Clinton: I Expect Sanders To Call For Unity After Tuesday

[big_dog]

Source: Politico.com 06/05/16 10:44 EDT

Bernie Sanders should end his campaign and begin convincing supporters to line up behind Hillary Clinton as the presumptive Democratic nominee, Clinton said in an interview that aired Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union.”
Clinton said that in 2008, some supporters urged her to battle Barack Obama to the convention but noted that she decided to cede to Obama rather than fight because they shared similar policy goals and values. When this year’s primary season largely ends Tuesday, she said, “I expect Senator Sanders to do the same.”

In a separate interview on ABC’s “This Week,” Clinton added, “I think given where we are in this race, that I will have not only more than a three million vote margin, but I will have a significant majority of pledged delegates by the close of voting on Tuesday.”
Sanders, though, has given no indication he intends to clear Clinton’s path this week. He told CNN in a corresponding interview that the world could change dramatically before the Democratic National Convention.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/06/clinton-sanders-democrats-california-convention-223916

[merrily]

1. These are not the droids you're looking for.

[Doctor Jack]

3. Best to drag these things out so that it damages everyone involved

[merrily]

7. I haven't been donating to him because he said he'd drop out if Hillary wanted him to.

If she can't win against Trump unless he drops out now, the Party has much bigger problems than his going until the convention nominate someone.

Some people are having a collective tantrum and calling it important to the country. Not buying it.

[Doctor Jack]

9. If he campaigns against her for the next few months

attacks her and claims that she isn't the legitimate nominee, that could be quite damaging.

[merrily]

11. My reply 7 already addressed your reply 9

[JDPriestly]

68. Hillary has a lot of problems including potential legal problems in several areas.

Bernie should stay in the race.

This is not 2008. Obama had no FBI investigation, no foundation that might suggest conflicts of interest, and no crazy former Secret Service agent writing sensationalist books about him. This is 2016. Bernie should stay in the race until after the convention at the very least.

[merrily]

77. And, unlike Hillary in 2008, Bernie is not trying to cut a deal for 8 years from now.

If he is, I won't support it, but he isn't. He has no more fracks to give, except about anti-fracking.

[Buzz cook]

110. That's because he can't cut a deal

For eight years from now. He's old dude.

[merrily]

111. Yet not much older than Hillary. Seems much healthier than she does, too.

Sorry, ageism just backfires on a Hillary supporter every time.

Just yell "sexism." That one works well, most especially on female Bernie supporters.

[Buzz cook]

113. Really?

Clinton will be too old eight years from now as well.

I wouldn't vote for the sweet baby jEzUz if he were an octogenarian.

But feel free to support Sanders in 2024 if you wish.

[merrily]

115. Um, follow a train of thought much? Please see Reply 77. Thanks ever so.

You replied to it at least 20 minutes ago, so I can where you'd forget.

[Buzz cook]

117. Hmm so

you have no reply.

To be honest I wouldn't vote for jezuz no matter how old he is.

[merrily]

123. No you got a reply: You went full circle within 20 minutes without even realizing it.

Not a good sign. An even worse sign? Still not getting it after it's been pointed out to you.

[Buzz cook]

168. So you get to set the terms of a circle

Good for you. Maybe you mommy will let you go to triangle next.


Your talking point was corrupt bargain. A recurring theme amongst people who have no facts. It probably predates the republic. Certainly it was used against Washington.

So how did this bargain work? Did Clinton throw the election to Obama so that she could win again in 2016?

merrily you got a lot of splaining to do.

[merrily]

169. I have to explain Reply 77? LOL! ok. nitey nite.

[Buzz cook]

170. Typical

You make a claim and won't defend it.

You are the reason Bernie couldn't win.

[merrily]

171. LOL!

[cui bono]

118. Way more healthy.

She had some brain thing, didn't she? And she resigned as SoS due to health, citing exhaustion. How the hell is she planning on handling 8 years of the presidency?

Of course there's talk that Obama pushed her out. Not that that's any better.

.

[merrily]

119. Whatever the talk is, I don't think Obama pushed her out.

The rumor could be part of whatever deal they made, though.

In medicine, think horsies, not zebras. In politics, set your imagination free. It'll probably still never be as diabolical as the reality. That's likely why the CIA weaponized the term "conspiracy theory."

