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brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:55 PM Jun 2016

Trump Orders Surrogates to Intensify Criticism of Judge and Journalists

Source: Bloomberg

An embattled Donald Trump urgently rallied his most visible supporters to defend his attacks on a federal judge's Mexican ancestry during a conference call on Monday in which he ordered them to question the judge's credibility and impugn reporters as racists.

"We will overcome," Trump said, according to two supporters who were on the call and requested anonymity to share their notes with Bloomberg Politics. "And I’ve always won and I’m going to continue to win. And that’s the way it is."

There was no mention of apologizing or backing away from his widely criticized remarks about U.S. District Judge Gonzalo Curiel, who is overseeing cases against the Trump University real-estate program.

When former Arizona Governor Jan Brewer interrupted the discussion to inform Trump that his own campaign had asked surrogates to stop talking about the lawsuit in an e-mail on Sunday, Trump repeatedly demanded to know who sent the memo, and immediately overruled his staff.

"Take that order and throw it the hell out," Trump said.

Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-06-06/trump-orders-surrogates-to-intensify-criticism-of-judge-and-journalists

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Trump Orders Surrogates to Intensify Criticism of Judge and Journalists (Original Post) brooklynite Jun 2016 OP
This is the most Trumpalicous story ever nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #1
If this is true...then he is truly nuts.. Stuart G Jun 2016 #2
Lyin' Crooked Donald can kiss my a$$ jpak Jun 2016 #3
Tricky Donald Dick C_U_L8R Jun 2016 #4
I guess this is what "acting presidential" means PSPS Jun 2016 #5
I knew he would do this as soon as I heard louis-t Jun 2016 #6
If you don't think Trump is a fascist, then you aren't paying attention. dbackjon Jun 2016 #7
It's soooo obvious ..... reACTIONary Jun 2016 #53
Erica Freeman might want to resign since she's been thrown under the bus maxsolomon Jun 2016 #8
Over time, who's going to want to work on his campaign? brooklynite Jun 2016 #10
Trump is doubling down on being racist and stupid Gothmog Jun 2016 #9
Perhaps he will find bucolic_frolic Jun 2016 #22
Truly bizarre..... dawnie51 Jun 2016 #11
His campaign started off as a ploy to promote his businesses Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #21
Danger for Democrats kiri Jun 2016 #42
Good point dhol82 Jun 2016 #51
Okay. So the reporters are the racists. What does that even mean? n/t Tess49 Jun 2016 #12
I think it's a backhanded form of bucolic_frolic Jun 2016 #17
Very difficult to follow his thought processes. I never know which one of his Tess49 Jun 2016 #54
LOL bucolic_frolic Jun 2016 #56
So, a borderline personality/ narcissist with a sadistic streak. Great. His descent into Tess49 Jun 2016 #58
"I know you are, but what am I?" truthisfreedom Jun 2016 #39
A child under the age of five at that. n/t Tess49 Jun 2016 #55
I wonder how many of his surrogates will just quit. They would not want patricia92243 Jun 2016 #13
I honestly think "The Donald" must be bona fide, certifiable nuts. Vinca Jun 2016 #14
My guess has always been dementia caused by one or more small strokes. nt tblue37 Jun 2016 #49
Straight out the the fascist playbook. This guy wants to be Putin. Eugene Jun 2016 #15
LOL! Plucketeer Jun 2016 #48
Seems like the walls are closing in on him Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #16
I don't think he's going to be the nominee bucolic_frolic Jun 2016 #18
I would peg the odds at about 20% Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #23
Criticism is one thing..asking for censorship is another. DemMomma4Sanders Jun 2016 #19
And to think there was supposed to be a pivot. joshcryer Jun 2016 #20
Remember the night that Cruz dropped out Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #24
I always doubted the pivot crap. joshcryer Jun 2016 #25
I don't think he could if he wanted to Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #30
That was my argument as well. joshcryer Jun 2016 #31
I agree, I think they would care if he started acting like a normal person Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #33
Whenever his aides try to get control of the messaging, he counters their efforts and tblue37 Jun 2016 #50
Don the Con is truly a madman! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2016 #26
I'm reminded of Hitler in the bunker moving imaginary armies about on a map. Tal Vez Jun 2016 #27
Many of his antics remind me of that era. n/t RKP5637 Jun 2016 #28
Is this guy manic-depressive? ribrepin Jun 2016 #29
Maybe but I am guessing he has narcissistic personality disorder Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #32
So the Real Estate Swindler (tm) issued a fatwā ? jtuck004 Jun 2016 #34
Here is an interesting article on this subject: Tal Vez Jun 2016 #35
Great article! PJMcK Jun 2016 #45
Thank you for posting that link. Excellent background information. Shrike47 Jun 2016 #47
Counting strawberries. The Drump Mutiny. kairos12 Jun 2016 #36
Stupid fuckstick.... Aviation Pro Jun 2016 #37
Wait. I thought... PJMcK Jun 2016 #46
More popcorn please! Nt ecstatic Jun 2016 #38
I've thought he was mental for some time... ailsagirl Jun 2016 #40
Please proceed, Mr Trump. JBoy Jun 2016 #41
He is desperate randr Jun 2016 #43
This is his MO. Just keep on attacking and saying things that are outrageous. TomCADem Jun 2016 #57
But Mr. Trump, we has did what you told us to do... 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #44
He's trying to bait the judge into responding bluestateguy Jun 2016 #52

