Sanders campaign accuses Puerto Rico Dem officials of fraud
Source: The Hill
Bernie Sanders is accusing Puerto Ricos Democratic Party officials of fraud in the territorys presidential primary.
The campaigns head of Hispanic voter efforts, Betsy Franceschini, told Caribbean Business in an interview that Sanders officials were initially denied access to prisons to help inmates vote.
Our Bernie Sanders officials were never certified. We had 40 officials we submitted in time for the prisons. Not one of them was certified, while all of theirs [Hillary Clintons] went in. Attorney Manny Suárez had to go in order for us to be let in. This is a great fraud, Franceschini said.
In an internal campaign document, the Sanders camp also alleged the local partys president Roberto Prats and elections commissioner Ramon Lopez de Azua are holding back the certifications of Bernie Sanders voting center officials.
Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/dem-primaries/282228-sanders-campaign-accuses-puerto-rico-dem-officials-of-fraud
Who knew that the Democratic Party ran the prisons in Puerto Rico? I thought prisons were usually run by a State or agency department of corrections. Also, why the Democratic Party? Shouldn't the Republican Party run the prisons, since they are all into incarcerating folks?
elleng
(131,138 posts)newthinking
(3,982 posts)They released the certifications today. Likely after realizing this was hitting the press.
There are people here really trying to spin this nastily.
elleng
(131,138 posts)Good they released the certifications, last possible day.
'Nothing to see here.'
pnwmom
(108,995 posts)newthinking
(3,982 posts)Watch the video linked in the first reply.
There will be 430 polling places this year. There were more than 2000 in 2008. They scheduled the primary the same day as local primaries and made the hours from 8-3PM, 7 hours. (so many people will have to make a choice between the two).
The government has already admitted that only about half of the people that come to the poles will be able to vote.
Is that something worth defending?
MADem
(135,425 posts)The commonwealth is BROKE. They have no money.
Think maybe that has something to do with the reductions in polling places...maybe?
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/02/americas/puerto-rico-exodus/
newthinking
(3,982 posts)Any other talking point theories to try and justify this?
Even if it were funding related that would be telling about the parties and the countrie's respect of democracy and almost as concerning. Are we turning our system third world? Or can we find money to at least keep democracy on life support?
MADem
(135,425 posts)There's graffiti all over CONDADO.
If you don't know what that means, I am not surprised.
They can't afford to PAY people to supervise even volunteer poll workers.
You have no situational awareness. None whatsoever. Fly down there, have a look and then we'll talk.
smdh.
Here--sing along:
Ghost Dog
(16,881 posts)in the wealthy and tourist barrio of Condado (Santurce)?
MADem
(135,425 posts)In a place where there has always been a cop every fifty feet.
When reality intrudes into that sector, you know things are bad.
Let me put it another way--you can find parking with no problem.
Will your car be unmolested when you return, though?
Ghost Dog
(16,881 posts)Gangs, pandillas, you say...
MADem
(135,425 posts)It looks old and settled, though--like no one gives a shit anymore.
My people don't live in that area-we do like to go to dinner there sometimes.
pnwmom
(108,995 posts)So why believe anything they say?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141476600
newthinking
(3,982 posts)There goes that reading comprehension... It is in your own posting.
I have been mostly staying out of arguments with you. We had some decent exchanges in the past. Why are you doing this kind of shit? Is it worth it? Maybe you should take a break from the keyboard?
pnwmom
(108,995 posts)group they certified was made up of Sanders people.
I trust them more than the Sanders people. Obviously you feel differently.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/dem-primaries/282237-puerto-rico-democratic-party-denies-wrongdoing-in-primary
"I am appalled at the remarks from the spokesperson of the Bernie Sanders Campaign in Puerto Rico, Ms. Betsy Franceschini," local Democratic Party president Roberto Prats said in a statement.
Franceschini had accused party officials in Puerto Rico of witholding certifications from Sanders officials, initially preventing them from organizing voters in prisons.
"The claim that the Democratic Party is delaying the certification of the Sanders' poll workers is preposterous. The first complete set of pollworkers for tomorrow's primary we have certified were all from the Sander's Campaign."
Gman
(24,780 posts)It's so friggin old now.
newthinking
(3,982 posts)Is your reading comprehension that bad or do you care if you misreport this kind of thing?
pnwmom
(108,995 posts)It's all they have left.
pnwmom
(108,995 posts)newthinking
(3,982 posts)Their comments say they did it today. Sanders made the accusation early in the morning.
Fucking almost childish.
