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tabasco

(22,974 posts)
Sat May 21, 2016, 11:58 AM May 2016

Texas man shoots, kills 3-year-old stepson as boy jumped on bed

Source: Syracuse.com

A Texas man shot and killed his 3-year-old stepson this week while trying to stop the boy from jumping on a bed, according to the Dallas Morning News. George Coty Wayman, 18, of Bellevue, was charged with capital murder and criminal trespass.

Police were called Tuesday to a trailer in an area about 80 miles northwest of Fort Worth, the News said.

Witnesses first told police that the boy, Dominic Tra'Juan Castro, was jumping on the bed and accidentally caused a gun to fire, according to the News. Wayman was charged after evidence didn't match witness statements.

Witnesses later admitted that Wayman pointed the gun at the boy and told him that he'd shoot him if he didn't stop jumping on the bed, according to the Washington Post.

Read more: http://www.syracuse.com/us-news/index.ssf/2016/05/3_year_old_stepson_shot.html



Thank goodness the family had a gun to keep them safe!
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Texas man shoots, kills 3-year-old stepson as boy jumped on bed (Original Post) tabasco May 2016 OP
If only the 3 year had a gun Geronimoe May 2016 #1
some of the comments after the article are insane. niyad May 2016 #2
You're right! PJMcK May 2016 #18
I nearly choked when I saw that one! niyad May 2016 #19
Let me guess: Blue_Tires May 2016 #82
Psycho man Benitos May 2016 #3
Holy cow Hayduke Bomgarte May 2016 #4
Dude has "dead eyes" BuelahWitch May 2016 #8
I know whatcha mean Hayduke Bomgarte May 2016 #16
WHAT? Akicita May 2016 #5
Most experts don't recommend this for ages under five jberryhill May 2016 #6
Good to know ejbr May 2016 #30
I would have figured as much - how could a 3 year LiberalElite May 2016 #31
Helpful Tip SoCalMusicLover May 2016 #39
Pictures of the baby and the idiot who shot him can be found here BuelahWitch May 2016 #7
I actually pictured EXACTLY the gunman in my head, to a tee... Grown2Hate May 2016 #77
Never, ever let your gun pointed be at anyone... Vogon_Glory May 2016 #9
No. It is what the vast majority of gun huggers live by. Akicita May 2016 #20
When all you own are hammers every problem looks like a nail Botany May 2016 #10
Guns that kill children are a hot collectors item with the ammosexual crowd Major Nikon May 2016 #14
I call bs. That's just too sick. Where did you come up with that? Akicita May 2016 #21
... Major Nikon May 2016 #27
Oh. That freak. I stand corrected. There are some really sick f**ks around. Akicita May 2016 #37
You stand corrected? pablo_marmol May 2016 #41
Where there is one... atreides1 May 2016 #46
AS IF your 'crime guns' are comparable to Zman's gun. pablo_marmol May 2016 #66
Rest in peace baby Dominic. Jim__ May 2016 #11
Well, at least the step-dad followed through on his promise. Good parenting, there. Coventina May 2016 #12
He's just following what parenting advice is in the Bible. Manifestor_of_Light May 2016 #73
18 yr old step dad? LittleGirl May 2016 #13
You can smell the meth on him Botany May 2016 #22
yep that's the photo LittleGirl May 2016 #26
That's his last name WAYMAN tattooed over his eye . The cross or tear? Who know wtf that is Person 2713 May 2016 #54
I am in no way condoning this, but the step-father here is little more than a kid himself rurallib May 2016 #29
You have a point, His father should had put his foot down on wanna-be billy badass at around 13-14 snooper2 May 2016 #81
Face as bathroom stall literature Fairgo May 2016 #53
I have no problem with mature and responsible people owning a gun... perdita9 May 2016 #15
Apparently, this wasn't the first time he'd pointed christx30 May 2016 #17
Would there have to be video of the chair throwing? alcibiades_mystery May 2016 #35
As he is sitting in jail and has destroyed a family... coyote May 2016 #23
... shenmue May 2016 #28
According to NRA policy SCantiGOP May 2016 #24
Can you provide a citation from an official NRA source which backs this claim? Marengo May 2016 #57
