Iranian military official: We have 100,000 missiles in Lebanon ready to hit Israel
Source: JPost
According to Hossein Salami, deputy commander of the IRGC, "the opportunity to destroy Israel is now better than ever."
President Hassan Rouhani said the last years nuclear deal was the cheapest way to achieve Irans goals and interests.
Speaking in Tehran on Saturday at an iftar meal breaking the Ramadan fast, Rouhani said the pre-Iran nuclear-deal era is past and Iran now needs to take advantage of the new atmosphere to pursue its national interests more than before, Irans Islamic Republic News Agency reported.
Read more: http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Iranian-military-official-We-have-100000-missiles-in-Lebanon-ready-to-hit-Israel-459350
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)And they made the entire country of Lebanon human shields.
This is going to end badly.
(That assumes the JP is a reasonably honest broker of information.)
Igel
(35,317 posts)In the context of "100,000" the word "missile" has the contextual meaning "boxes of candy," and to "annihilate" means "win the hearts and minds of."
Of course, one way to make something vanish from the pages of history is to make it vanish and be forgotten.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #1)
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former9thward
(32,016 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)I wonder what would happen if we had a year where there were NO attacks on Israelis and NO rockets fired at them and if they stopped calling for the total elimination of Israel?
Maybe they'd finally get their own state. Even public opinion for it inside Israel rises when there is a lull in attacks. But they ALWAYS end up ruining it by starting up again.
Hey, maybe Jordan could kick in a few sq miles for them too, right? Since they were part of the original partition just like Israel?
But as long as they continue to attack civilians & encourage others to do the same; and elect terrorists as their leaders, they'll continue to get the short end of the stick. Tough shit.
King_David
(14,851 posts)Where do you get this shit from?
What's clear is your deep seated problem you have with the Jewish state - that's clear.
vkkv
(3,384 posts)We all KNEW that would be coming..
7962
(11,841 posts)Because if it wasnt true, then Jordan would also be asked to give land to them.
They never are.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)TrollBuster9090
(5,954 posts)1982, anyone? It's a time-honored racket.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_Lebanon_War
forest444
(5,902 posts)and C) brain farts like those give the pro-war crimes, hard-line crowd in Israel the best political fodder anyone can imagine.
Nice going, Salami. In some countries, that's slang for 'stupid' - and now I see why.
still_one
(92,204 posts)of course is that Iran knows damn well whether they attack Israel directly or indirectly, they will have a whole level of hurt thrown at them. Another reason why that is not going to happen is because it is neither in the interest of Iran or Israel to have such an engagement
forest444
(5,902 posts)BlueNoMatterWho
(880 posts)forest444
(5,902 posts)But if they're right, let's remember that it would be their fight - not ours.
BlueNoMatterWho
(880 posts)Hundreds of rockets/missiles launched simultaneously would overwhelm the platform. I agree it would be their fight. Unfortunately, the fight wouldn't be pretty and tactical nuclear weapons could be deployed by Israel in this scenario to defend its population from such a mass attack.
forest444
(5,902 posts)They must know as well as anyone that Israel's defensive capabilities, while they may have some weaknesses, are second to none in the Middle East.
We should know; we paid for'em.
TrollBuster9090
(5,954 posts)His comments were meant for domestic consumption. Iran, like Israel, and like the United States has a small but energetic rump of reactionary, warlike crackpots, whose beliefs must be appeased with rhetoric. It also helps the current Iranian government to be seen as keeping them at bay. So, the same thing happens there as happens in any other country. The politicians decide what they're going to do, and then they organize how they're going to stage-manage it. Who's going to speak out against the nuclear deal, who's going to speak for it, and who's going to get to play the part of the rational moderates.
MisterFred
(525 posts)Seems to me like they feed off each other politically.
annominous
(68 posts)getting worked up about this. Might just be some blow hard, or possibly it's political propaganda intended to rile up the trumpites. I do not believe that the treaty with Iran had such a big blind spot that a move like this could not be addressed. But in this election year, if the threat turns out to be credible, the American (POTUS Obama's) response will be draconian and full of drones.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Since the 2nd Lebanon War (2006) they have been building their deterrent up with better stuff. Since the entire surrounding region is at war, and awash military stuff, more being added as we speak, it's hard to implement effective arms control.
Hezbollah has been getting a lot of battlefield experience in Syria too, but they are small and risk getting caught in the middle between Iran, Russia, and Israel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Lebanon_War
vkkv
(3,384 posts)to have to filter through all of the thick propaganda of their far-right government and media.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)The bullshit headlines are another story.
Israel has merely stated that if you're going to attack them, they WILL destroy you wherever you attack from. The difference is that the Islamists intentionally target civilian establishments in Israel instead of attacking the Israeli military. Look back at the last several attacks; ALL civilians. NONE anywhere near what would be considered a military installation.
Until they stop hiding behind civilians, civilians will get killed. And it will be Hizbullah/Hamas/etc fault, not Israel's
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)Most Palestinian attacks are targeted at IDF soldiers by civilians in the occupied West Bank, even though such attacks are considered legitimate under international law, Palestinians who commit them are always refereed to as terrorists. Rarely are routine attacks by Israeli Jews against Palestinians labeled as acts of terrorism.