[libdem4life]

141. She does have health issues. But since that is another forbidden topic,

among a host of other similar, ones...one can Google it and find out the details.

Also, I think that is a part of why she was not out vigorously campaigning like Bernie...who appears to be healthy as a horse. Listening tours and focus groups are not really campaigning.

Then California came into play.

[libdem4life]

155. Intelligent response? Some poorly written and punctuated oneliner

posts seem to have missed the cerebral cortex befory engaging. But, it's all good.

[MariaThinks]

160. sure. If you only knew.

[cui bono]

166. What a kind and mature post. And you complain about other's posts?

.

[MariaThinks]

152. emails are no longer sticking, now let's attack her health 4 years ago.

She seems fine now.

[cui bono]

165. Attack? Please. I did not attack.

Bernie's age was brought up by a Hillary supporter and I addressed it further down the thread.

Let's keep things in perspective, shall we?

.

[Doctor Jack]

80. You guys keep saying that

How many times have I heard "the charges are coming any day now", "wait until next week, its going to be big", "the indictment is around the corner". I believed it once but I have moved on from this bullshit. Sanders and his politically suicidal fans have lost all credibility. I wanted to believe he was different but he is just another egotistical politician that wants everything despite never earning it. I voted for Sanders when the caucuses came to my state. I waited in line for hours to cast my vote for the guy. It was a massive mistake. I'm not voting for this guy if he somehow steals the nomination or for any other reason. I can't stand listening to him for one more second. Sanders is everything that is wrong with politics. He's a demagogue that claims to be above the fray but really he is driven by ego and his own glory. He is willing to let this country burn if he can't have his way. Fuck that and I don't want to be part of any group that believes any of his bullshit.

[Ned_Devine]

81. "Secret Service agent writing sensationalist books..."

I missed this. What is this all about?

[Live and Learn]

91. You can see it here:

http://www.amazon.com/First-Family-Detail-Service-Presidents/dp/080413961X

Not very well written in my opinion.

[Ned_Devine]

94. Thanks for posting

[wallyworld2]

71. She's not

The legitimate nominee is elected at the Democratic National Presidential Convention that will be held in July.

Until then Senator Sanders will be campaigning on his platform and the differences between his and Hillary's

That's not attacking

[creeksneakers2]

82. If Sanders was sticking to issues it would be fine for him to stay

He's still smearing her though.

[libdem4life]

88. I think that's a dog whistle for...bringing up her record and positions...

which is rather difficult, being they shapeshift with the current political climate.

Truman said, "I don't give people hell, I just tell them the truth and they think they're in hell." That's what I've observed in this situation, as well.

[avaistheone1]

97. Whoa! that Truman quote fits to a T!!

[avaistheone1]

95. Bernie is sticking to the issues. Hillary's record is the issue & it is entirely relevant and

critical that it be discussed in this campaign for the presidency. It is only a smear if Hillary can prove her record is untrue which she has not done.

[cui bono]

167. Only because Hillary supporters think stating the truth about her record and stances

is smearing.

Too bad you picked a candidate that you can't stand to hear facts about.

.

[secondwind]

124. One hundred percent correct on this.

[wallyworld2]

131. Thank you

[passiveporcupine]

36. Yes they are

Some people are having a collective tantrum and calling it important to the country. Not buying it.

They seem to be pretty freaked out by someone actually challenging the 'assumed' winner by following allowable rules.

I think it's because they are tired of being scared that he might actually win.

I can understand that.

[JimDandy]

40. Yep.

If she can't win against Trump unless he (Sanders) drops out now, the Party has much bigger problems than his going until the convention nominate someone.

But I donated because he stayed in until every state voted.

[wallyworld2]

67. Neither did I

She doesn't get to make up the rules as she goes along.

Democracy doesn't work that way.

[merrily]

73. A plutocracy does.

We're not a democracy and never have been. Supposedly, when we finally got universal suffrage (well, semi-universal. We still outlaw voting by felons, for example) not quite a century ago we finally become the "democracy within a Republic" that we were supposedly set up to be in that we all get to vote for people who actually do strive to represent all our best interests. How's all that been working for the past century?

[Andy823]

16. Sometimes I think that's their plan

Many on DU seem to have that goal, to do all the damage they can to Clinton and the party. I think their main goal is to have NO Democrat in the WH.