LaPierre, Exec VP of NRA SCantiGOP May 2016 #58
False. The NRA never claims the victim is at fault. Kang Colby May 2016 #67
Thanks for the uplifting message SCantiGOP May 2016 #68
False. Kang Colby May 2016 #69
The 2AM was intended to restrict ownership to hunting rifles? Marengo May 2016 #79
Yes SCantiGOP May 2016 #80
The firelock was the common military weapon in use at the time... Marengo May 2016 #83
Still standing by the assertion that the authors of the 2am... Marengo May 2016 #85
I don't interpret that statement to mean they are advocating children to be armed. Marengo May 2016 #84
Stepson. So mom had a son, real dad not present, and picked this fella to care for her son? jtuck004 May 2016 #25
I wouldn't pin this on the mother. Rabid, sociopathic rage happens across the board, Judi Lynn May 2016 #42
My comment had nothing to do with color or money, but fucked-up parenting and jtuck004 May 2016 #48
You reminded me I've thought the same thing about similar crimes. Didn't see your post correctly. Judi Lynn May 2016 #50
In reality, there is probably a whole line behind that stepfather, helped get him jtuck004 May 2016 #52
Did a tattoo artist get bored and start doodling on his eyebrow? Oneironaut May 2016 #56
Jail tattoo. okasha May 2016 #75
I feel like he didn't intend to actually fire the gun, but... retrowire May 2016 #32
Praise Jeebus the man never lost his 2A rights to protect his family. Except his stepson, of course. valerief May 2016 #33
"Witnesses first told police that the boy...accidentally caused a gun to fire.."? red dog 1 May 2016 #34
yes, but a crime that is virtually never prosecuted. ManiacJoe May 2016 #43
I love your avatar photo. red dog 1 May 2016 #60
Yes, according to the file name of the borrowed picture. ManiacJoe May 2016 #62
This is just unbelievably horrible. leftyladyfrommo May 2016 #36
People Control, Not Gun Control Sancho May 2016 #38
Thank you, Sancho SCantiGOP May 2016 #59
The biggest threat to a family is a father, husband, or boyfriend with a gun Kaleva May 2016 #40
especially when said father, husband, or boyfriend is strung out on dope. deimos1 May 2016 #44
And is 18 Brother Joe Observes May 2016 #64
Sometimes I wonder... awoke_in_2003 May 2016 #45
"Police were called Tuesday to a trailer" Blandocyte May 2016 #47
Too young to drink but he can have a gun. McCamy Taylor May 2016 #49
Who could imagine that makes sense? Stupid, violent people. Judi Lynn May 2016 #51
It will be interesting to see if the gun was legally obtained. ManiacJoe May 2016 #63
This is murder. JI7 May 2016 #55
horrible. What idiot marries a teen and makes him stepdad of three year old? Liberal_in_LA May 2016 #61
I see the threat of getting the death penalty hasn't prevented another heinous crime. tenderfoot May 2016 #65
Who marries men like this? noneko May 2016 #70
Ummmm...there are crazy and stupid women out there too. tabasco May 2016 #71
What if the mother wasn't crazy? noneko May 2016 #72
The NRA locks May 2016 #74
What sort of person can't discipline a three year old without a gun to protect him? Bad Dog May 2016 #76
As Idiocracy marches forward in the good old new USA. So pathetic. n/t RKP5637 May 2016 #78

PJMcK

(22,038 posts)
18. You're right!
Sat May 21, 2016, 12:57 PM
May 2016

You piqued my interest, niyad, so I went to the comments section of the article. While many of the opinions expressed mirror those on this thread, some were rude and heartless; a child was killed! Several comments had been removed so they could have been even uglier.

In any event, this one stood out:

"Only in America do responsible gun owners discipline kids by executing them."

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
82. Let me guess:
Mon May 23, 2016, 09:59 AM
May 2016

Obama engineered this whole thing through mind control so he'd have the justification to grab guns??

Hayduke Bomgarte

(1,965 posts)
4. Holy cow
Sat May 21, 2016, 12:14 PM
May 2016

I guess that'll teach him.

I don't believe in the death penalty, but jackasses like this make it extremely hard to maintain that position.