The IDF has its own military installations well embedded in civilian neighborhoods. Both Hamas and the IDF have been accused of using Palestinians as human shields.
http://www.alternet.org/world/how-israel-used-its-own-civilians-human-shields-while-assaulting-gaza
BunkieBandit
(82 posts)Is it on paper ?
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)the Israeli occupation is illegal under international law, and in blatant violation of it, specifically articles applying to belligerent occupation and the treatment of protected persons under the Fourth Geneva Accords. Israeli conduct is so egregious that it constitutes possible war crimes. Such behavior naturally releases the civilian population of the occupied territories from any obligation not to retaliate against the invaders.
7962
(11,841 posts)And when Israeli Jews attack palestinian civilians they actually get arrested. The palestinians throw a parade for theirs. The Israeli military even recently arrested a soldier for shooting a palestinian, even though he was involved in an attack.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)are against IDF personnel. It's a fact whether you like it or not. If you're referring to the medic who executed a wounded and defenseless attacker in violation of both the laws of war and IDF terms of engagement, he had it coming. They had to arrest him because the stupid bastard was recorded doing it and the whole world saw him do it.
7962
(11,841 posts)This year alone, most attacks by far have been against obvious civilian targets.
Not to mention the THOUSANDS of rocket attacks that rarely, if ever, target military sites.
But you can excuse the terrorists if you like
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)that the majority of incidents of physical violence are between Palestinians and Israeli security forces.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/world/israel-palestine-deaths/
Those thousands of primitive rockets also rarely kill Israelis. Carpet bombing Gaza, using advanced weapons in 2014 managed to kill 2500 people, and wound thousands more, most of whom were non-combatants. Mowing the grass also destroyed 11,000 homes, also schools, businesses, hospitals, water sanitation facilities and power plants (military targets all). Of the nearly 5,000 rockets supposedly fired at Israel, about 700 were intercepted. The thosuands more that landed managed to kill 6 Israelis and do about $11 million in Property damage. Remember, Israel has the right to defend itself, the other guys, not so much.
7962
(11,841 posts)And there was no carpet bombing. Do you even know what that really looks like? If there was REAL carpet bombing, Gaza would have been totally leveled. The terrorists always attack from civilian areas, making them targets. And the fact that the rockets didnt kill many people means there shouldnt be any retaliation? The whole reason Gaza was hit was because of the rocket fire. When you start it, you cant call it "defending yourself"
the palestinians could end all of it if they wanted to, but they'd rather continue to support the leaders & attitudes that put them in the situation they're in
Why the hell should Israel give 2 shits about a group who constantly call for their total destruction?
How about hamas, Hizbullah, et al, announce that they'll stop planning & carrying out attacks on Israel? They can have their state if they'd just act like the rest of the world. Why dont they attack Jordan? Jordan was cut from the same cloth as Israel. because its THE JEWS they see as the problem. They teach it in their schools. So they live with the consequences.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)accept the right of Israel to exist and promise not to fight anymore, Israel will lift it's stranglehold on Gaza, leave the West Bank, take its illegal settlers with it and allow the Palestinians to govern themselves in their own country without interference from Tel Aviv? I'm all for that. When do we start? Israel might even want to pay reparations of the hundreds of thousands of people it drove from their homes and for all the massacres it committed in 1948. That would be a nice gesture, but I wouldn't insist upon it.
I shouldn't have called what Israel did to Gaza carpet bombing. They leveled every structure in entire neighborhoods with marvelous precision. That's much more effective than carpet bombing, and you can't accuse people who launch such pinpoint destruction of being careless or indiscriminate
7962
(11,841 posts)Many left on their own in anticipation of the war, others were told to leave while the Arab world rid the area of the Jews, then they could come back and return to their homes. Plan didnt quite work out that way. Therefore, if any "reparations" are to be paid, maybe it should come from the rich Arab countries who initiated most of it.
And again, why shouldnt Jordan contribute some land to the palestinians as well? Make it a larger state? Modern Jordan was formed at the same time, yet they are always left out of a '2 state solution". Why? I bet if Jews populated Jordan, they'd certainly be called on to leave "palestinian" lands as well.
But its a pipe dream, as the palestinians seem to prefer continuous victimhood over actual progress. Arafat could have had it during the 1st Clinton administration, but he walked away.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)they'd lived in and land they'd lived on for centuries because their leaders told them to and not because of ethnic cleansing and massacres precipitated by the Haganah, the Lehi and the Irgun, and certainly not because they heard of a place called Deir Yassin and other places like it.
Jordan isn't occupying the West Bank, nor has it sent thousands of settlers to confiscate Palestinian land. In spite of that, if Israel has no obligation to take Palestinians into Israel or return their land, Jordan, which has done none of these things, certainly has none.
"Why? I bet if Jews populated Jordan, they'd certainly be called on to leave "palestinian" lands as well." Of course they would. Jews would have no more business populating Jordan than they do the West Bank.