[Doctor Jack]

18. I think their plan is "If i can't have my way then the world must burn"

Sort of a morbid version of "if i can't win, i'm taking my ball and going home"

[passiveporcupine]

39. What happened to all the Hill supprters who say party over everything

and if Bernie wins they are voting for him. I mean, that's 13 million voters, right, added to Bernie's ten million and however many more are won by the end of the primaries.


That means no way Trump can win, so why the fear...there is no threat of burning the house down.

[merrily]

48. Great point! Hillary or Bust supposedly is minimal or non-existent.

So, if a Democratic victory in November is really your goal.....

[creeksneakers2]

84. We'll vote for Bernie if he wins

Not because of blackmail.

[merrily]

85. Which has zero to do with my post.

[RKP5637]

30. If Trump somehow ends up in the WH, there are going to be a lot of people IMO far

more unhappy and literally frightened than if HRC were in the WH. I still think many just do not seriously recognize what the future will hold with a Trump presidency. I like Bernie, I voted for him, but I'm not reckless enough to not do my part to stop a Trump presidency. If the nominee is HRC, then so be it, I will vote for HRC.

[passiveporcupine]

41. And I think most Bernie supporters will

We just want him to end the race when it's really over, not when Hillary decides it's over.

[merrily]

51. IMO, Hillary is not the best way to stop a Republican Presidency. That was my belief when I

thought there was no chance in hell either Sanders or Warren would run, especially Sanders, and it still is.

So it all depends on a voter's perspective and I think people who help Hillary be the nominee are the reckless ones. Please also see Replies 7 and 48.

[RKP5637]

60. TPTB of the dem party are clearly pushing the wrong candidate forward. I have this

constantly nagging feeling she could lose to Trump. The citizenry is fed up with establishments, right or wrong. Yet TPTB of the dem party are pushing forward an establishment candidate, and one with loads of baggage.

2016 is going to be very very close IMO, incredibly close. I think Bernie could easily defeat Trump. With HRC, I'm concerned. No matter how much people throw at Trump it rolls off of him with his supporters.

The dem party is in a rut, and that rut seems to deepen with HRC. Trump, has captured the anger and frustration in the US, and directed it toward support for him. Those are very powerful emotions and truth about a candidate is often blinded, for example, Teflon Don. And now the R party bosses are cosying up to him.

[merrily]

64. If she loses to Trump, the Party has bigger problems because it's hard for even mildly sane

Republicans to imagine a worse candidate than Trump. Either that, or their talking heads are trying to fool us.

David Brooks has said repeatedly that he never thought it possible that Trump would get the nom. How someone gets and keeps a job as a well paid political columnist and author after an admission like that is beyond me. So, is he unfit for his job, but gets to keep it anyway, or is he lying and Trump was the plan all along? Who knows? So much kabuki and acting, I cannot tell anymore. I can only do what I think is right.

[Ned_Devine]

83. The logic on that idea is flawed in a couple areas

1. Clinton is already damaged and we all know it. Supporters deny it and all we're doing is reminding people.
2. The same applies to the party.

Nearly all of us are life long democrats whether people on DU want to believe it or not. It's inconsequential whether you do or don't. But we're wildly disappointed in the direction the party has gone since it's been co opted by the corporate conservatives. We can't damage a party that's already damaged. Once a car is totaled, it can't become more totaled. All we're doing is uniting the people that remember what it meant to be a democrat and not some cheerleader right or wrong.

[1StrongBlackMan]

138. And, this says it all ...

[libdem4life]

140. To blame the Peasants for not following the Lord/Lady in her

Charge of the Light Brigade...right. The Peasantry referred to is the global reputation of the US...Warmonger Empire. The tower will read...Boeing, et al.

[1StrongBlackMan]

151. Okay. I trust you had a good weekend

[libdem4life]

156. I did. Thanks.

[peace13]

42. The way this primary has been run has already damaged people.

Election fraud should be monitored by both candidates. It is a crime and you can mock and hand ring all that you want. Sanders people are not going to take this sitting down. Laugh your rear end off when they stand their ground and don't take up the slack to select her. There is absolutely no reason to support someone who does not support the process.

[HeartoftheMidwest]

122. Peace13...

..I love you.

