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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Sep 4, 2016, 09:52 AM Sep 2016

Rudy Giuliani: ‘Democrats should apologize’ for calling Trump’s birtherism racist

Source: RawStory

Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, an adviser for Donald Trump’s campaign, on Sunday called on Democrats to apologize for calling the GOP nominee racist over his claim that President Barack Obama was born in Africa.

Following Trump’s visit to an African-American church in Detroit over the weekend, CNN’s Jake Tapper asked Giuliani if Trump should apologize to the black community for spreading the false birther notion that Obama was not an American citizen. Giuliani countered that Hillary Clinton’s 2008 campaign had started the birther movement “and finally it was resolved after Donald Trump raised it.”

“They maybe have a faulty memory there,” the former New York mayor said of the black community.

“It was resolved in 2011 when he released his birth certificate,” Tapper pointed out. “Donald Trump talking about this as recently as February of last year at (the Conservative Political Action Conference), saying that he thinks the birth certificate is false. Should he just apologize for this if he really wants to reach out to minority voters?”

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Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/rudy-giuliani-democrats-should-apologize-for-calling-trumps-birtherism-racist/

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Rudy Giuliani: ‘Democrats should apologize’ for calling Trump’s birtherism racist (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2016 OP
Kiss my azz SummerSnow Sep 2016 #1
In 2012, Trump said he has proof Obama's b-c is fake. When will he release this proof? DetlefK Sep 2016 #2
When tRump GWC58 Sep 2016 #14
Rudy has gone hard right hard core Trump oberliner Sep 2016 #3
True Enough Vogon_Glory Sep 2016 #7
There's never enough money colorado_ufo Sep 2016 #36
Called: El Shaman Sep 2016 #37
Or is that he, and others were always that hard core? LiberalLovinLug Sep 2016 #48
He was always a racist. LeftyMom Sep 2016 #56
Yes, but he didn't used to sound like this oberliner Sep 2016 #57
What a nut. nt onehandle Sep 2016 #4
NO Reason Why Democrats Should Apologize Vogon_Glory Sep 2016 #5
Arrrgghhh!!! Just fuck this fucking piece of fucking shit. How much more demented can he get? Fast Walker 52 Sep 2016 #6
We can wait for Rudy-toot-toot to start wearing a tinfoil hat to keep out the mind-control rays. Vogon_Glory Sep 2016 #8
Rudy is auditioning and building up his RW bona fides vlyons Sep 2016 #9
I agree QED Sep 2016 #47
Fuck you, Giuliani. sarae Sep 2016 #10
Ghouliani should apologize mountain grammy Sep 2016 #11
Fuck Rudy ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2016 #12
We need a mooning gif for Rudy. nt Lucky Luciano Sep 2016 #13
Why should Trump or Guiliani apologize for being racists? Tal Vez Sep 2016 #15
We are dealing with pure evil here, folks world wide wally Sep 2016 #16
Fuck off, Rudy. Man, he's beyond tiresome. catbyte Sep 2016 #17
Fuck you, Rudy. Seek help. (nt) Paladin Sep 2016 #18
The same day you apologize for Bernie Kerik you p.o.s. TonyPDX Sep 2016 #19
Republicans should apologize to America for letting thei(R) Cray Crays dominate their party. Sunlei Sep 2016 #20
Hillary's campaign did NOT start the birther movement JHB Sep 2016 #21
amen roscoeroscoe Sep 2016 #52
Right wingers only lie while moving their lips sellitman Sep 2016 #22
This truth is depressing enough Boomer Sep 2016 #23
Guouliani should apologize for continuing to speak UpInArms Sep 2016 #24
^^^ lordsummerisle Sep 2016 #50
For continuing to breathe. nt awoke_in_2003 Sep 2016 #55
There's really just a few things this can be... dakdirty Sep 2016 #25
Trump racist? No way! Botany Sep 2016 #26
Okay librarylu Sep 2016 #27
I've noticed that majority of the GOPers are psychotic Iliyah Sep 2016 #28
Fucking clown katsy Sep 2016 #29
This from the guy who says Black Lives Matter is racist. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2016 #30
Giuliani should apologize for breathing. onecaliberal Sep 2016 #31
I'm sorry that Trump's a racist. JohnnyRingo Sep 2016 #32
Did Rudy drop in an All African Americans are on food stamps during this? Johonny Sep 2016 #33
Rudy Giuliani should apologize Hayduke Bomgarte Sep 2016 #34
I am sorry tRump is causing so much embarrassment for the US. marble falls Sep 2016 #35
Rudy should apologize NastyRiffraff Sep 2016 #38
Like anybody should listen to what this jerk has to say... smirkymonkey Sep 2016 #39
Rudy should apologize for turning 9/11 into a Dreamweaver 5.0 Sep 2016 #40
I guess I missed all the apologies from dipshit donnie duncang Sep 2016 #41
Obviously both of them have onset Alzheimer's. truthisfreedom Sep 2016 #42
Shut up Soxfan58 Sep 2016 #43
Is Rudy Giuliani Losing His Mind? - Politico martin mike Sep 2016 #44
Off!!! vadermike Sep 2016 #45
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahhahaa uppityperson Sep 2016 #46
Giuliani, rewriting history since 9/11 .99center Sep 2016 #49
Jake Tapper gave information which is correct and shot Giuliani lies down. Thinkingabout Sep 2016 #51
fuck you Giuliani, you racist piece of shit Skittles Sep 2016 #53
Rudy and the Tramp The Wizard Sep 2016 #54
and Rudy, you should apologize for masquerading as a human. nt Javaman Sep 2016 #58

