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MowCowWhoHow III

(2,103 posts)
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:52 PM Jun 2016

'Cold-Blooded Mowing' of Victims Seen in Surveillance Video From Pulse Nightclub

Source: ABC News

Federal authorities have recovered video from security cameras inside Orlando's Pulse nightclub that shows shooter Omar Mateen firing his assault rifle and systematically killing innocent victims, sources told ABC News.

The violence depicted in the video can only be described as "cold-blooded mowing, walking through the rooms mowing people down," one source said.

Sources characterized the video -- pulled from cameras deployed in multiple rooms of the nightclub -- as chilling and unnerving. The video portrays Mateen as a relentless assassin, reloading his weapon more than once as he murdered his victims.

The video could prove critical in helping law enforcement understand precisely how the killing took place.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/ABCNews/cold-blooded-mowing-victims-surveillance-video-pulse-nightclub/story?id=39942771

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'Cold-Blooded Mowing' of Victims Seen in Surveillance Video From Pulse Nightclub (Original Post) MowCowWhoHow III Jun 2016 OP
This is the problem with private citizens owning semi-automatic weapons. yardwork Jun 2016 #1
I wonder if this footage will be released for the public to see? HarmonyRockets Jun 2016 #2
It will get out somehow Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #3
I think it should be released... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2016 #14
Again, violence is the new porn Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #15
I don't know if I'd say "new" HarmonyRockets Jun 2016 #20
If my family was in there, I wouldnt want it released. 7962 Jun 2016 #4
this video will be a big hit among millions of people nt msongs Jun 2016 #5
They'll be crowing about the fast-reload capacity. Aristus Jun 2016 #7
I don't want to see it LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #6
It will certainly discredit the NRA's "good guy with a gun" theory. Initech Jun 2016 #8
What did they expect passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #17
It probably would have been nearly impossible to stop him toshiba783 Jun 2016 #23
Violence is the new porn... sanatanadharma Jun 2016 #9
No one in this thread discusses the evidence the article speaks of all the comments are about Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #10
Will it ever be released? It's not as though there will be a trial csziggy Jun 2016 #12
make it public, show the gun doing what it was designed to do, kill mass numbers of human beings geek tragedy Jun 2016 #11
People watch movies depicting the same thing Mojorabbit Jun 2016 #21
They think little or nothing of it because they know it's staged ... brett_jv Jun 2016 #24
I can't believe I feel this way--but I support releasing the video DonRedwood Jun 2016 #13
There is a serious risk passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #18
This is a good point. The guy has already gotten too much attention. Ash_F Jun 2016 #22
Make it mandatory viewing when purchasing a Semi-Automatic Weapon. All 2 hours. maxsolomon Jun 2016 #16
I seriously doubt that would affect anyone passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #19
 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
14. I think it should be released...
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 05:42 PM
Jun 2016

the people need to see what havoc is being reeked by our lax gun laws. Seeing footage of the Viet Nam war helped to end it, and now the military will not allow such footage to be release, because it sways opinion in a way the war mongers don't like.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
15. Again, violence is the new porn
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 05:48 PM
Jun 2016

It will horrify people who oppose gun control and be laughed at by ammosexuals.

When children were slaughtered we, as a country, shrugged.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
4. If my family was in there, I wouldnt want it released.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 04:20 PM
Jun 2016

We all know what happened.
Of course theres always those who say there was more than one shooter. For them, even if you release the video they'll say its fake

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
7. They'll be crowing about the fast-reload capacity.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 04:52 PM
Jun 2016

And renewing their daydreams that someday, somone will break into their house, and they can unload, Rambo-style, on them...

LoverOfLiberty

(1,438 posts)
6. I don't want to see it
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 04:51 PM
Jun 2016

but it might give us some idea why, during reload, there was no around that could stop him.

Initech

(100,081 posts)
8. It will certainly discredit the NRA's "good guy with a gun" theory.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 04:56 PM
Jun 2016

There's no way any civilian could have stopped that with any kind of gun.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
17. What did they expect
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 09:20 PM
Jun 2016

Of course he mowed them down. It's the only way he couldn't be stopped. And reloading with a magazine takes seconds if he practiced it. And I'm sure he did.

This is not news, and I hope it doesn't get released to the public. It will only encourage more attacks like this.

toshiba783

(74 posts)
23. It probably would have been nearly impossible to stop him
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 02:48 PM
Jun 2016

Wasn't he wearing ceramic plated body armor (which can withstand significant gunfire)?

sanatanadharma

(3,707 posts)
9. Violence is the new porn...
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 05:04 PM
Jun 2016

...but one still has to go looking for it online.