[peace13]

142. Xox. : )

[wallyworld2]

75. Allowing the primaries to complete

is not dragging anything out.

but complaining and whining that her opponent won't drop out will only make her look like another Donald chump

that's her problem

And that problem would go away if she stopped demanding Senator Sanders drop out and debated him for the legitimate candidate he is.

[Wibly]

102. Not so

Whether or not this damages people or the DNC is totally up to Clinton.
A contested convention could just as easily serve to excite and invigorate the electorate. It is all in how it is approached.
If Clinton and Co. cannot figure out a way to turn a contested convention into a positive, then how are they ever going to be able to turn around a domestic or international event that does not go the way they planned?
If the Clintons cannot find a way to use the energy of a contested convention to build momentum, they they do not deserve to live in the White House again.

[ancianita]

143. Excellent points here. Thanks.

[Gregorian]

28. That's more polite than my version

[merrily]

29. I am not even a huge sci fi fan, but that was a great line and Alec Guiness was cooler than

everything.

[grasswire]

2. oh my

She does not know what her campaign has wrought.

[Doctor Jack]

4. Is he going to threaten riots at the convention again?

[Kelvin Mace]

12. Could you provide a link to where he promised riots, please?

[passiveporcupine]

44. or even hinted that he wanted riots nt

[King_Klonopin]

100. If you want to make points on behalf of HRC, it would be better done with honesty and without guile.

"The threat of riots" is a jerky talking-point, pushed by the MSM and Hillary camp.
It is purposefully dishonest. It is very easy to throw BS grenades like this.

You know Sanders never "threatened riots". The word he used was "messy", and he even
explained what he meant ad nauseum (because this was purposefully distorted and beaten
into the ground, forcing him to defend himself) The race between him and Clinton is closer
than Clinton wants to admit. This means the convention will not be the beauty pageant
and coronation ceremony you would like it to be, but more of a "hashing out of the issues"
conventions are intended to be.

I expect that Hillary Clinton will get the delegates needed -- after Tuesday. Unless you feel
the opinions of voters in California, et al, don't matter.
She will win the primary, mostly because she has more superdelagates.
I expect that Sanders won't be the turd in the punch bowl he's painted to be, and he will
end up backing her in the general election per the usual protocol in these primary battles.

But, if Hillary manages to lose in November, Sanders has already been set up as the convenient
scapegoat.
Please remember: Obama managed to win in 2008, even though Hillary herself refused to drop
out of the race until the bitter end, and he beat a much more viable candidate.

[itsrobert]

5. Sure she does.

3,000,000 more votes and a solid majority of the Delegates.

thanks

[LuvLoogie]

8. By getting more votes and being better prepared?

[Autumn]

6. Great expectations there

[Rosa Luxemburg]

78. yes indeed

[madaboutharry]

10. After Tuesday the media will put Sanders on ignore.

If he refuses to acknowledge that Clinton has beat him, he will be made irrelevant until he concedes to Clinton. The news will be all about the general election. The country is moving on and Bernie will be left behind wearing the sandwich board of shame that reads "Sore Loser."

[Cryptoad]

14. How sad

to see Bern end this race looking some much like an Ass.......It's clear now why almost none of his cohorts endorsed him.!

[Plucketeer]

23. Indeed!

They fear being disconnected from the Gravy Train!

[RichVRichV]

17. In other words the media will continue business as usual?

[RKP5637]

32. ...

LOL, I had never thought of the media as big Bernie fans. Who would've known.

[libdem4life]

149. Indeed. They would like to continue the Gravy Train. Big Surprise.

[Flatpicker]

13. That's fine, except for

"they shared similar policy goals and values."

They really don't this time.

[Hoppy]

20. Exactly. Hillary values -- war, compliance with corporate wishes. Balls to the rest of us.

Bernie values --- no New World Order.
economic fairness for all classes.

[puffy socks]

34. Mmhmmm

Bernie values war voted for plenty of it
But youll willfully ignore that
As usual

[libdem4life]

154. He supports the troops, as he should and as I, an avid anti-war

voter do.

What he does not support...and I know this does not fit your perfect dyad of yes/no...

1) To attempt all conflicts with diplimatic solutions FIRST. War as Last Resort.

2) To seek input from allies.