Vogon_Glory

(9,118 posts)
7. True Enough
Sun Sep 4, 2016, 10:14 AM
Sep 2016

True enough. Republican politicians feel compelled to run to the right of where they were even a few short years ago. It's not really a new phenomenon; they've been doing it for decades now. But it was one of the things that made me change my party affiliation from Republican to Democrat.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
48. Or is that he, and others were always that hard core?
Sun Sep 4, 2016, 03:48 PM
Sep 2016

Like the segment of their voters they have resurrected from the backwaters of America. That he had dampened his real bigotry and racism and sexism in order to win the mayorship of NYC. That after decades of the GOP, Faux News, and hate radio crafting a large base of bigots and raving Hillary haters, and having have seen Trumps' success in tapping that segment they now finally think they can say what they've always wanted to say.

Vogon_Glory

(9,118 posts)
5. NO Reason Why Democrats Should Apologize
Sun Sep 4, 2016, 10:11 AM
Sep 2016

There is no reason why Democrats should apologize for accusing Trump and Trump--GOP of racism during the fraudulent Birther controversy, particularly considering their very different treatment of Ted "Calgary Kid" Cruz during the Republican primaries. President Obama was born on American soil to an American citizen-mother, so his citizenship should NEVER have been called into question. Ted Cruz, on the other hand, was the son of a foreign national born in the Dominion of Canada, and the matter of whether his US-born mother was in the process of becoming a Canadian citizen has never been satisfactorily explored by the US's lazy-#### lame-stream corporate media.

You don't have to be a full-bore ultra-progressive keeper-of-the-flame to see the implicit racism of the Birther campaign.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
9. Rudy is auditioning and building up his RW bona fides
Sun Sep 4, 2016, 10:20 AM
Sep 2016

For whatever extreme RW opportunity arises after the election. Could be speaking fees, appointment to something in a Trump admin (not gonna happen, and he knows it), books (ghost written of course), a position on Breitbart web site, a position on whatever media outlet Ailes and Trump cook up, law fees to litigate RW lawsuits against HRC and defend RW state laws. Whatever looks lucrative. This man Guiliani is the very essence of depravity. Greed fueled by fear and hatred to achieve money and power at any costs. A man without any morals. The Republican party is a criminal conspiracy.

Tal Vez

(660 posts)
15. Why should Trump or Guiliani apologize for being racists?
Sun Sep 4, 2016, 10:45 AM
Sep 2016

They are racists. The Trump campaign is a referendum on racism in America.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
20. Republicans should apologize to America for letting thei(R) Cray Crays dominate their party.
Sun Sep 4, 2016, 10:59 AM
Sep 2016

Republicans let their entire stage of 14! running for president quit early without a fight! quitters!

JHB

(37,160 posts)
21. Hillary's campaign did NOT start the birther movement
Sun Sep 4, 2016, 11:00 AM
Sep 2016

It was a handful of her supporters who couldn't accept that she lost the nomination and turned PUMA. One person sued in federal court to have Obama's nomination be disqualified. The suit was thrown out for lack of standing.

Clinton openly rejected the idea -- called it "ludicrous" -- and NO ONE in her campaign (nor anyone who was considered a responsible adult and/or had any standing in the Democratic Party) gave it any credence whatsoever.

In other words, it was a turdball that had been properly flushed into the septic tank where it belonged.