louis-t

(23,295 posts)
6. I knew he would do this as soon as I heard
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:05 PM
Jun 2016

other repugs were telling him to cool it. He has issues with authority-he thinks he IS the authority.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
8. Erica Freeman might want to resign since she's been thrown under the bus
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:06 PM
Jun 2016

Presumably she didn't WRITE the memo...

<Told the memo was sent by Erica Freeman, a staffer who circulates information to surrogates, Trump said he didn't know her. He openly questioned how the campaign could defend itself if supporters weren't allowed to talk.

"Are there any other stupid letters that were sent to you folks?" Trump said. "That's one of the reasons I want to have this call, because you guys are getting sometimes stupid information from people that aren't so smart.">

This shizz will def get the press to give him a fair shake:

<A clearly irritated Trump told his supporters to attack journalists who ask questions about the lawsuit and his comments about the judge.

"The people asking the questions—those are the racists," Trump said. "I would go at 'em.">

dawnie51

(959 posts)
11. Truly bizarre.....
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:10 PM
Jun 2016

I'm starting to wonder if this whole exercise was the conman attempting to subvert the system regarding all his nefarious business dealings, and the subsequent legal proceedings that seem to follow him. This is becoming more about his own personal problems and less and less about the election.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
21. His campaign started off as a ploy to promote his businesses
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:40 PM
Jun 2016

He would then use the title "Former Presidential Candidate" on all of his hotel brochures and real estate marketing. Instead, the GOP base fell in love with his racist tirades and he was thrust into a position that he never planned on actually being in. He probably thought that he could just wing it in the general election and people would fall in love with him. Instead he has an increasingly weary media beginning to question him, a lukewarm reception from the GOP, and the democrats quickly ratcheting up their criticism. All of this is damaging his grossly over-inflated and very weak ego. He essentially stumbled into one of the most stressful situations anyone could put themselves in, running as a major party candidate for president, and he has no clue what to do or how to escape. He has only be the presumptive republican nominee for a few weeks and he already looks like he is at the breaking point.

Look at this story from NBC, from today. His campaign is a two bit operation run by a very inexperienced and incompetent skeleton crew, and it already seems to be in ruins. Without hyperbole, they have no money, no fundraising apparatus, no GOTV operation, no field offices, no communication department, and almost no one working for them. You could likely run his current campaign out of a small studio apartment. He is either far more incompetent than is humanly possible or he doesn't really care about winning (maybe both).

