Tests find only marijuana in face-chewer's system

[Scurrilous]

Source: Associated Press

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"Lab tests detected only marijuana in the system of a Florida man shot while chewing on another man's face, the medical examiner said Wednesday, ruling out other street drugs including the components typically found in the stimulants known as "bath salts."

There has been much speculation about what drugs, if any, would lead to the bizarre behavior that authorities said Rudy Eugene exhibited before and during the gruesome attack that left the other man horribly disfigured. A Miami police union official had suggested that Eugene, who was shot and killed by an officer, was probably under the influence of bath salts.

The Miami-Dade County Medical Examiner said in a news release that the toxicology detected marijuana, but it didn't find any other street drugs, alcohol or prescription drugs. Eugene also tested negative for adulterants commonly mixed with street drugs.

The department ruled out the most common components found in so-called bath salts, which mimic the effects of cocaine or methamphetamine and have been associated with bizarre crimes in recent months. An outside forensic toxicology lab, which took a second look at the results, also confirmed the absence of bath salts, synthetic marijuana and LSD."



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Link to previous locked thread:

Face Eating Zombie...Only On The Pot!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014153619

[Pryderi]

1. Insane people smoke pot too. n/t

[limpyhobbler]

2. Reefer Madness !!!

That stuff was laced.

Probably just a government plot to turn pot smokers into flesh eating zombies.

[Woody Woodpecker]

4. Most likely what people call

Wet Weed.

Killer.

Love Boat.

You name it - it's dipped with PCP.

Did they test the dude for PCP?

[TheWraith]

9. I would imagine he was tested for everything.

Although it's possible he was on something that breaks down quickly.

[bemildred]

22. Test are expensive.

And they get more expensive fast when you try to make them more precise.

[limpyhobbler]

10. You can't test for everything.

Some things don't show up in tests.

"There are many of these synthetic drugs that we currently don't have the methodology to test on, and that is not the fault of the toxicology lab. The challenge today for the toxicology lab is to stay on top of these new chemicals and develop methodologies for them, but it's very difficult and very expensive." Goldberger said. "There is no one test or combination of tests that can detect every possible substance out there."

[RitchieRich]

17. this on the heels of the "synthecit" pot guy who ate the dog

something seems fishy.

[bemildred]

21. Yep stinks. nt

[TheWraith]

31. "Synthetic pot" may be synthetic, but it's not even close to pot.

A more honest name would be "Synthetic stuff that gets you high when you smoke it." That's where the similarity to pot ends, basically. Chemically, they have nothing in common with each other.

[Adsos Letter]

3. he had the munchies?

[Mnemosyne]

5. Oh...

[azurnoir]

6. maybe he had a craving for 'long pork' n/t

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[flamingdem]

19. ahem!

nt

[Iliyah]

7. not fact

not real.

[MrSlayer]

8. SEE!!! Pot makes you CRAZZZZY!!!

Haha. Watch for the drug warriors to take up a similar battle cry.

[bemildred]

11. Can common soaps make you fail a drug test for marijuana?

http://www.examiner.com/article/can-common-soaps-make-you-fail-a-drug-test-for-marijuana

[RainDog]

12. Since one in ten Americans use marijuana in a given year

why aren't there more zombies in the U.S.?

[boppers]

13. Marijuana and psychosis are linked.

Do not confuse correlation and causation, though.

[RainDog]

14. Roger Pertwee, the leading pharmacologist in the UK

recommends that those with a family history of schizophrenia avoid cannabis.

Cannabis does not cause shizophrenia, however. It may help to precipitate an earlier onset in people who are already at risk for this disease.

Pertwee states there is no causal relationship.

He recommends, because of this, that cannabis be licensed and sold.

[K8-EEE]

15. My 18 year old autistic daughter is a medical marijuana patient

It certainly doesn't cure autism but it works wonders on autistic rage & self-injurious behavior. She takes an under the tongue tincture and within 20 minutes goes from uncontrollable hand biting, hitting the wall etc. to calm, happy and focused.

