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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Sat Sep 3, 2016, 08:00 PM Sep 2016

Israel Clears Soldiers Involved In Checkpoint Killing Of U.S. Teen

Source: Politico

By NAHAL TOOSI 09/03/16 11:28 AM EDT

Israeli authorities have told U.S. officials that they found no criminal wrongdoing by soldiers involved in the February killing of an American teenager whom the troops allege tried to stab them, and that Israel will not further pursue the case, POLITICO has learned.

The decision has upset human rights activists who question the description of what happened and who have long accused Israel of failing to hold its security forces accountable for the use of excessive force. Some U.S.-based activists have quietly been pushing the Obama administration and Congress to do more to shed light on what happened.

The incident in question took place on Feb. 26, when Mahmoud Shaalan, a Miami-born 16-year-old of Palestinian descent, went to a checkpoint near the West Bank city of Ramallah. The encounter came amid a wave of Palestinian stabbing attacks that have put Israel on edge.

According to past statements from the Israelis, Shaalan stabbed a soldier, and when other troops shot him, he kept trying to stab them before being shot further. But according to Israeli media, eyewitnesses told activists that Shaalan was shot in the back after getting into an apparent verbal dispute with Israeli soldiers at the checkpoint.
It's unclear if there is audio or video footage to back up t



Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/israel-probe-us-teen-killed-mahmoud-shaalan-227711

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Israel Clears Soldiers Involved In Checkpoint Killing Of U.S. Teen (Original Post) Purveyor Sep 2016 OP
I'm sure glad we don't have foreign soldiers cpwm17 Sep 2016 #1
Unfortunately... Mr_Jefferson_24 Sep 2016 #2
It's true: a significant minority of people in this world have no problem with extreme selfishness. cpwm17 Sep 2016 #4
While not on the same level... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2016 #5
guess stabbing a soldier didn't work out too well 6chars Sep 2016 #3
is that supposed to be funny? martin mike Sep 2016 #6
Unfortunately it's very true, King_David Sep 2016 #7
his headline was snarky, and the text was even worse! martin mike Sep 2016 #8
It's a lesson for future would be knife wielding killers. nt King_David Sep 2016 #9
As usual... Archae Sep 2016 #10
No doubt, alleging a lesson is a wonderful pretense to continue a narrative. LanternWaste Sep 2016 #11
I have no idea what that actually means... King_David Sep 2016 #12
Yeah, you're not overreacting or anything. NuclearDem Sep 2016 #15
you raise a good point 6chars Sep 2016 #16
so law enforcement elsewhere also not subject to the law? dembotoz Sep 2016 #13
Pretty much, if someone attacks a soldier christx30 Sep 2016 #14
 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
1. I'm sure glad we don't have foreign soldiers
Sat Sep 3, 2016, 08:47 PM
Sep 2016

setting up checkpoints all over the US, and shooting American kids, to protect a massive land theft. It's so bizarre that in this day and age there are actually real human beings that support this evil.

Mr_Jefferson_24

(8,559 posts)
2. Unfortunately...
Sat Sep 3, 2016, 09:10 PM
Sep 2016

...in this day and age, real human beings somehow absent of any real humanity are in abundant supply.

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
4. It's true: a significant minority of people in this world have no problem with extreme selfishness.
Sat Sep 3, 2016, 09:27 PM
Sep 2016

I grew up around it.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
5. While not on the same level...
Sat Sep 3, 2016, 10:44 PM
Sep 2016

forces are trying their damndest to put an unwanted pipeline on Native American land.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
7. Unfortunately it's very true,
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 09:49 AM
Sep 2016

If you stab a soldier or a civilian ( usually Jewish), which is more likely, it's no surprise when you're shot and killed.

 

martin mike

(82 posts)
8. his headline was snarky, and the text was even worse!
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 12:00 PM
Sep 2016

"Live and learn, so to speak." well, when someone gets killed, they can't live and learn, can they?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
11. No doubt, alleging a lesson is a wonderful pretense to continue a narrative.
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 01:08 PM
Sep 2016

No doubt, alleging a lesson is a wonderful pretense to continue a narrative.

6chars

(3,967 posts)
16. you raise a good point
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 11:19 PM
Sep 2016

a person can't learn the lesson from an act that gets them killed the first time they try it. this is why there are typically cultural restrictions about doing those things. like, don't jump in the deep end of the pool if you can't swim. on the other hand, if the thing that gets a person killed the first time is an attempt to murder someone else, then they just bypassed two typical cultural restrictions. 1) don't murder. 2) don't be an idiot. although it is too late for this fellow to learn the simple lesson, it is perhaps a good opportunity for Palestinian leaders to learn a meta-lesson -- don't celebrate teenagers who murder or attempt murder, and don't encourage them to do it. Since they are unlikely to learn that meta-lesson, maybe people outside the region can learn a meta-meta lesson -- it is time to stop ignoring the way Palestinian leadership incites terror and pretending that it is all ok since they are Palestinian.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
14. Pretty much, if someone attacks a soldier
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 03:10 PM
Sep 2016

with a knife, and is shot, that soldier is probably going to not face any kind of criminal liability. The lesson to be learned here is to not attack soldiers.

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