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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 03:05 PM Jul 2016

Texas Lt. Gov.: Dallas BLM Protesters 'Hypocrites' For Running From Gunfire

Source: Talking Points Memo

Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick (R) on Friday afternoon railed against the people who took part in the protest in Dallas on Thursday night, charging that the protesters were "hypocrites" because, as he framed it, they were anti-police but expected the police to protect them once the shooting started.

"All those protesters last night, they ran the other way, expecting the men and women in blue to turn around and protect them. What hypocrites," Patrick said on Fox News. "I understand the First Amendment. I understand freedom of speech, and I defend it. It is in our Constitution and is in our soul, but you can't go out on social media and mainstream media and everywhere else and say that the police are racist or police are hateful or the police are killers."

Patrick said that the officers killed in the shooting at the scene of the protest "lost their life protecting people who were protesting against them."

Patrick recognized that the Dallas protest over the deadly shootings of black men by police in Louisiana and Minnesota on Thursday night was peaceful, but he placed some blame for the deadly shooting on those who speak out against police violence.

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Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/dan-patrick-dallas-protesters-hypocrites

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Texas Lt. Gov.: Dallas BLM Protesters 'Hypocrites' For Running From Gunfire (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2016 OP
Tone deaf asshole. SO cops are free to choose who they protect and who they leave to die morningfog Jul 2016 #1
Yes, they are. puffy socks Jul 2016 #26
Political opportunist. Ash_F Jul 2016 #2
How do idiots like that get elected? brush Jul 2016 #3
they run in Texas, to start with. ChairmanAgnostic Jul 2016 #6
Clearly, they ran away because they did NOT expect the police to protect them. pnwmom Jul 2016 #4
Mommas, don't let your babies grow up to be this clown... n/t jtuck004 Jul 2016 #5
anti-police-killing-innocent-people != anti-police tk2kewl Jul 2016 #7
Dan Patrick: Saying what needs to be said christx30 Jul 2016 #8
What a idiot rockfordfile Jul 2016 #9
The NRA should give all protesters guns so they can protect themselves Angry Dragon Jul 2016 #10
Idiot! lark Jul 2016 #11
Black Lives Matter were protesting because they didn't want to be shot Democat Jul 2016 #12
it's hard to use logic and common sense against a right-winger Fast Walker 52 Jul 2016 #15
Pretty much. Sand Rat Expat Jul 2016 #32
I guess this whole "protect and serve" thing is lost on him BeyondGeography Jul 2016 #13
It's amazing how consistently dumb right-wing logic is Fast Walker 52 Jul 2016 #14
The PROTESTERS thought THAT THEY WERE THE ONES BEING SHOT AT !! DUH !! vkkv Jul 2016 #16
It's politicians like this who only help fuel the anger and dispair in the black community markj757 Jul 2016 #17
Fuckwit. geardaddy Jul 2016 #18
Patrick is a fucking idiot Scalded Nun Jul 2016 #19
He wants them to remember he supports their hatred, next election. Judi Lynn Jul 2016 #27
He's a sick jerk. hamsterjill Jul 2016 #20
But Cliven Bundy is a patriot for pointing his guns at law enforcement, right, Dannie? muntrv Jul 2016 #21
Shhhhh. Sand Rat Expat Jul 2016 #33
The police were doing their job Marthe48 Jul 2016 #22
It's Official: Night Watchman Jul 2016 #23
Did this hero drive at breakneck speed from Austin to Dallas to offer his help, or struggle4progress Jul 2016 #24
"expecting the men and women in blue to turn around and protect them." Well, it is the job of riversedge Jul 2016 #25
I would call Patrick a pig RandySF Jul 2016 #28
He's a scumbag dem in texas Jul 2016 #29
This is the same asshole who posted "man reaps what he sows" after Orlando. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2016 #30
Did he really say that people shouldn't speak out against police violence? olddad56 Jul 2016 #31
Next time (God forbid), instead of using a robot... 63splitwindow Jul 2016 #34
 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
26. Yes, they are.
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 06:48 PM
Jul 2016

Police Have No Duty To Protect Individuals

Warren v. District of Columbia is one of the leading cases of this type. Two women were upstairs in a townhouse when they heard their roommate, a third woman, being attacked downstairs by intruders. They phoned the police several times and were assured that officers were on the way. After about 30 minutes, when their roommate's screams had stopped, they assumed the police had finally arrived. When the two women went downstairs they saw that in fact the police never came, but the intruders were still there. As the Warren court graphically states in the opinion: "For the next fourteen hours the women were held captive, raped, robbed, beaten, forced to commit sexual acts upon each other, and made to submit to the sexual demands of their attackers."

