life or mine, who would just as soon cut off your head as say "good morning."

AMY GOODMAN: No, but what about cutting off their support?

SEN. BARBARA BOXER: And let me—you’re asking me a question. And I don’t support them. As a matter of fact, I already voted to give the president authority to go after them. So why don’t we leave it at that? And as far as trying to find out the root causes of why they are the way you are, I’ll leave that to you. I’m a senator. My people are threatened, and I’m going to take action. War is the last resort, never a first resort. I don’t support going to war and sending combat troops. I support President Obama’s plan, which is not to do that, but to make sure that we can help people fight against this terror group, which is so frightening and so frightening to humankind. Thank you so much.

http://www.democracynow.org/2015/1/28/sen_barbara_boxer_on_campus_rape