And then Trump (and the wingnuts he pays attention to) dug it out and waved it around like the odorous, drippy, squelching thing had any substance. Other Republicans flirted with it to court voters who did believe it. Only a handful had enough character to directly reject it.

So Rudy, Hillary didn't start it, some dead-ender cranks did. Perhaps you just reflexively assumed that the Democrats simply adopt notions that are dragged up from the sewers because that's what Republicans do.

sellitman

(11,606 posts)
22. Right wingers only lie while moving their lips
Sun Sep 4, 2016, 11:00 AM
Sep 2016

Why is this site constantly picking on them?

"It is certainly interesting, and perhaps historically and politically relevant, that “birther” advocacy may have originated with supporters of Hillary Clinton — especially since many view it as an exclusively right-wing movement. But whether those theories were advocated by Clinton and/or her campaign or simply by Clinton “supporters” is an important distinction. Candidates are expected to be held accountable for the actions of their campaigns. Neither Cruz nor Trump, whose campaign did not respond to our request for backup material, provides any compelling evidence that either Clinton or her campaign had anything to do with starting the so-called birther movement.




http://www.factcheck.org/2015/07/was-hillary-clinton-the-original-birther/

Boomer

(4,168 posts)
23. This truth is depressing enough
Sun Sep 4, 2016, 11:10 AM
Sep 2016

I don't see any evidence that Clinton was involved in the bogus birther charges, but I hadn't realized that it was actually some of her supporters that participated in that disgusting activity.

That is shameful behavior. Inexcusable.

dakdirty

(90 posts)
25. There's really just a few things this can be...
Sun Sep 4, 2016, 11:15 AM
Sep 2016

Either we're seeing the last, desperate attempts Rudy is making to seem somewhat relevant, or the slow unraveling of his mind. I'm actually inclined to think both.

Botany

(70,510 posts)
26. Trump racist? No way!
Sun Sep 4, 2016, 11:18 AM
Sep 2016

Last edited Sun Sep 4, 2016, 11:51 AM - Edit history (1)

Not only did he sponsor sending good people to Hawaii to check out
Obama's place of birth but when he was working with his dad's apartment
rental company they marked all black seeking to rent an aprartment
applications w/a paper w/a big C on it for colored and those people were
turned down for housing.

The base of Trump's support is 100% based on scratching the itch that
about 25 to 30% of Americans have and that is they are pissed off a
black man is POTUS.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
28. I've noticed that majority of the GOPers are psychotic
Sun Sep 4, 2016, 11:22 AM
Sep 2016

It's like a psycho purity test in order to become one.

JohnnyRingo

(18,635 posts)
32. I'm sorry that Trump's a racist.
Sun Sep 4, 2016, 11:42 AM
Sep 2016

He can't help it, it's the only way to win over the GOP voters these days.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
33. Did Rudy drop in an All African Americans are on food stamps during this?
Sun Sep 4, 2016, 11:43 AM
Sep 2016

That guys more racist than Donald.

duncang

(1,907 posts)
41. I guess I missed all the apologies from dipshit donnie
Sun Sep 4, 2016, 12:28 PM
Sep 2016

On all the times he said Obama wasn't born in the U.S.A. and lied that he had some kind of soooper sekrit info on it. And it was all bad very bad. How about him making a actual apology for repeatedly lying to the American public. How about this rudy you apologizing for supporting and enabling this nitwit and promise you won't do anything as stupid as that again. How about you apologizing for trying to scam America saying there were no terrorist attacks in America before Obama. And do you really hate America that much that you would want to wish him on us?

vadermike

(1,415 posts)
45. Off!!!
Sun Sep 4, 2016, 01:35 PM
Sep 2016

Fuck off Rudy!!!!! My stepmom likes to say it like that (She is a strong fighting Dem) notice where I get it from ?

.99center

(1,237 posts)
49. Giuliani, rewriting history since 9/11
Sun Sep 4, 2016, 04:09 PM
Sep 2016

And getting away with it. If the msm weren't biased and were just concerned with the ratings, like the defenders around here like to argue, we would see Giuliani pressed by at least one of the entourage of reporters that follow Trumps campaign, about Trumps comments on Iraq and Bush .
I have to say though, the msm has really cleaned up their act since the primary, I don't recall the last time their incompetence caused them to get caught on air collabrating with Trump.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
51. Jake Tapper gave information which is correct and shot Giuliani lies down.
Sun Sep 4, 2016, 04:47 PM
Sep 2016

Giuliani gave FOX information, Tapper gave truth. Now Giuliani should apologize for lying, Lyin' Giuliani lying for Lyin' Trump.

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