BuelahWitch

(9,083 posts)
8. Dude has "dead eyes"
Sat May 21, 2016, 12:25 PM
May 2016

I don't know what attracts women to that kind of man. Even when I was young, a guy like that made me run far, far away.

Hayduke Bomgarte

(1,965 posts)
16. I know whatcha mean
Sat May 21, 2016, 12:54 PM
May 2016

I've run across people like that and learned many times, later on, that they've done something horrible. One guy, from years ago, was the main suspect in a rape and murder and was himself later murdered.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
6. Most experts don't recommend this for ages under five
Sat May 21, 2016, 12:16 PM
May 2016

Pointing a gun at three year old is not a good idea, according to most parenting and child development experts. They don't fully understand what a gun is capable of doing. When they are around five and definitely seven, then they appreciate and respond more appropriately to the use of firearms as aids to discipline.

ejbr

(5,856 posts)
30. Good to know
Sat May 21, 2016, 01:44 PM
May 2016

I always thought this was a grey area. It truly is so much easier to pick up a gun and shoot a child than pick him up and hug him.

And the rest of the world wonders how we got Trump. It appears our genes are now mixed with 3 parts stupidity and 5 parts evil.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
31. I would have figured as much - how could a 3 year
Sat May 21, 2016, 01:44 PM
May 2016

old possibly understand what such a threat meant? But then, the perp is an 18 year old moron who shouldn't own a cockroach much less be a stepfather to a young child.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
39. Helpful Tip
Sat May 21, 2016, 02:53 PM
May 2016

The next time I want to point a gun at a child, I'll make sure they're at least "around five" and perhaps seven, before doing so.

Grown2Hate

(2,013 posts)
77. I actually pictured EXACTLY the gunman in my head, to a tee...
Mon May 23, 2016, 02:44 AM
May 2016

...but then I saw the picture of the child and a CHILL ran down my spine. Evil mother fucker...

Vogon_Glory

(9,124 posts)
9. Never, ever let your gun pointed be at anyone...
Sat May 21, 2016, 12:26 PM
May 2016

There was an old British doggerel that has fallen out of favor but could still save lives if taken to heart:

Never, ever let your gun / Pointed be at anyone. / That it may not loaded be / Matters not the least to me.

I fear that many gun-huggers would see circulating this old verse as a threat to their "right" to bear arms.

Botany

(70,539 posts)
10. When all you own are hammers every problem looks like a nail
Sat May 21, 2016, 12:27 PM
May 2016

Very few countries in the world have the level of gun violence that America has.

BTW I hope that the good people from the NRA get to Bellevue, TX and are able
to protect that precious gun.


Dominic Tra'Juan Castro

pablo_marmol

(2,375 posts)
41. You stand corrected?
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:31 PM
May 2016

Because an individual who made a ridiculous broad-brush claim was able to come up with ONE example? Seriously?

atreides1

(16,084 posts)
46. Where there is one...
Sat May 21, 2016, 04:29 PM
May 2016

...it's a good bet there are others! Someone is buying weapons used in crimes, and law enforcement are the arms dealers!

It seems that Texas, Arizona, Montana, North Dakota, Kansas, Tennessee, Michigan, West Virginia, Louisiana, North Carolina and Georgia, have laws that require law enforcement agencies sell firearms used for criminal activity, instead of destroying them!

" But in some states, the law now only allows police departments to destroy nonworking, unsafe or illegal guns or, in some cases, those used in violent crimes. Meanwhile, some states allow police departments to donate seized weapons to other government agencies or retain them for their own use. "


http://www.thegazette.com/2013/04/28/some-guns-used-in-iowa-crimes-sold-back-to-the-public


http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/12/dean-weingarten/kansas-gun-law-pays-off-wichita-pd-schedules-confiscated-gun-auction/

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/news/story/2011/aug/14/tennessee-law-could-lead-police-selling-firearms-s/56409/

http://nccriminallaw.sog.unc.edu/new-law-regarding-disposal-of-seized-guns/

http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/21/news/police-selling-seized-guns/

Coventina

(27,140 posts)
12. Well, at least the step-dad followed through on his promise. Good parenting, there.
Sat May 21, 2016, 12:32 PM
May 2016

Too many parents make idle threats and don't follow through, so kids learn not to listen.


