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El Al plane intercepted by Swiss Forces (Original Post) nitpicker Jul 2016 OP
What Swiss forces? bluestateguy Jul 2016 #1
Their air force flies both F-18 and F-5 fighters. Angleae Jul 2016 #2
You bet they do! BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #7
I thought they only protected the Pope. sdfernando Jul 2016 #14
LOL - they do that, yes. BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #15
A considerable one jberryhill Jul 2016 #10
Their Aerobatics team is one of the best in the world Blue_Tires Jul 2016 #16
Link to confirming story nitpicker Jul 2016 #3
Wow - my sister's good friend and leftynyc Jul 2016 #4
If a bomb is on the El Al flight ... left-of-center2012 Jul 2016 #5
Dunno: Supersonic Boom! Helen Borg Jul 2016 #6
That Was My RobinA Jul 2016 #9
You need to be more cold blooded. Igel Jul 2016 #11
They may control some of the threat to populated areas. Sadly, they Yo_Mama Jul 2016 #12
The fighters are there to shoot down the airline so that ManiacJoe Jul 2016 #17
Here is some more information ... BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #8
Thanks for the update. n/t Yo_Mama Jul 2016 #13

BlueMTexpat

(15,370 posts)
15. LOL - they do that, yes.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:33 AM
Jul 2016

But that is a special force - not part of the regular military. They originally began as Swiss mercenaries. http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/swiss_guard/swissguard/storia_en.htm


To know more we must go back to the period of the Renaissance and discover the motives that in 1506 caused Pope Julius II to invite to Rome the Helvetian soldiers, renowned for their courage, noble sentiments and loyalty. Many centuries earlier the great Latin historian, Tacitus, had said: "The Helvetians are a people of warriors, famous for the valour of their soldiers." This is why the Swiss Cantons, as allies first with one side and then with another, played such an important role in the history of European politics. In fact as allies of Pope Julius II in 1512 they helped to shape Italy's destiny and were granted by the Pope the title of "Defenders of the Church's freedom". In those times, when to be a mercenary soldier was a commonplace occupation, there lived a people of warriors in the very heart of the Alps. The first Swiss Cantons had about 500,000 inhabitants and formed an overpopulated country, where, because of the precarious economic conditions of the times, there was much poverty. There was no choice but to emigrate and one of the most profitable jobs was that of a mercenary soldier abroad.

There were some 15,000 men available for this type of work which was "organized" and controlled by the small Confederation of Cantons. The Confederation authorized the enlistment of the men and in return received corn, salt, or other commercial goods. The men themselves regarded this warring as a temporary period of summer emigration. They took part in brief but glorious wars and then returned home with the "pay" and the booty, to spend the winter. They were the best troops of those times. Without cavalry and with little artillery, they had invented a tactic of movement that was superior to all others. Therefore they were in great demand both by France and by Spain. They were similar to a semimobile rampart, standing tall and impenetrable, and it is impossible to understand the Italian Wars without taking these mercenaries into account. Already in the 13th and 14th centuries, after the Swiss Cantons had become independent, many of their men were fighting in Germany and Italy and as the Cantons were unable to prevent this type of emigration, they sought at least to organize it.

nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
3. Link to confirming story
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 04:38 AM
Jul 2016
http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/fighter-jets_fighter-jets-intercept-israeli-airliner/42273548

Fighter jets intercept Israeli airliner

Jul 5, 2016 - 10:22

Two Swiss F/A-18 fighter jets have intercepted an Israeli El Al airliner near Schaffhausen due to a bomb threat, authorities said.

The jets had to break the sound barrier while reacting quickly to catch the airliner on a flight that originated in the United States, according to Schaffhausen police and Skyguide, the Swiss air traffic controllers.
(snip)

Such a "hot mission" by the Swiss Air Force is brought on when a foreign aircraft violates Swiss airspace or sends a distress signal.

It was not yet clear which had occurred, but the plane already had been accompanied in France's airspace.
(snip)
 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
4. Wow - my sister's good friend and
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 05:22 AM
Jul 2016

neighbor is/was flying from NY to Tel Aviv yesterday. Too early to find out of this was her flight - I know she headed to the airport yesterday afternoon.

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
9. That Was My
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 07:55 AM
Jul 2016

first thought. Uhhh? Then the continued to fly to Tel Aviv??? Sounds like more to this story.

Igel

(35,320 posts)
11. You need to be more cold blooded.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 09:42 AM
Jul 2016

If a passenger has a box cutter on a US flight, what's the fighter plane going to do?

Give others some measure of control and additional options insteading of just watching the radar screen. That may mean making visual contact with the pilot for confirmation.

In the guy with the weapon takes control of the plane and thinks to use it as a flying bomb, perhaps just damage an engine or two so the plane has to make an emergency landing. Perhaps get in the way so that the plane is forced to change course or land.

Or perhaps blow it out of the sky. It's a tough call--do you kill the 180 or so civilians on board to stop the plane from killing 2000?


This is the trolley problem in psychology.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
12. They may control some of the threat to populated areas. Sadly, they
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 09:54 AM
Jul 2016

won't necessarily be successful in rescuing passengers.

But potentially they could get the plane down for negotiations, if those are possible.

I hope this is an empty threat.

BlueMTexpat

(15,370 posts)
8. Here is some more information ...
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 06:46 AM
Jul 2016
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/israel-airlines-bomb-threat-swiss-fighter-jets-intercept-flight-ly002-bound-tel-aviv-new-york-1568977

Apparently, the Swiss planes "intercepted" to escort and assist the plane whose pilots had received a bomb threat while in Swiss airspace. The El Al flight has since landed safely in Tel Aviv.
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