In Platform, Black Lives Matter Accuses Israel Of ‘Genocide,’ Backs BDS
Source: Times of Israel
Ahead of elections, umbrella group releases document labeling Jewish state an apartheid state, calls for stopping US support
By Eric Cortellessa August 3, 2016, 9:45 pm
WASHINGTON Following the Republican and Democratic national conventions, groups associated with the Black Lives Matter movement released a platform Monday that labels Israel an apartheid state and excoriates the United States for its alliance with a country it alleges systemically perpetrates a genocide against the Palestinians.
The platform, which demands an end to the war against Black people, marks the campaigns first official entry into Americas debate over specific federal policies. In the past, Black Lives Matter has been noted for its protests against disparities within the nations criminal justice system that disadvantage African-Americans and other minorities.
The document makes 40 specific policy proposals, including abolishing the death penalty, providing free tuition to public universities, and enacting reparations to Black Americans, and addressed matters of US foreign policy in a section titled Invest-Divest.
Highly critical of the Jewish state which it said practices systematic discrimination and has maintained a military occupation of Palestine for decades the platform devoted a section to the US-Israel relationship. The US justifies and advances the global war on terror via its alliance with Israel and is complicit in the genocide taking place against the Palestinian people, the text said.
Read more: http://www.timesofisrael.com/in-platform-black-lives-matter-accuses-israel-of-genocide-backs-bds/
US Jewish Council Mad After Black Lives Matter Back Palestine
The U.S.-based Jewish Community Relations Council issued a statement Wednesday criticizing the Black Lives Matter movement over their support for Palestine after they called out Israeli "genocide" for Tel Aviv's continued occupation and systematic oppression of the Palestinian people.
We are deeply dismayed by elements of this platform, specifically the co-opting and manipulation of a movement addressing concerns about racial disparities in criminal justice in the United States in order to advance a biased and false narrative about the Israeli/Palestinian conflict," reads a statement from the organization.
The group also dismissed the idea that the suffering of Black people in the U.S. and Palestinians are in anyway similar. To conflate the experiences of African-Americans and Palestinians oversimplifies complex matters and advances false equivalencies that diminish the unique nature of each.
The anti-police brutality movement issued its first platform and within it the group included a section on U.S. foreign policy. In the 40-page document, Black Lives Matter declare Israel an apartheid state which practices systematic discrimination and has maintained a military occupation of Palestine for decades.
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http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/US-Jewish-Council-Mad-After-Black-Lives-Matter-Back-Palestine-20160803-0040.html
Democat
(11,617 posts)Is this a political party or a group focused on stopping police violence?
canetoad
(17,200 posts)Have made the mistake of not being able to focus on their issue. They are diluting the message.
uhnope
(6,419 posts)Next they'll be denouncing "US imperialism" and complaining about "NATO aggression."
TipTok
(2,474 posts)Anyone can claim association with (or even leadership of) a group that has no leadership or policy or standards.
romanic
(2,841 posts)I know it's not popular to stay, but the rumors of Soros and other wealthy elites using BLM to push agendas seems to be more and more likely imo.
Justice
(7,188 posts)Against HRC.
Democat
(11,617 posts)I would not expect her to continue supporting Black Lives Matter if they are officially calling Israel genocidal.
Beakybird
(3,333 posts)As a liberal Jew, I find this alienating. If the Palestinians widely recognized Israel's right to exist, I would feel differently. Very complex issues. Genocide is vitriolic. It is a term the U.N. uses only in the most extreme circumstances.
This seems anti-Semitic to me.
Lunabell
(6,127 posts)The Apartheid of Palestinian people needs to stop and Israel needs to scale back their land grab. Palestinians ha
ve a right to exist too.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,858 posts)I'm not Jewish, but I can understand Israelis being concerned about free access to Palestinians given past terror.
Most Palestinians have been in the region less time than the Jews, by the way. Most of them are descendants who arrived in the area from surrounding countries for work after Jews industrialized it. I mention that because the most common argument that I read goes like this, "How would you feel if someone invaded your land and then told you that you could only live in a section of it?"
Some of the expansionist tactics of the Israelis are uncool, though.
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on all counts.
cpwm17
(3,829 posts)Who it is that's stealing from the other. Who is it that conducted the Nakba and numerous other aggressive actions against the other. Who is it that is trying to erase the other from existence.
This has to be the world's worst indentity theft con-game game in history, which includes stealing victim status from the actual victims.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Black lives matters - instead of bringing people together to support their cause - is getting involved in something they seemingly know very little about. Perhaps one of them can explain to us how the Palestinians continue to show explosive growth in their population while undergoing a "genocide". Black Lives Matters obviously think they have so much support, they can afford to turn natural allies away. So be it.