Any other kids in the household will know Dad means business!!!

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
73. He's just following what parenting advice is in the Bible.
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:52 PM
May 2016

Matthew 15:4 and others:

For God commanded, ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘Whoever reviles father or mother must surely die.’

Yes, it says DIE.

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
13. 18 yr old step dad?
Sat May 21, 2016, 12:38 PM
May 2016

OMG, he's still a baby and he's a step father too? WTF!
I hope he spends the rest of his life in prison. idiot.

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
54. That's his last name WAYMAN tattooed over his eye . The cross or tear? Who know wtf that is
Sat May 21, 2016, 06:39 PM
May 2016

Don't ask why though ...so everybody knows his name?

rurallib

(62,432 posts)
29. I am in no way condoning this, but the step-father here is little more than a kid himself
Sat May 21, 2016, 01:32 PM
May 2016

His parents must have really fucked him up when they reared him. Kind of wonder what that story is.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
81. You have a point, His father should had put his foot down on wanna-be billy badass at around 13-14
Mon May 23, 2016, 09:39 AM
May 2016

I guess he will find out how "hard" he is in prison...


Fairgo

(1,571 posts)
53. Face as bathroom stall literature
Sat May 21, 2016, 06:23 PM
May 2016

What? did you run out of paper? Get bored and start doodling on your face? Whose Wayman? Are you really a christian? If every picture tells a story, yours should be posted above a urinal.

perdita9

(1,144 posts)
15. I have no problem with mature and responsible people owning a gun...
Sat May 21, 2016, 12:43 PM
May 2016

This idiot in Texas doesn't meet either of those qualifications and his 3 year old son paid the price for it.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
17. Apparently, this wasn't the first time he'd pointed
Sat May 21, 2016, 12:57 PM
May 2016

the gun at the kid. It's a wonder the mom stayed with such a dangerous, highly unstable individual.
If I so much as threw a chair out of anger, my wife would take the kids and be out of there so fast there would be flaming tire tracks in the driveway. And I wouldn't blame her one bit.


 

coyote

(1,561 posts)
23. As he is sitting in jail and has destroyed a family...
Sat May 21, 2016, 01:08 PM
May 2016

I wonder if he think it was worth killing that 3 year old.

What a fucked up tragedy.

 

Marengo

(3,477 posts)
57. Can you provide a citation from an official NRA source which backs this claim?
Sat May 21, 2016, 08:22 PM
May 2016

I've seen it made often, but never with a citation. The argument is not very effective without this.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
58. LaPierre, Exec VP of NRA
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:18 PM
May 2016

Close to his exact quote: the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is with a good guy with a gun.

 

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)
67. False. The NRA never claims the victim is at fault.
Sun May 22, 2016, 11:54 AM
May 2016

In this case, when the police arrived on scene they were carrying guns.

This guy is a scumbag, who should have been in prison. My guess was he had multiple priors. We need to bring back "3 strikes" laws. No reason to have this kind of trash out walking the streets.

Thankfully, this is Texas and is also a capital murder case. Hopefully he gets the shot in his arm.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
68. Thanks for the uplifting message
Sun May 22, 2016, 12:58 PM
May 2016

The answer to gun violence in this case is to kill more people. Doesn't bring back the victim, does it?

And, by inference, the NRA always blames the victim by trotting out that crap about more guns making it more likely a "good guy" stops a "bad guy," and that gun-free zones increase the chance of violence.

Their worst crime against humanity is how they take the right to own handguns and hunting rifles and turn it into some sacred requirement that we not regulate automatic weapons, armor-piercing bullets and high capacity magazines.

The NRA is nothing more than the lobby of the gun and ammo manufacturing sector.

 

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)
69. False.
Sun May 22, 2016, 01:09 PM
May 2016

The NRA never blames the victim. Automatic weapons have been heavily regulated for over 70 years. Armor piercing ammo was banned by Reagan in the 1980s and homicide is now at a 50 year low.

Let's cool it with the hyperbole and stick with the facts.

 

Marengo

(3,477 posts)
79. The 2AM was intended to restrict ownership to hunting rifles?
Mon May 23, 2016, 08:03 AM
May 2016

"hunting rifles" is the definition of arms in the text?