The three women sued the District of Columbia for failing to protect them, but D.C.'s highest court exonerated the District and its police, saying that it is a "fundamental principle of American law that a government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any individual citizen." [4] There are many similar cases with results to the same effect. [5]

In the Warren case the injured parties sued the District of Columbia under its own laws for failing to protect them. Most often such cases are brought in state (or, in the case of Warren, D.C.) courts for violation of state statutes, because federal law pertaining to these matters is even more onerous. But when someone does sue under federal law, it is nearly always for violation of 42 U.S.C. 1983 (often inaccurately referred to as "the civil rights act&quot . Section 1983 claims are brought against government officials for allegedly violating the injured parties' federal statutory or Constitutional rights.

https://www.firearmsandliberty.com/kasler-protection.html

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
4. Clearly, they ran away because they did NOT expect the police to protect them.
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 03:09 PM
Jul 2016

Even the best police on the ground wouldn't have been able to offer protection from an unseen sniper, and neither would their own weapons have helped keep them safe, if any of them were carrying.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
7. anti-police-killing-innocent-people != anti-police
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 03:12 PM
Jul 2016

nor does it mean they are not entitled to be protected and served by the police

fuck off Danny boy

christx30

(6,241 posts)
8. Dan Patrick: Saying what needs to be said
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 03:24 PM
Jul 2016

to expose him as an idiot that shouldn't have any power whatsoever.
Hateful POS shouldn't even be a supervisor at a Dairy Queen, much less the Lt. Gov.

rockfordfile

(8,704 posts)
9. What a idiot
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 03:34 PM
Jul 2016

It seems that this is typical of Texas. People always run when they hear shooting. That pos goes on Faux News and spews his made up bs. Bushco's library is located in Dallas not surprised.

lark

(23,105 posts)
11. Idiot!
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 03:56 PM
Jul 2016

Out of control, numbskull police killing mostly black men for no reason at all, no provocation, just out of sheer racist hate and stupidity and possibly an excess of testosterone is what caused this. BLM was just protesting the stupid hateful racist killings by police, as they had a right to. The guy that targeted the police was wrong, so wrong, but he wasn't part of BLM, far as we know. Were the police trying to protect the protestors or themselves. From the video I saw, it looked like the later and not the former. They seemed very focused on themselves and their peers only.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
12. Black Lives Matter were protesting because they didn't want to be shot
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 04:00 PM
Jul 2016

Why would they run toward gunfire when the protest was against shooting.

Sand Rat Expat

(290 posts)
32. Pretty much.
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 11:37 PM
Jul 2016

Doing so is like playing chess against an opponent playing checkers. They're operating under a completely different set of rules.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
16. The PROTESTERS thought THAT THEY WERE THE ONES BEING SHOT AT !! DUH !!
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 04:23 PM
Jul 2016

I sure would have thought that!

Who the fuck shoots at COPS ????!?!?!!

TX politicians are mostly a-holes.

 

markj757

(194 posts)
17. It's politicians like this who only help fuel the anger and dispair in the black community
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 04:50 PM
Jul 2016

I want to ask him, how long should we accept being POLICED to death, without justice being handed down to those who are quick to use deadly force without cause? How is fighting for a more just and honest police force, not being PRO police? I may not like the name "Black Lives Matter" because All Lives Matter, but I also know they are not the cause of violence, they are the result of it. Politicians like this, love to run to the welcoming arms of right wing media, and use subtle racially charged language (as if black people are too fuc&*% stupid to understand their racial dog whistle); but they never go on these same outlets and show similar concern about the tragic loss of life of innocent men of color being killed by the unjustified use of deadly force.

I am deeply saddened by the loss of life and injuries suffered by police at the hands of this gunman, but I am not completely surprised by it. Our community as a whole is reaching a breaking point by one unjustified killing after another by police caught on video, and we need much more than monetary settlements to ease our frustration. We need justice for those who perpetrate these acts, and justice for the victims and their families who are left to deal with the aftermath. Because as a community we know, that for every act of police brutality that comes to light because someone was able to capture it on video, there are so many more other stories that we will never be told, and will never see the light of day.

When we talk about race across racial lines, groups like Black Lives Matter condense the question down to something like, Do you think a white life is more valued than a black life? And of course the answer is going to be no, whether they believe it or not, its just the politically correct thing to say and the response is automatic. But we need to ask a different question that doesn't even mention race, but goes to the heart of our humanity and our connection to each other, and might at least make a person take a few seconds to think. And the question is this, "Do you think the love you have for your family, is more valuable than the love I have for mine?" And the power of that truth, is at the heart of our fight for equal justice under the law.

Scalded Nun

(1,236 posts)
19. Patrick is a fucking idiot
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 05:13 PM
Jul 2016

Nasty to the core, always trying to fan the flames of his dumber-than-dirt supporters.

The only way he can stay in office is by pandering to the weak-minded racist morons of this state. Unfortunately, we have way too many of them.

Marthe48

(16,975 posts)
22. The police were doing their job
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 06:20 PM
Jul 2016

and were paid to protect the crowd, who by the way, weren't the target. Top down: if so-called leaders, and I use the term loosely for jerks like this, did their job, there would be less racial tension. But no, uneducated clods like this foment hatred and encourage hostility between all groups.

 

Night Watchman

(743 posts)
23. It's Official:
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 06:28 PM
Jul 2016

Last edited Fri Jul 8, 2016, 07:56 PM - Edit history (1)

Texas' Lt. Governor is just as big of an asshole as its Governor.

struggle4progress

(118,295 posts)
24. Did this hero drive at breakneck speed from Austin to Dallas to offer his help, or
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 06:38 PM
Jul 2016

did he just sit in front of the boobtube snickering at the sight of black families running for cover at the sound of gunfire?

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
25. "expecting the men and women in blue to turn around and protect them." Well, it is the job of
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 06:39 PM
Jul 2016

the police to protect its citizens.

His comments makes him look like the fool he is.

 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
34. Next time (God forbid), instead of using a robot...
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 12:15 AM
Jul 2016

they'll just send you in with a stick of dynamite stuck up your ass Dan


Yeah, we'll use a stick about that long Dan.

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