JudyM
(29,294 posts)Blacks in the US were never staging attacks, bombing cafés and school buses, launching rockets. Use of the word genocide, against Israelis, when there is none, as inflammatory rhetoric, is morally reprehensible. And that's just at the most basic level of analysis, there's much more. I'm not suggesting Israel hasn't made mistakes and error judgments, but the "occupation" is a continuing matter of national defense originally brought on by attacks against Israel, far different than apartheid. This is a sad turn of events for me re: support of BLM.
uhnope
(6,419 posts)Justice
(7,188 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)To think I really thought they were a grass roots movement.
Looks like they are actually being run by folks from the 'crazy departments' of universities.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)They obviously think they are more than what they really are.
Democat
(11,617 posts)Sounds like Clint Eastwood.
JudyM
(29,294 posts)substance of the criticism is irrelevant.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)interests of black folk. Let us pay attention, then, to the content, for the criticism is most noble.
The most monstrous monster is the monster with noble feelings
― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Eternal Husband
snooper2
(30,151 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)While they have compelling points on I/P, that has jack shit to do with people getting shot in St. Louis and Oakland.
Dilutes their message and starts to resemble the generic far left march. Only thing missing is a homemade "Free Mumia" sign though maybe I just overlooked that one.
Such moves push away 10 people from their cause for every 1 person they attract.
7962
(11,841 posts)I especially like the "Free Mumia" reference!!
Democat
(11,617 posts)It's probably in the platform.
7962
(11,841 posts)Just another bunch of ignorant anti-Israel anti-Semitic bullshit
I knew this was where they were headed when I noticed their protests started having their signs provided by "Answer Coalition"
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)...oh wait.
7962
(11,841 posts)If they were acting like the palestinians, they would likely be treated similarly.
Yet they have assimilated into society & work just like the rest of us.
Maybe the Palestinians could learn a lot from the Native Americans. Its good that you brought it up!
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)There are native american celebrations across the entire country every year at certain times, many near where I live. And they're not held on "reservations" either. We also have Native American history month too!
treestar
(82,383 posts)Now I don't think anyone wants to label that terrorism. It's not a perfect analogy.
7962
(11,841 posts)Comparing the Native Americans to the Palestinians is an insult to the Native Americans
Nitram
(22,913 posts)...threats to Black lives in America. This will only water down the message and give critics ammunition to attack them and obscure the group's primary mission.
Lulu KC
(2,574 posts)I am not familiar with this "umbrella organization," which is actually the one that included this in its platform according to the article. One of its many members is BLM.
This doesn't sound like BLM itself to me and I believe it would harm them to take this stand.
This article from The Atlantic helped make some sense of it: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/08/movement-black-lives-platform/494309/
Still very complicated.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)I think BLM is quite capable of taking on more than one topic.
Throd
(7,208 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)what I am getting at is all the people in here getting their panties in a knot because they "dared" to express an opinion on something other than Black Lives. It stinks of "they should know their place".
Democat
(11,617 posts)So they are hurting their own cause if their cause is supposed to to stopping police violence against black men.
Just because they are capable of doing two things at once doesn't mean it's a good idea.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)but at what time should people start pointing out the fact that the Israeli government has its own form of Apartheid going on? How long should we keep glossing over that fact? Our ignoring what they are doing hasn't stopped it one iota.
Democat
(11,617 posts)But if we agree that the police shouldn't be killing unarmed black men, maybe Black Lives Matter should focus on that.
romanic
(2,841 posts)Not surprised, I've seen some BLM protests with people waving Palestinian flags before (the most notable one i can think of is that bridge protest in CA). I cannot wait for the Anti-Semi....err "Anti-Zionism" to spill forth from their mouths.
ETA: And I wonder, would any of the BLM activists willing live under an organization like Hamas? I mean, despite Israel's attacks on the Palestinian people, I doubt Hamas treats the Palestinian citzenry any better.
7962
(11,841 posts)BLM has been corrupted by those lunatics.
Oneironaut
(5,530 posts)Occupy Wall Street had the same issue. You need to focus on one area and message, or face message dilution. This usually happens with poor group cohesion - different subgroups within a group begin diluting the message by injecting their own causes into the main message.
To fix this, a group needs to focus on and push a constant and clear message. BLM and OWS did not do this effectively, imo. Both grabbed this nation's attention and then blew it horribly. This is BLM's last sputter before its inevitable demise. OWS died in a similar way.