"Oh shit! This is going to the press. Get those out quickly before I have my press conference to act outraged at the accusation!!"
pnwmom
(108,995 posts)newthinking
(3,982 posts)pnwmom
(108,995 posts)OwlinAZ
(410 posts)of voter suppression. What a surprise.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)How could a majority of Democrats anywhere choose to deny him their votes?
newthinking
(3,982 posts)The government has already said that there will only be enough polls to accommodate half the expected voters. And that is only one of the issues occurring,
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Poorly run campaign, badly managed, that failed to convince a majority of Democrats that he was the best candidate.
newthinking
(3,982 posts)However you deal with your conscience is your own.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)It is Sanders Campaign that has the problems.
newthinking
(3,982 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)It is good when people laugh together.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Or, you never read. Probably that is it right there.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Reduction of precincts to that of 1/5 of what they had in 2008 (over 2,000 then, and now only 432 precincts?)
They also decided that voting time would be shortened between 8 am to 3 PM, actually believing all these people would not only have time to vote after church, but vote in DIFFERENT precincts - one for local elections which had been changed from caucus to primary voting, and the other election for national/presidential.
No one in this short order, REGARDLESS of economic times, should commit this election fraud where there are not enough people volunteering for poll work, and all of a sudden, everyone has to scramble like fucking sardines in various cans across PR.
What a FUCKING FRAUDULENT ACT.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)entitled. And their minions carry their water.
newthinking
(3,982 posts)But unfortunately it seems to be true.
bjo59
(1,166 posts)be remembered even one day after their usefulness no longer matters?
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)meet, but have no problem at all with stratospherically profitable companies receiving billions in free tax subsidies.
What they consider logical is pathetic and child-like.
Democat
(11,617 posts)You're doing Trump's work for him.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Alerting, locking, hiding, censoring, banning, gravedancing are all traits of conservatives. Not a thing "politically liberal" there.
Democat
(11,617 posts)I will support either Democrat over Trump. I disagree with the idea that DU should be a place to bash Democrats during the election.
Sander and Clinton are both qualified to be president. We need to beat Trump regardless of which one is the nominee.
Bashing our own candidates only helps Trump.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)just to get their supporters to believe anything...he lost months ago, get over it.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)don't accept the democratic system. And don't tell me to "get over it". We have 2.5 million homeless children and 16 million children living in poverty and 21 vets committing suicide every day because of the status quo that you seem to be supporting. I will never get over that. The fact that you can is sickening.
Gman
(24,780 posts)That they lost? This unsubstantiated whining after every single loss has destroyed his credibility.
newthinking
(3,982 posts)joeybee12
(56,177 posts)pnwmom
(108,995 posts)bjo59
(1,166 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)pnwmom
(108,995 posts)that the actual account is 6 for Hillary and 1 for Bernie.
http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/VI-D
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)authoritarian leader. While you support higher profits for Corporations, we fight for ending the homelessness of 2,500.000 children.
You are on the wrong side of this class war.
msongs
(67,453 posts)bjo59
(1,166 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)You have already lost.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Bob-Bye #87
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)MFM008
(19,820 posts)from the state of DENIAL.
reACTIONary
(5,786 posts)gwheezie
(3,580 posts)So when Bernie wins a primary, no one should be concerned his supporters cheated.
bjo59
(1,166 posts)the Democratic Party.
newthinking
(3,982 posts)that people are voting twice! Get Limbaugh on the phone!
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Wahoo! *That's* the big story here.
BainsBane
(53,072 posts)Bernie's polls obviously show him doing badly there.
Jopin Klobe
(779 posts)... drip ... drip ...
msongs
(67,453 posts)that I recall. ACTUAL fraud that is. yet on DU his crowd repeats fraud/cheating/rigged dutifully by the hour
OhZone
(3,212 posts)they'll be all into conspiracy theories. Oh well.
puffy socks
(1,473 posts)Each time they look sillier and sillier pretending the elections are rigged against Bernie.
My favorite is still the the claim of Hillary rigging the coin toss in Iowa.
MFM008
(19,820 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,241 posts)Norman Conch Quest
(64 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)askeptic
(478 posts)joeybee12
(56,177 posts)I wouldn't expect that classless buffoon from Vermont to do anything like that.
Laser102
(816 posts)Is this what we can expect from a Sanders president? WAH, Wah, Putin was mean to me. Germany won't do what I want. Stomp, stomp. Childish.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)They lost. Kind of a pattern.
Norman Conch Quest
(64 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,176 posts)joeybee12
(56,177 posts)to believe he only lost because of this...what garbage he is.
SoFlaJet
(7,767 posts)I am so over this pretend democrat.
George II
(67,782 posts)....local parties throughout the island. At least that's what MSNBC explained this afternoon.