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/donald-trump-does-not-have-campaign

kiri

(794 posts)
42. Danger for Democrats
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:09 PM
Jun 2016

If Trump is dissed too much or he screws up too much, he might wait until after the convention--when he is the official nominee--and then resign/quit.

This contingency is provided for in law, to deal with a case where the candidate dies or is incapacitated.
Then the RNC meets to decide who the replacement will be. There will be no new convention and obviously no new primaries.

The RNC could nominate anyone. But they will choose someone with wide name recognition, likely one of the other candidates. Rubio, Kasich, even Jeb are possible. Hillary's campaign would face a major challenge. Trump will be easy to defeat, and Dems get down-ballot help. But it would be a whole new campaign without Trump.

bucolic_frolic

(43,183 posts)
17. I think it's a backhanded form of
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:26 PM
Jun 2016

he who is not with me is against me

But who can read the tea leaves in his hair?

Tess49

(1,580 posts)
54. Very difficult to follow his thought processes. I never know which one of his
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 10:00 PM
Jun 2016

multiple personalities is doing the talking.

bucolic_frolic

(43,183 posts)
56. LOL
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 10:08 PM
Jun 2016

some of the personality types run together predictably

Narcissistic for example, in extreme forms, often has a sadistic element

also borderline often occurs with narcissism. Borderline described in the book
"I hate you, don't leave me".

Attention seekers are often histrionic, acting things out in animated fashion.

Someone on here pointed out that narcissists often change their minds, reverse course,
say contradictory things in one sentence or at different times ... and haven't a clue
of the duality. And I concur on that, based on a couple I know.

So there is rich orange material there!

Tess49

(1,580 posts)
58. So, a borderline personality/ narcissist with a sadistic streak. Great. His descent into
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:45 AM
Jun 2016

full mental decompensation cannot come soon enough for me.

patricia92243

(12,597 posts)
13. I wonder how many of his surrogates will just quit. They would not want
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:12 PM
Jun 2016

this mess to reflect on them. They have to live with their family and neighbors.

Eugene

(61,900 posts)
15. Straight out the the fascist playbook. This guy wants to be Putin.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:15 PM
Jun 2016

This also shows that Trump has absolutely no self control and
cannot take advice from anyone who knows better.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
16. Seems like the walls are closing in on him
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:26 PM
Jun 2016

He is becoming very isolated and weird(er). I think the stress of the campaign is quickly getting to him. Don't be surprised if they soon find him in a bunker,talking about non-existent campaign offices and fundraisers that never happened.

bucolic_frolic

(43,183 posts)
18. I don't think he's going to be the nominee
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:35 PM
Jun 2016

but then I never thought that

He is imploding

Granted the GOP and Tea Party are against everything that doesn't agree with them

but what sane political party is going to sail into an election with a candidate that advocates
upending the judiciary for his every whim and tantrum? It's a recipe for chaos as more and more
people get on the train. It's Nixon's Saturday Night Massacre without even holding office.

It's not going to happen.

HRC timed her Trump speech perfectly. Or ... the two parties are talking.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
23. I would peg the odds at about 20%
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:47 PM
Jun 2016

A month or two ago, I would have said he absolutely wants to be president but there have been more and more stories coming out that make it sound like he isn't even trying win. I posted this elsewhere in this thread but this NBC article says that his campaign essentially doesn't exist. He doesn't have the hundreds or thousands of staffers and volunteers, and all of the machinery that takes a few years to get fully operational hasn't even been implemented yet. It is just Trump and a few people of his very inexperienced advisers running the entire thing. He could shut down his entire campaign by unplugging a webcam and canceling his office's landline service.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/donald-trump-does-not-have-campaign

I still think it is more likely than not that he will keep flailing around like a fish on land until november when he finally just packs it in and goes home but I think the odds of him bailing before or right after the convention are getting better.