3) To support the troops and do all possible in a Hawkish Empire to stay relevent...even when shameful ammendments (not his) are attached (legislative bribery) to US funding bills.

You need to get more than a one sentence understanding of a very complex issue. Really.

[puffy socks]

158. ah the usual justify anything Bernie does reply

"1) To attempt all conflicts with diplimatic solutions FIRST. War as Last Resort."

Interesting, That's precisely what Clinton stated in her 2002 Iraq Resolution speech yet she is a labeled a war hawk and Bernie gets a free pass.

"2) To seek input from allies..."

Clinton also wanted input from allies ... we had the UK , Australia, Spain and Poland


"3) To support the troops and do all possible in a Hawkish Empire to stay relevent...even when shameful ammendments (not his) are attached (legislative bribery) to US funding bills. "

Yes Clinton also voted to support troops. That's why she voted to fund them when the Bush admin. threatened to leaves them out with no supplies and blame Dems.


"You need to get more than a one sentence understanding of a very complex issue. Really."
Says the person who just made it painfully obvious they have no understanding of the complex issue.

So now
what was the difference between voting to oust Saddam in 1998 as opposed to 2003? Because ol Bernard was all for it then.

[libdem4life]

159. Thank you for sharing.

[shenmue]

66. What the hell is the new world order?

[jmowreader]

163. Start here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_%28conspiracy_theory%29

[puffy socks]

33. Hmmmm

"Well, that’s -- well, the answer is yes and no," Sanders responded. "Yes, we do agree on a number of issues, and by the way, on her worst day, Hillary Clinton will be an infinitely better candidate and President than the Republican candidate on his best day."

[BlueStater]

15. So let's see.

1) Vote for and support one of the worst foreign policy blunders in American history, a war based on lies that took the lives of thousands of people.

2) Deny for years and years and years that it was a mistake to vote for said war.

3) Become the Democratic nominee for President of the United States.

And for some reason I can't even begin to grasp, a lot of people are happy about this.

[McKim]

43. The Lancet Put the Iraw War Body Count at One Million

The Lancet put the body count for the Iraq War at one million and counting.

[liberal from boston]

49. Hillary Clinton and the Syrian Bloodbath

I will not vote for Hillary due to her aggressive hawkish Foreign Policy:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-sachs/hillary-clinton-and-the-s_b_9231190.html

[mac56]

19. ---

[Skittles]

76. they said that last time

please stop with the "her time" bullshit

[avaistheone1]

98. LOL

How fitting!

[Zorro]

21. Good for her

Time for Sanders to acknowledge the inevitable and work together against the Republicans -- if he meant what he said about preventing a Trump presidency.

[dchill]

38. There's good old "inevitable" again. Two more "I" words for you.

Indictable. Impeachable. Take your pick. They both work well with "inevitable."

[passiveporcupine]

46. Oh he wants to prevent a Trump presidency alright

That's why he is staying in the race to the end.

[Pastiche423]

22. She EXPECTS?

Keep on expecting, cause it ain't gonna happen.

[840high]

59. She can expect to

never get my vote.

[warrprayer]

24. We are unified

Behind Bernie Sanders.

[reddread]

136. dont they know it

its getting pretty close to the end of the game, anyone counting on winning with a bluff
will be sweating heavily for a while.
isnt it too bad they cannot offer anything to induce support from liberal Democrats?
can not. will not. simply wont.
thats a really nice one way street you have there.

[LonePirate]

25. Sanders can call for unity all he wants but many of his supporters won't heed that call.

For them, it's never been about what Bernie believes in or has to say.

Then again, many of them are not Democrats so they will return to their Libertarian loving ways any day now.

[A Simple Game]

148. This Bernie supporter can not vote for her. I had eliminated her before

Bernie even declared himself a candidate.

Had enough of perpetual war, having to pick the lesser of two evils, etc. Take your pick, for me it was all of the above and Bernie had nothing to do with it.

What it really boils down to is that I'm done voting against someone, I will now only vote for someone that I consider worthy of my vote.

[SusanLarson]

26. Better than the Onion

Not gonna happen. Even if it did millions of Sanders supporters would say Frak that.

[grasswire]

27. I like your style.

Welcome to DU. Sorry for the mess around here tonight.