Hated seeing this because those waging a war on marijuana will try and use it to take it away I would never give her "street drugs" so if we didn't have legal dispensaries (with Dr. rec) here in CA I would probably have to move because my only alternatives are pretty toxic (risperdal, xanax, calexa all which she was prescribed are sitting in my medicine chest - the side effects to all of them are huge, she has had none with the 420 and the best thing is, on good days she doesn't need it. The others, you can't miss a dose without withdrawal symptoms, the MJ, she goes a whole week without it sometimes.

[RainDog]

16. hugs to you

my son is high-functioning autistic but we live in an illegal state.

I've often wondered if he could benefit from mmj for some of the perseveration, anxiety and the physiological issue of gastrointestinal problems that are common among those with aspergers. MMJ with high levels of CBD has shown great results for people with IBD, IBS, and Crohn's disease because of the anti-inflammatory and immune system modulation - b/c humans have a lot of cannabinoid receptors in the GI system.

but my son is very "by the book" and would never consider doing anything illegal. And, b/c it's illegal, I would never suggest it. Which is why it infuriates me that the simple fate of geography can prevent my son from trying an herb to see if it could greatly improve the quality of his life.

Have you read about the mom in Rhode Island who has dealt with her son's autism with mmj?

I wonder if the reasons people with autism find help is the same reason that people with epilepsy, MS and CP find that mmj stops seizures and spasticity? Before my son was dx'd with aspergers, the doctors thought he was having complex-partial seizures.

[RitchieRich]

27. get a friend to make you "brownies"

[Sans__Culottes]

18. *Lack* of a drug can cause temporary, violent psychosis.

My doctor had me on Xanax for insomnia & depression for approximately 45 days.

I hated the drug and suspended taking it. My doctor did not warn me of withdrawal symptoms. If you've become addicted to Xanax, sudden cessation can cause extreme paranoid psychosis with horribly intense hallucinations.

I was arrested for attacking an empty school-bus with my bare hands. I was covered in blood from climbing fences, et al. I was clothed only in gym shorts & T-shirt. No ID. No shoes and my feet were a bloody mess. County hospital found no drugs in my system other than cannabis.

A detective asked me to agree to detox hospitalization during one of my lucid moments and I agreed. 24 hours later I was released (without charges) because the doctor on staff recognized my symptoms and the withdrawal had run its course.

The entire episode lasted 2 weeks before it became so intense that I was arrested. I can't comment specifically on the symptoms because what memories I have are too painful.

I'm not saying that this is what the "cannibal" experienced but it is possible. I was very lucky that I did not become combative with the cops, or the outcome for me could have been lethal.

Xanax is one of those most-abused gifts from Big Pharma and is extremely dangerous.

BTW, I'd also been prescribed Ambien prior to the Xanax and had quit taking it because of the sleep-walking and being unable to recall what I'd done during the sleep-walking.

[TheWraith]

32. That's actually a really good point.

Drugs, legal and illegal, alter brain chemistry. Going back to "normal" can be just as shocking to the system and disruptive to the brain as taking a new drug.

[revolution breeze]

20. More ammunition

for those against medical marijuana.

[KurtNYC]

23. 80,000,000 pot smokers and one was a face chewer

That's your science?

[revolution breeze]

24. You know how they spin things. n/t

[SCVDem]

29. No mention of alcohol violence? nt

[Bradical79]

34. Pretty weak amunition

I know very very few people these days who would buy into marijuana having anything to do with a man eating another person's face. In fact, it would probably backfire by making anyone claiming such a thing look particularly idiotic.

[Neoma]

25. Did they smell his hair?

http://news.yahoo.com/baby-soaps-and-shampoos-trigger-positive-marijuana-tests.html

Just asking.

[SCVDem]

26. Persistence

Since it can take up to two months to clear cannabis metabolites from ones system, I fail to see any relevance to this disclosure.

If he were actively medicated I doubt he would have the energy to attack anyone.

[hardalpha]

28. the idiocy of miami police

The police decided among themselves, and without proof (as usual), to claim that Eugene was "probably" under the influence of bath salts. This was not just a suggestion. It was an 'all out' bullshit lie. Typical police behavior. Idiocy knows no bounds.

[NYC_SKP]

30. This is why I do not indulge in the mary jane...

I just think that eating faces is wrong.

[0rganism]

33. so we're blaming this on the munchies? OK.

Most stoned folks can find their way to the local 7-11 for a bag of cheetos or ding-dongs, but some people are special, it's true.