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
80. Yes
Mon May 23, 2016, 08:46 AM
May 2016

It certainly wasn't meant at the time to include military type weapons like it does now. Handguns for personal protection and hunting rifles is what should be covered.
There is absolutely no reason for a private citizen to own a military style weapon. If you want those, follow the amendment and join an organized militia.

 

Marengo

(3,477 posts)
83. The firelock was the common military weapon in use at the time...
Mon May 23, 2016, 11:35 AM
May 2016

It was also in common civilian use as well. The primary differences would have been provision for mounting a bayonet, rifled vs. smooth bore, and caliber. Other than these (and not these in all cases), the arms in military and civilian use were largely similar.


 

Marengo

(3,477 posts)
85. Still standing by the assertion that the authors of the 2am...
Wed May 25, 2016, 12:33 PM
May 2016

Intended it only to allow possession of hunting rifles?

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
25. Stepson. So mom had a son, real dad not present, and picked this fella to care for her son?
Sat May 21, 2016, 01:18 PM
May 2016

Privilege = not having people who make decisions such as these making decisions for you. Or anyone you know.

Judi Lynn

(160,586 posts)
42. I wouldn't pin this on the mother. Rabid, sociopathic rage happens across the board,
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:39 PM
May 2016

in expensive homes, and among families which are all white.

[center] [/center]
Hoping this beautiful little kid didn't actually have time to know about the hideous thing which ended his life.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
48. My comment had nothing to do with color or money, but fucked-up parenting and
Sat May 21, 2016, 05:15 PM
May 2016

stupid decisions across the board.


I'm not castigating her, because, sure, anyone could have mistaken him for a corporate CEO. But it takes two. Or in this case three.

And that kid's body lies among the excuses.

Judi Lynn

(160,586 posts)
50. You reminded me I've thought the same thing about similar crimes. Didn't see your post correctly.
Sat May 21, 2016, 06:07 PM
May 2016

Thanks for the invitation back to reality.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
52. In reality, there is probably a whole line behind that stepfather, helped get him
Sat May 21, 2016, 06:13 PM
May 2016

to where he is now.

In almost all of these cases I have read about and seen over the years, there is nearly always a history where we help construct folks like this. The parents, of course, (his of course, hers perhaps) but all the systems around where we try to prevent tragedy, and yet this. He could have been the product of a great home, but I wonder. It goes beyond parents, but the old Philip Larkin poem, "This be the Verse" comes to mind, ya know?

Take care.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
32. I feel like he didn't intend to actually fire the gun, but...
Sat May 21, 2016, 01:51 PM
May 2016

was an idiot so....

I don't know. I have trouble accepting truly evil human beings that you point, threaten and intentionally shoot a child.

This world.... Am I right?

valerief

(53,235 posts)
33. Praise Jeebus the man never lost his 2A rights to protect his family. Except his stepson, of course.
Sat May 21, 2016, 01:51 PM
May 2016

red dog 1

(27,837 posts)
34. "Witnesses first told police that the boy...accidentally caused a gun to fire.."?
Sat May 21, 2016, 02:17 PM
May 2016

"Witnesses later admitted that Wayman pointed the gun aat the boy & told him that he'd shoot him if he didn't stop jumping on the bed.."??

If the boy's mother did, indeed, lie to the police at first, in order to "help" the asshole boyfriend who shot & killed her son, then she should be charged with lying to the police, and/or obstruction of justice,

Lying to the police is a crime in every state.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,869 posts)
36. This is just unbelievably horrible.
Sat May 21, 2016, 02:37 PM
May 2016

That poor baby left with 2 awful parents.

How some of these kids even survive is a miracle. And this kind of abuse happens all the time.

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
38. People Control, Not Gun Control
Sat May 21, 2016, 02:46 PM
May 2016

This is my generic response to gun threads where people are shot and killed by the dumb or criminal possession of guns. For the record, I grew up in the South and on military bases. I was taught about firearms as a child, and I grew up hunting, was a member of the NRA, and I still own guns. In the 70’s, I dropped out of the NRA because they become more radical and less interested in safety and training. Some personal experiences where people I know were involved in shootings caused me to realize that anyone could obtain and posses a gun no matter how illogical it was for them to have a gun. Also, easy access to more powerful guns, guns in the hands of children, and guns that weren’t secured are out of control in our society. As such, here’s what I now think ought to be the requirements to possess a gun. I’m not debating the legal language, I just think it’s the reasonable way to stop the shootings. Notice, none of this restricts the type of guns sold. This is aimed at the people who shoot others, because it’s clear that they should never have had a gun.