 

DemMomma4Sanders

(274 posts)
19. Criticism is one thing..asking for censorship is another.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:37 PM
Jun 2016

Leave the journalists alone. If they're incorrect or slanderous sue them, otherwise don't be a bully

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
24. Remember the night that Cruz dropped out
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:52 PM
Jun 2016

and the media was fawning over him for having a "very presidential press conference" and claiming that he were going to "start seeing a new Donald Trump." I think that lasted about 8 hours until he used a racial slur or threw a rock at a reporter or something. If anything he seems to be more erratic and unhinged than he was during the primaries.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
25. I always doubted the pivot crap.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:54 PM
Jun 2016

And of course there's still time for it, but it is looking increasingly unlikely. Which bodes very well for the Democrat.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
30. I don't think he could if he wanted to
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:00 PM
Jun 2016

He has very significant personality problems. This is just who he is and he isn't just going to suddenly be a different person. He likely sees absolutely nothing wrong with his behavior and he will probably fire anyone that tells him differently.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
31. That was my argument as well.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:05 PM
Jun 2016

People were like "his fans wouldn't care," but I argued that he would care about how he was seen. That's one reason I don't see him stepping down unless by chance his poll numbers drop to 20% or some crap. He won't accept anything else but that he's a winner.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
33. I agree, I think they would care if he started acting like a normal person
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:09 PM
Jun 2016

They love him because they mistake his erratic and ignorant behavior for "telling it like it is". The problem of course is that he scares the living shit out of the 75% of us that aren't republicans.

tblue37

(65,408 posts)
50. Whenever his aides try to get control of the messaging, he counters their efforts and
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 08:09 PM
Jun 2016

then doubles down on his message mistakes because he truly believes he doesn't make mistakes.

ribrepin

(1,726 posts)
29. Is this guy manic-depressive?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:00 PM
Jun 2016

I have some in my family and when they get going, they sound a lot like Trump. The most beautiful, smartest winners in the world. Nobody can even suggest they might want to slow down. Of course the crash isn't pretty.

They will periodically decide to go off their melds.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
32. Maybe but I am guessing he has narcissistic personality disorder
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:07 PM
Jun 2016

My expertise is not in severe mental health problems but my best guess is NPD. People with this condition are known to get very aggressive and even violent if something threatens their grossly over-inflated sense of self worth. They are very full of themselves but also dangerously insecure. I had a colleague that treated a patient with narcissistic personality disorder a few years back. He said she was one of the most difficult and erratic people he has ever dealt with. And that may very well be the personality of our Republican nominee. Great.....


It certainly is possible that he has more than one thing going on in that badly comb-overed noggin of his but it would likely be secondary to what we are seeing on a daily basis.

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
45. Great article!
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:22 PM
Jun 2016

Thanks for posting the link Tal Vez. It's an informative and well articulated explanation of why Mr. Trump's comments outside of the court won't help his cases before Judge Curiel.

Aviation Pro

(12,172 posts)
37. Stupid fuckstick....
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:45 PM
Jun 2016

...is Fuckstick McFuckstickface. This is what an implosion looks like.

Get your crazy on McFuckstick.

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
46. Wait. I thought...
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:26 PM
Jun 2016

... Fuckstick McFuckstickface was the Majority Leader in the Senate, Dickhead "Little Eddie" McShitface is the Speaker of the House and the presumptive Republican nominee is Asshole "Little Hands" McAssface.

But I could be wrong.

randr

(12,412 posts)
43. He is desperate
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:17 PM
Jun 2016

There must be criminal activities about to be presented. That would be why he throws "criminal Hillary" out as often as he does. He is merely trying to remove a stain.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
57. This is his MO. Just keep on attacking and saying things that are outrageous.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:34 AM
Jun 2016

There is no such thing as bad publicity. Afterall, the more racist and insane he has acted, the higher his poll numbers go.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
52. He's trying to bait the judge into responding
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 08:24 PM
Jun 2016

So that when he does, he would claim that that proves the judge is biased, and that his case should be moved to another court.

I don't think the judge will fall for it.

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