[passiveporcupine]

31. You know what you can do with your expectations?

Forget about it.

[Skink]

35. This from someone sneaking around Obamas back for years

[SmittynMo]

37. Two words - July 25

Comprehend? Add "Contested" to the list of words. There ya have it. Pretty simple.

[McKim]

45. She Sounds Rather Arrogant Like Talking Down to an Unruly Child

The tone of Hillary's comments on her expectations sounds like she is talking down to an unruly child. This is a power grab to shut down
Sanders, his supporters and his ideas for the platform. Sounds a lot like "bring them to heel".

[840high]

61. Hillary is arrogant.

[libdem4life]

145. She had a cadre of fawning aides around her and a cult of voters for decades.

What else should she be, grateful? gracious? humble? uniting?

[Zambero]

47. As the Beach Boys once sang

"Wouldn't It Be Nice"

Maybe if we wish and think and hope and pray it might come true...
Maybe then there wouldn't be a single thing that we can't do...

[moonbeam23]

50. Expect all you want

ain't gonna happen

[hurple]

52. I actually contemplated voting for Bernie...

Until I met his supporters.

And visiting here reminds me of that, every time.

[beltanefauve]

56. Cool story

[dorkzilla]

65. Yeah they were totes for realz gonna vote for him

But the big old Bernie meanies made me like totally barf so I'm voting for someone else. Nanernaner to you!

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[Databuser]

74. ~you~ made me HATE Hillary

Go Bernie!

[Gene Debs]

89. Yes, Bernie's horrible supporters. Silly troll.

[avaistheone1]

99. So Bernie's supporters bother you...

[Odin2005]

128. Cool story, bro!

[AtomicKitten]

53. As the saying goes

- sh#t in one hand and 'expect' in the other, and see which one fills up first.

http://www.smobserved.com/story/2016/06/05/news/fbi-hillary-clinton-to-face-criminal-indictment-for-email-abuse-very-soon/1334.html

[libdem4life]

86. I read this earlier...wasn't the Messenger Killed or something?

I'm so sorry we have to deal with what is in the one hand...because I fear it is already full and overflowing. It is a new saying I haven't heard. I can think of a lot of uses for it. Thanks.

[AtomicKitten]

96. ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2135528

[Steviehh]

54. Democrats became an exclusive party....

Having a hard time w/ vote counts. And chasing off potential democratic voters.

BIG mistake, Hillary.

Then Kissinger raised his ugly head and I can't vote for Hillary.

KISSINGER is consulting w/ H and O? No wonder drones are still killing civilians.

Sick of war!

[ThinkCritically]

55. "Clinton said that in 2008,

some supporters urged her to battle Barack Obama to the convention but noted that she decided to cede to Obama rather than fight because they shared similar policy goals and values."

Her policy goals and values are much different than Bernies.

[libdem4life]

87. And the SOS position was never mentioned? Hmmmm.

[passiveporcupine]

57. Obama had class (still does)

Obama and his advisers insist the event will stop short of a declaration that he has won the nomination. But it will be seen as another signal to superdelegates to climb aboard his bandwagon as quickly as possible.

The celebration, however, has rankled the Clinton campaign and the candidate herself. They see it as a highhanded effort to embarrass her and to generate renewed calls from others in the party for her to quit the race before anyone has achieved a genuine majority of pledged delegates and superdelegates.

In a signal of how fragile the detente between the two sides is, the Clinton campaign sent out a tart memo yesterday under the name of communications director Howard Wolfson calling the Obama rally in Iowa “a slap in the face of millions of voters in the remaining primary states and to Senator Clinton’s 17 million supporters.” Then, in language tying the Obama campaign to the Bush White House, the memo continues: “Premature victory laps and false declarations of victory are unwarranted. Declaring mission accomplished does not make it so.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-weigant/the-end-of-hillary-clinto_b_9791460.html

Seems the winds have changed for her again.

[PSPS]

58. DU needs a LBN-P forum.

[Kall]

62. It's pretty funny to me

that the Clinton campaign just flat-out spreads lies like that Bernie wants to dismantle Medicare, that he'll take health care away from millions of people, that his supporters threw chairs in a roomful of officers that resulted in no pictures, video, injuries or arrests, and puts out that *their* deliberate, considered strategic decision is to "disqualify him, and unite the party later" then goes around saying that they "expect" Bernie will unite the party. They seem to think it's Bernie's job to go around rebuilding bridges that Hillary Clinton consciously and reflectively decided to burn.