Daesh shit never pops up on my computer and I don't look for it.

Looking for shit shows the preexisting condition of already being a radically shitty human being.
GIGO One is what one eats!

Sadly, there are armed misanthropes* around who shove their sick selves on civilized society and so some sweet souls see other souls shot up in schools
Stores
Clubs
Classrooms
Work spaces
Play spaces
Chicago, Des Moines
Shall I keep going

*Fascination with weapons People ought be like this NOT this



 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
10. No one in this thread discusses the evidence the article speaks of all the comments are about
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 05:21 PM
Jun 2016

how someday in the future this evidence will get out of Federal hands and be widely watched. Anything but discuss the actual crime, that's DU's tactic.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
12. Will it ever be released? It's not as though there will be a trial
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 05:32 PM
Jun 2016

In which case it would become part of the public record. Does evidence in a case that does not go to trial ever have to come out.

It should be studied by those who need to understand this sort event so they can try to prevent things like it in the future. But there is no compelling reason (in my opinion) that this video should ever be made public for sick people to obsess over.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
11. make it public, show the gun doing what it was designed to do, kill mass numbers of human beings
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 05:30 PM
Jun 2016

people only see these guns in action when they're at firing ranges or in movies.

show the truth, show the innocent human beings being slaughtered because that weapon was doing exactly what it's supposed to do.

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
21. People watch movies depicting the same thing
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 02:03 PM
Jun 2016

and think nothing of it. We have glorified violence enough in this country. Let these people rest in peace.

brett_jv

(1,245 posts)
24. They think little or nothing of it because they know it's staged ...
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 06:26 AM
Jun 2016

I've watched countless gory scenes in horror movies with absurd levels of violence, and at the end of the day it's just entertainment ... because I know it's fake. All those people went home at the end of the day.

Yet I remember having to leave the theater and go sit in the bathroom, afraid I was going to throw up, when I watched Born on the 4th of July .. when Cruise's Vietnam Vet character falls when trying to get up from his wheelchair and suffers a compound femur fracture, and they show the bone ripped through his pants.

WHY? Even though I knew what I was watching wasn't 'real' in the technical sense, I knew 'it really happened'. And that was enough to make the scene hit me like a ton of bricks, despite having seen 1000's of WAY gorier things in my movie-going life.

If it was ACTUALLY real, what I was watching? Holy crap ...

I'm not saying 'release the video' but if it DID get released, and it was 'detailed'? It would have a pretty major impact on the vast majority of people seeing it. Yeah, we're desensitized to FAKE violence, but the real thing? A LOT of people haven't actually seen all that much of it in their lives.

IOW, there's still a LOT of people who'd 'think something of it', believe me.

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
13. I can't believe I feel this way--but I support releasing the video
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 05:38 PM
Jun 2016

Which I realize is cruel and heartbreaking to the families. But I listened to that snapchat post from a young lady in the club and just hearing the speed of the shooting--15 or 16 shots in just a few seconds--put the terror of that night into perspective. If the public had to watch what those weapons really do they would not want them on their streets. Why should the government protect us from seeing what our policies are doing to people? Instead the media shows the shooter in his own selfies--the pictures that he thought were his best shots, where he looked his best. Maybe we need to see that action and not the person for a change.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
18. There is a serious risk
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 09:25 PM
Jun 2016

that even if those of us who are sane are horrified by it, those who are wanting to follow in his footsteps to even greater glory, will be inspired by it. I don't think it should be released. It would be like porn to those who are inspired, and they will watch it until they decide they can do better. It will be a challenge to them to take out even more next time.

No...please for dogs sake, don't release it.

Even if we pass an assault weapon ban, there are too many already out there and they will find them.

We don't have a registry to try to collect them all.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
16. Make it mandatory viewing when purchasing a Semi-Automatic Weapon. All 2 hours.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 06:04 PM
Jun 2016

Or applying for a CC Permit.

Like, say, a video detailing the more visceral aspects of Abortion that is mandatory viewing for women seeking that medical procedure.

I don't see how that would infringe on one's RKBA.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
19. I seriously doubt that would affect anyone
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 09:26 PM
Jun 2016

who wants to buy that kind of a weapon. They already have problems to think they need a gun like that.

OK...I have one condition in which it might be OK. For each person wanting a gun like that, the video has to be modified so the faces of the victims are faces of his/her immediate family/loved ones.

Then...maybe then it would make them think twice...but I doubt it.

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