Anti-NATO Activists Protest Deployment Of Troops
Source: Associated Press
WARSAW, Poland (AP) The Latest on the NATO Summit in Warsaw (all times local):
2.50 p.m.
A few hundred anti-NATO activists have protested in Warsaw against the decision by the alliance to deploy troops on NATOs eastern flank.
The protesters marched in downtown Warsaw on the second day of the NATO summit in the city, carrying banners reading Stop NATO and chanting NATO get out of here.
The summit has decided to boost NATOs deterrence in response to Russias annexation of Crimea and support for rebels in eastern Ukraine.
Some protesters carried long loafs of bread Saturday and chanted money for the hungry not for tanks.
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Anti-NATO Crowds March Through Warsaw Amid Alliance Summit (VIDEO)
Protests have taken place in Warsaw with members of the public angry the Polish capital is hosting a NATO summit. A few hundred demonstrators gathered in the city to march towards the national stadium where the conference was taking place.
Some of the protesters were carrying placards, such as Stop NATO, Stop the War and Yankees, go home as they marched from Charles de Gaulle Monument towards the national stadium.
There were over 300 of us, which is not bad at all given the torrential rain and the circumstances. Everyone is in great spirits and we almost got to where we wanted. The demonstration is over, a member of the international group No to War No to NATO, Rainer Braun told RIA Novosti.
Ann Wright, a retired US State Department official was one of those taking part in the protest. She told RT that she believes it is time for the alliance to stop putting the blame constantly on Moscow.
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https://www.rt.com/news/350331-nato-protest-poland-greece/
uawchild
(2,208 posts)a bunch of Putin-lovers.
Seriously, the US funds, what, ~3/4 of NATO costs? Most of the EU members see no need to spend more than about 1% of their GDP on the military, simply because they see no real need to. They don't see Russia as the big threat the Cold War II hysteria here in the US is making it out to be. They are voting with their pocketbooks. They are voting for peace.
The US is going to have a VERY hard time convincing the vast majority of EU nations to increase military spending up to 2% of their GDP. A very hard time as in it ain't gonna happen.
sangfroid
(212 posts)if I lived in Europe, I'd have been there.
Igel
(35,362 posts)Everybody was saying peace was more important and few wanted to worry their beautiful minds about it.
The Baltics were basically occupied from '39 to '91 as a result. That's before the first bullet was fired in WWII. You see, Russia (okay, the USSR at the time) simply said that its legitimate security interests weren't being met and what it did was necessary.
With nobody to stand up for it, the countries' brief bout of not being part of the Russian Empire came to an end, and many, many thousands were ultimately arrested, sent into exile, and killed either from prison guards, work in the GULags, or simply being in internal exile in the boonies. The indigenous populations were oppressed by populations relocated among them and many forced to adopt another language in order to keep their jobs or be educated.
This, we defend. And the undoing of this was the worst geopolitical disaster of the 20th century.
uawchild
(2,208 posts)And shortly before all of what you wrote happened WWII took place.
"America would lose slightly more than 400,000 soldiers (killed or missing) and almost no civilians during World War II and the USSR, depending on which historian you believe, would lose at least 11,000,000 soldiers (killed and missing) as well as somewhere between 7,000,000 and 20,000,000 million of its civilians"
www.eisenhowerinstitute.org/about/.../wwii_soviet_experience.dot
Those 20,000,000 Russian civilians were killed by the Nazis and their little helpers, like these guys...
Latvian SS-Legion marching next to Dome Cathedral in Riga on Latvian Independence Day, 1943
The Latvian Legion (Latvian: Latvieu leģions) was a formation of the Waffen-SS during World War II created in 1943, consisting primarily of ethnic Latvian soldiers.[1][2][3][4][5][6] The 15th Division was administratively subordinated to the VI SS Volunteer Corps, but operationally it was in reserve or at the disposal of the XXXXIII Army Corps, 16th Army, Army Group North.[7] The 19th Division held out in the Courland Pocket until May 1945, the close of World War II, when it was among the last of Nazi Germany's forces to surrender.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latvian_Legion
So, igel, I respect your knowledge of history but regret that it is so selective and often leaves out the total context of historical events.
All considered, considering what the Nazi's and their little helpers like the Latvian SS did to them, the Russians acted with considerable restraint in victory after the dust settled on WWII. Certainly compared to the horrors inflicted on them.
uhnope
(6,419 posts)Trying to explain away 50+ years of gulags, oppression and dictatorship as "considerable restraint" is just nauseating. You've done this so often, and with no sign of shame, that it's very unlikely anyone with any sense is bothering to even notice.
uhnope
(6,419 posts)RT lol
sangfroid
(212 posts)Is that, by responding to today's problems based on responses and strategies for problems of 80 years ago, we don't actually solve anything, do we? When Russia starts getting aggresive again, why is the response always sabre rattling and a willingness to sacrifice another generation of young men? Because that's what we've always done?
Unless you're looking forward to the waste and carnage of another couple of decades of permanent war, we have to think of another way.
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