1.) Anyone in possession of a gun (whether they own it or not) should have a regularly renewed license. If you want to call it a permit, certificate, or something else that's fine.
2.) To get a license, you should have a background check, and be examined by a professional for emotional and mental stability appropriate for gun possession. It might be appropriate to require that examination to be accompanied by references from family, friends, employers, etc. This check is not to subject you to a mental health diagnosis, just check on your superficial and apparent gun-worthyness.
3.) To get the license, you should be required to take a safety course and pass a test appropriate to the type of gun you want to use.
4.) To get a license, you should be over 21. Under 21, you could only use a gun under direct supervision of a licensed person and after obtaining a learner’s license. Your license might be restricted if you have children or criminals or other unsafe people living in your home. (If you want to argue 18 or 25 or some other age, fine. 21 makes sense to me.)
5.) If you possess a gun, you would have to carry a liability insurance policy specifically for gun ownership - and likely you would have to provide proof of appropriate storage, security, and whatever statistical reasons that emerge that would drive the costs and ability to get insurance.
6.) You could not purchase a gun or ammunition without a license, and purchases would have a waiting period.
7.) If you possess a gun without a license, you go to jail, the gun is impounded, and a judge will have to let you go (just like a DUI).
8.) No one should carry an unsecured gun (except in a locked case, unloaded) when outside of home. Guns should be secure when transporting to a shooting event without demonstrating a special need. Their license should indicate training and special carry circumstances beyond recreational shooting (security guard, etc.). If you are carrying your gun while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, you lose your gun and license.
9.) If you buy, sell, give away, or inherit a gun, your license information should be recorded.
10.) If you accidentally discharge your gun, commit a crime, get referred by a mental health professional, are served a restraining order, etc., you should lose your license and guns until reinstated by a serious relicensing process.

Most of you know that a license is no big deal. Besides a driver’s license you need a license to fish, operate a boat, or many other activities. I realize these differ by state, but that is not a reason to let anyone without a bit of sense pack a semiautomatic weapon in public, on the roads, and in schools. I think we need to make it much harder for some people to have guns.

Blandocyte

(1,231 posts)
47. "Police were called Tuesday to a trailer"
Sat May 21, 2016, 04:46 PM
May 2016

I see something like this and know it won't be a feel-good story.

Judi Lynn

(160,586 posts)
51. Who could imagine that makes sense? Stupid, violent people.
Sat May 21, 2016, 06:09 PM
May 2016

Not only are they limited mentally, they are able to kill you from a distance if you don't please them.

tenderfoot

(8,437 posts)
65. I see the threat of getting the death penalty hasn't prevented another heinous crime.
Sun May 22, 2016, 02:33 AM
May 2016

So much for the deterrent thing.

Rest in Peace Dominic Tra'Juan.

noneko

(33 posts)
70. Who marries men like this?
Sun May 22, 2016, 02:11 PM
May 2016

As a female, I can't wrap my mind around it. Do women actually like crazy men? How can you not know someone is missing a few screws? I would notice that right away.

And what is a 18 year old doing with a gun? WHY? What does he need it for?! This is why I left Texas.

noneko

(33 posts)
72. What if the mother wasn't crazy?
Sun May 22, 2016, 03:02 PM
May 2016

But then what if she was? I just don't see a sane woman with a child marrying someone like this. Marriage is completely avoidable( for the most part).

Unless she's a teen. Teens can be so naive and stupid. I def was.

Also I never said there weren't crazy stupid women.

locks

(2,012 posts)
74. The NRA
Sun May 22, 2016, 10:01 PM
May 2016

wants kindergartners to learn to shoot; perhaps we'd better start instruction at three years so that they can defend themselves against their family members.

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
76. What sort of person can't discipline a three year old without a gun to protect him?
Mon May 23, 2016, 02:34 AM
May 2016

Home of the Brave? You're having a laugh.

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