[msongs]

63. bernie is not a democratic he cares not about anything related to democrats nt

[eggplant]

105. There have been a lot of stupid things said on this thread. This is the stupidest. n/t

[ancianita]

146. His 93% voting record WITH Democrats proves you're wrong. Just wrong.

[Mona]

69. Been a Dem for nearly 40 years...

...and I keep trying to convince myself I could vote for Hillary over Trump, but I'm finding it really difficult to do. Articles like this pretty much guarantee that I won't be able to vote for her. She has no respect, and no integrity. What an effed up election this is going to be. I'll probably show up to vote down the ticket. For now, looking forward to *finally* casting my vote for Bernie on Tuesday.

[6000eliot]

92. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Sure you are a Dem.

[Mona]

114. ?????

Pretty silly reply. I'd be offended, but not worth the energy.

[elleng]

70. Not a joke, right?

She says he should do WHAT? Heckuva way to run a railroad, eh???

[Silver_Witch]

72. She can expect all she wishes.....

Just because Bernie says I should "line up behind Hillary" doesn't mean I am going to. Sorry - I march to my own drum - always have. always will.

There is no way in this beautiful world that I would vote for someone who promotes War; who does not believe in LGBT rights (in her heart wholly - you know not during campaigning); or who believes any child should be "brought to heel".

Those are just my TOP three reasons...I believe I have over 100 reasons not to vote for Hillary.

No more lesser of two evils for this Democratic Woman. Both Trump and Hillary are immoral.

[Herman4747]

139. Fine, thoughtful post. Welcome to DemocraticUnderground.

[urbuddha]

79. Satan would be better than Hillary. Bernie or Bust !

Never will vote for Hillary Clinton, EVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



She is for fracking which is poisoning our water. She supports GMO'S which are
poisoning our food supply. Franklin Delano Roosevelt said, "The nation that destroys
its soil, destroys itself."
F.D.R. is right and Hillary Clinton is dead wrong.
She is a notorious liar. Bernie has a long history of being trustworthy and steadfast.
However, I do hope he breaks his promise to support Hillary if she wins the nomination.
She stole the nomination by rigging elections throughout the country. Bernie could
beat Hillary and Donald if he runs as a third party candidate.
Hillary is a warmonger. She does not care how many of our children she kills.
Never Hillary, EVER !

[avaistheone1]

104. Hillary: Rest assured we will unite!!!

to support Bernie Sanders as our presidential nominee at the 2016 Democratic Convention.

[Gene Debs]

90. I'll hit my own d*ck with a hammer before I'll vote for Hillary Clinton. If she's the nominee

I'll write in Sanders.

[avaistheone1]

106. I'd say so too...

but I don't have one.

[Gene Debs]

109. That's okay. Everyone has something they can hit before they'll vote for Clinton!

[Wolf Frankula]

147. Donald Trump Thanks You for Your Vote

The anti-choice movement thanks you for your vote. Hispanic hating racists thank you for your vote. Paul Ryan thanks you for your vote.

Wolf

[Gene Debs]

150. Sorry. Not buying it. I will not be guilted into voting for a warmongering, job-killing TPP

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loving, gay-rights foot-dragging, private prison money-taking, frack-happy Wall street ass-kissing pathological liar. I'm beyond tired of this ridiculous bullshit canard, and I'm sure you know what you can do with your thanks.

[HeartoftheMidwest]

157. Point by point, let's consider:

1) "Anti-choice movement"........Ms. Clinton has signaled that she is willing to compromise on some aspects of abortion ( 2nd and 3rd trimester issues. ) Nothing like signaling to the anti-choice folks that your backing of Roe V. Wade is negotiable.

2)"Hispanic(s)".....Ms. Clinton has stated she sees no problem sending children and families fleeing the violence in South and Central America back into danger, because she doesn't want more people,fleeing violence, to head north. But she cares so much about Latinos that she carries hot sauce around in her purse.

3) "GOP and Paul Ryan"...the Clinton camp has already sent representatives out to talk to major GOP donors, and Wall Street has already lined up behind her. But then, her platform is and will be for the oligarchy.....