Everything is the Palestinians fault: the occupation, the settler invasion, all of it. In the world of Hasbara Israeli Jews are the only victims and Palestinians are implacable perpetrators of terrorism against them just because they are Jews. History does not support that narrative. If you believe it, I have some nice real estate to sell you in the arctic.
7962
(11,841 posts)Jews have as much right to be where they are as Jordanians have to be where they are. Jews were there thousands of years ago. there was never an official state of palestine, as confirmed by palestinian leaders at that time. Loosely associated groups not even totaling a million is all that were there.
Sure, there WERE killings of palestinians during the initial partition; no excuse for that. But the vast majority DID leave on their own and history supports it. Otherwise ALL arabs would have been sent out of Israel. But they werent and thousands have lived there ever since.
Its up to the palestinians. Always has been. they prefer violence over peace. Maybe one day they'll tire of it; till then they live as they've chosen with the leaders they've chosen
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)All they have to do is accept their status as subject people or leave and everything will be fine. What is truly laughable is the notion that some guy from Europe shows up on your doorstep and says the home you've lived in for generations belongs to him, and you have no right to defend it because you aren't part of a recognized nation, and you have to move on because his tribal god gave the land to his ancestors thousands of years ago and he's there to reclaim it. It is a credit to pro-Israeli propaganda in the US that a majority of the populace swallows such nonsense. Despite all of that I am happy there is an Israel. I will be a strong supporter of it when it ends its occupation of the West Bank and East Jerusalem, removes its settlements, lifts its stranglehold on Gaza, and returns to its pre-1967 boarders. That lets it keep the land it took in the 1948 war and does not include a right of return for Palestinian refugees, although it would be a great moral victory and go a long way toward healing if Israel finally did something to help those people . It's up to the Israelis.
7962
(11,841 posts)sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)range called Gaza, I'd teach the kids to fight back too. The Hasbara claiming that Israel is nothing but an innocent victim of its victims never ceases to amaze me. It is even more amazing that anyone believes it.
7962
(11,841 posts)You call parading children around with armed terrorists "teaching them to fight back"? And all the videos of children proudly proclaiming how they want to "stab a Jew"? All encouraged by the adults.
If a missile blew that truck up, you'd probably say Israel killed an innocent child, wouldnt you?
No one I know excuses everything Israel does. But many times they DO arrest their own people for attacking arabs. The Palestinians throw parades for theirs
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)in the process (s)he is declared a 'blessed martyr", the family celebrates and then receives a juicy pension from the PA.
7962
(11,841 posts)MariaThinks
(2,495 posts)olddad56
(5,732 posts)COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)ally in the entire Middle East - Israel.
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7962
(11,841 posts)But I guess you feel as though the Arab nations surrounding Israel are much more reliable? Especially to Dems? Funny, most Jewsih votes go Democrat!
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)had a defense treaty with the US. When did that happen?
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)a precondition to being an ally. But thanks for playing.
MariaThinks
(2,495 posts)vkkv
(3,384 posts)Giving press to the crazies of the Iranian government only feeds the far-right paranoids of Israel. This article is not unlike the planted stories of BushCo leading up to the War On Iraq. There are millions of Iranian national who want no war with Israel nor trouble in the M.East.
Meanwhile, Israel keeps invading former Palestian lands.. nice.
TrollBuster9090
(5,954 posts)Even 'annexation' would be too politically incorrect. Maybe Trump is right after all? We ARE to politically correct.
TrollBuster9090
(5,954 posts)Please. The JPost is Isreal's version of The Washington Times.
vkkv
(3,384 posts)to look for some reciprocity."
Netanyahu may try to be more subtle this time to avoid risking damaging relations with Hillary Clinton in case shes the next president. But he will be under great pressure from his and Trumps mutual investor, Adelson.
Netanyahu makes no secret of his longstanding preference for Republicans, but the erratic and volatile Trump is no Romney, who virtually promised to contract out US Middle East policy to the Israeli leader.
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Washington-Watch-Will-Netanyahu-endorse-Trump-456283
- - - WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP, SAD THING IS - IT'S TRUE !!!
vkkv
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7962
(11,841 posts)They could put an end to the whole problem, but yet they still demand the total removal of Israel.
Wont happen. And they'll continue to live as they do.
The people in Venezuela figured out after 16 years that THEIR "leaders" have ruined their living, and they're doing something about it. The palestinians keep backing the same losing team for 50 yrs and bitch about the results.
TrollBuster9090
(5,954 posts)If you're looking for fanatics to blame for the lack of sensible peace proposals, try looking at the people who gun down Israeli politicians who propose them. Rabin might be a good person to ask.
7962
(11,841 posts)And until the palestinians give up celebrating terror attacks, their number likely wont diminish. If they were a peaceful lot, the bulk of the Israeli population would force that radical bunch underground & away from any power
Mosby
(16,317 posts)Mosby
(16,317 posts)Midnight Writer
(21,768 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)Iraq had a strong tank force - Iran specifically asked for TOWs to counter those tanks.