....not for us peons.

[beltanefauve]

162. "You're either

with us, or you're with. .."

Now where have I heard this before?

[Hekate]

93. That's a positive affirmation if I ever heard one. I think most In Real Life will, particularly if

...they have always been Democrats, or have voted D over R in November every 4 years.

In my long voting experience I've often seen my favorites fail to make it past the primaries -- but oddly enough no Democrat has ever caused me to hold my nose. Not when the alternative has been Nixon, Reagan, Bush 1, Bush 2. McCain, Trump....

First-timers, anarchists, total purists, the young and naive, bitter online denizens -- well, they may not come home to the Democratic Party if it was never their home in the first place. Some of the online folks may say we have to be nice or they won't vote for the nominee, but there are people who can't be persuaded, and sometimes we workers just have to cut our losses and move on.

Hillary is working heart and soul for us. It was she who brought a socialized medicine bill to Congress, not Sanders -- and the GOP crucified her for it. She was FLOTUS then. Did Bernie support her in that endeavor, or was it not good enough for him? Anyway, she's worked for the people all her life, and she's learned how to be effective.

[Zorro]

164. Great post

[highprincipleswork]

101. Not likely to happen, and folks like me definitely do not want it to happen. It is up to Hillary to

prove she can be a candidate that truly stands up for the Democratic (largely Progressive) principles that she has been copying from Bernie for so long now.

I wouldn't advise Bernie to move out, or to change his point of view that the final determination as to candidate will happen at the convention.

[Maedhros]

103. Oh, Hillary.

Nobody cares what you want.

[hopemountain]

108. except that sanders policies and platform

differs from yours, billary.no fracking, for instance, no pipelines such as keystone, no more wars, tpp & tpip, a living wage of $15, reigning in wall street, eliminating the privatized prisons, wars, rebuilding the nations infrastructure and creating jobs, on immigration, eliminating student debt and paying for public college and public university tuition with a higher tax on wall street speculation, no gmo's, etc., etc.

besides, we are in it to win it for bernie and for us. see you at the convention.

[99th_Monkey]

112. I expect Hillary to STFU until Philadelphia n/t

[cui bono]

116. Says the candidate who is under FBI investigation.

It doesn't get more surreal than this folks.

Talk about being out of touch. She's not only out of touch with the people, she's out of touch with reality. As is the right wing of the Dem Party. When has there ever been a candidate running for president who is under FBI investigation? What other person could be in this situation and not have the entire party call on them to step down?

They are so afraid of Bernie and his desire to take the govt back from the corporate masters and hand it back over to the people.

.

[pengu]

120. I like Sanders, I respect Sanders, but not even Bernie can get me to vote for Clinton

Especially after her disgusting campaign of lies and cheats.

[Android3.14]

121. You burned the Democratic Party, Ms. Veruca Salt

Thanks for nothin'.

[AntiBank]

125. Don't do it Bernie!! It's a trap!!!! :)

Go go go Bernie!!!! I

[marble falls]

126. As the nominee for the party why wouldn't he call for unity? I hope Hilllary will be a gracious ....

loser and support the ticket led by Bernie.

[Hoppy]

127. We must obey our queen.

[EdwardBernays]

129. Good luck

Real progressives will never support Hillary. We Sanders supporters won't give up our values because Bernie asks us too.

[Herman4747]

135. Dr. Jill Stein, then? n/t

[SamKnause]

130. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,

I EXPECT.

[JustAnotherGen]

132. It's not going to happen

[Javaman]

133. oh history you can be so inconvenient...

Obama Clinches Nomination; First Black Candidate to Lead a Major Party Ticket
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/04/us/politics/04elect.html


JUNE 4th, 2008

and yet, AND YET, hillary still went on to the convention.

so, hillary, which history to you wish to observe?

history is so inconvenient.

[Jester Messiah]

134. Well you go on and just keep expecting that, Clinton.

As for me, I shall merely expectorate.

[left-of-center2012]

144. She can 'expect' all she wants

I expect Bernie will do as he feels best.

[moondust]

161. Release the e-mails and the transcripts first. n/t

[alarimer]

173. And that is when I officially check out of this election

Not going to participate in any way. I'm done. I no longer care what happens.