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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 04:23 PM Sep 2016

Report: NBC News Execs Thought Matt Lauer’s Forum Performance Was a ‘Disaster’

Source: Mediaite

Matt Lauer has received a ton of criticism from fans and critics alike over his performance during Wednesday night’s Commander-In-Chief candidate forum. Now, one report says that his bosses concur with the consensus that Matt was #Laueringthebar.

CNN’s Brian Stelter is reporting that several high-ranking sources at NBC News “said they hear the criticism and agree with at least some of it.”

One executive, whom Stelter didn’t identify, was particularly blunt. “Disaster,” the executive said.

Lauer has been widely criticized for, among other things, not challenging a number of Donald Trump‘s statements, including his fully debunked claim that he opposed the Iraq War.

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Read more: http://www.mediaite.com/online/report-nbc-news-execs-thought-matt-lauers-forum-performance-was-a-disaster/

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Report: NBC News Execs Thought Matt Lauer’s Forum Performance Was a ‘Disaster’ (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2016 OP
I knew it was going to be a joke Coolest Ranger Sep 2016 #1
Hope this is his swan song Auggie Sep 2016 #2
Oh, there will be more PatSeg Sep 2016 #8
Then how about the last time he moderates any type of political forum? Auggie Sep 2016 #18
I'm sorry PatSeg Sep 2016 #21
Lauer is ten miles wide and an eighth of an inch deep. anamandujano Sep 2016 #31
But he's not even good at being "glib" PatSeg Sep 2016 #49
I could not agree with you more. anamandujano Sep 2016 #65
Trump or Lauer or both??? TNNurse Sep 2016 #39
I meant Lauer but it can apply to both Auggie Sep 2016 #47
More Media fodder for the Wellstone ruled Sep 2016 #3
And within the disastrous interview.... LisaM Sep 2016 #4
Exactly. Andy823 Sep 2016 #40
Or about torture - nt KingCharlemagne Sep 2016 #71
This Tweet! PatSeg Sep 2016 #5
It makes me physically ill how the media is liberalhistorian Sep 2016 #22
The lack of integrity among journalists PatSeg Sep 2016 #33
this media "falling all over Drumpf" theme keeps coming up in various threads wordpix Sep 2016 #57
Time to put him out to pasture. ErikJ Sep 2016 #6
He's not even a journalist metroins Sep 2016 #10
Do you think Chris Wallace? hibbing Sep 2016 #25
I think Chris Wallace is extremely biased metroins Sep 2016 #30
Wallace even occasionally Jeff Murdoch Sep 2016 #35
shouldn't they ALL be neutral? pansypoo53219 Sep 2016 #68
Real life vs Ideal metroins Sep 2016 #69
" journalistic malfeasance ", Ghost Dog Sep 2016 #7
Andy Lack was the NBC exec who pushed Lauer. ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2016 #9
Lester Holt has a lot of work to do in the 1st debate to restore NBC News reputation cause of Lauer, TeamPooka Sep 2016 #11
Haha! What's they expect from tha vacuous asshole? Didn't they watch the olympics? kysrsoze Sep 2016 #12
I read that LauerTheBar was on the short list for one of the debates. PearliePoo2 Sep 2016 #13
He should stick to what he knows--emceeing the Macy's Parade & catbyte Sep 2016 #14
and Sharknados underpants Sep 2016 #15
I forgot about that one. catbyte Sep 2016 #23
You're kidding? dawn frenzy adams Sep 2016 #53
Sharknado 2: The Second One & Sharknado 3: Oh Hell No! underpants Sep 2016 #62
He's NOT news he is TALK SHOW benld74 Sep 2016 #16
Which means he should never have been chosen. AwakeAtLast Sep 2016 #37
Ann is no longer with NBC TexasBushwhacker Sep 2016 #42
One report yesterday wheniwasincongress Sep 2016 #55
they should have gone to Rachel; she is most knowledgeable and wordpix Sep 2016 #58
I think this is why NBC execs pushed for Lauer and I bet it's true maryellen99 Sep 2016 #63
That is their modus operandi BumRushDaShow Sep 2016 #17
What I'm not understanding is why the hell liberalhistorian Sep 2016 #19
Probably because he was not a political analyst BumRushDaShow Sep 2016 #38
I want them to give Hillary back those 13 hijacked minutes that Lauer kept her on email questions wishstar Sep 2016 #20
And then he tried to cut her off NastyRiffraff Sep 2016 #48
yes, that too. No more Lauer on debates wordpix Sep 2016 #60
Love how that was HER fault Cosmocat Sep 2016 #52
speaking of Morning Schmo, did you catch him going off this morning? wordpix Sep 2016 #61
yes, this is the thing that burns me up, too wordpix Sep 2016 #59
It was a horrible performance for a horrible event that had a horrible format. George II Sep 2016 #24
so now the narrative shifts to how lame Lauer is instead of how weak tRump's statements are 0rganism Sep 2016 #26
I think Lauer's performance was by design to keep discussion away from Trump's performance. bulloney Sep 2016 #32
Pretty much true. I think MSM is afraid of tRump and the FR. It doesn't want criticism from them. Eleanors38 Sep 2016 #46
CNNMONEY: Behind the scenes, NBC execs concede Matt Lauer forum performance was "disaster" riversedge Sep 2016 #27
I emailed them last night about the double standard Lauer used. sinkingfeeling Sep 2016 #28
Just shows the regard that NBC has about vets vinny9698 Sep 2016 #29
Today Show Boy is a total lightweight. Kingofalldems Sep 2016 #34
I watched some of the after show SCVDem Sep 2016 #36
Matt Lauer behaved in a perfectly rational manner bucolic_frolic Sep 2016 #41
Bingo Scruffy1 Sep 2016 #45
exactly what I was gonna post or close to it wordpix Sep 2016 #64
My summary of his segment with Hillary Clinton: Mr.Bill Sep 2016 #43
Soooo... tavernier Sep 2016 #44
How did this happen, Mr Lauer? StrictlyRockers Sep 2016 #50
But -- despite their concerns -- he's still on the payroll Fritz Walter Sep 2016 #51
Lauer should stick wheniwasincongress Sep 2016 #54
And yet the media will do everything possible to make sure Trump wins. Rex Sep 2016 #56
"Disaster" cuz he pandered, or cuz it was so obvious?? Beartracks Sep 2016 #66
The FAUX outrage from fellow media members is laughable SHRED Sep 2016 #67
Hopefully the criticism of Lauer who is personal friends with Cheeto will make the other debate kimbutgar Sep 2016 #70

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
8. Oh, there will be more
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 04:36 PM
Sep 2016

It will be hard to define one moment as "his swan song". At least the media isn't kissing his ass anymore for the most part.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
21. I'm sorry
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 05:03 PM
Sep 2016

My brain misfired. I thought you were talking about Trump.

Yeah, this could be a "swan song" for Lauer. I never understood his success, as he is so unimpressive. What is the appeal there?

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
49. But he's not even good at being "glib"
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 07:12 PM
Sep 2016

I have a dishrag with more personality. What on earth makes this guy worth $25 million a year? It really boggles the mind.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
40. Exactly.
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 06:06 PM
Sep 2016

He should have asked that question, and asked about him comparing his chasing women during that time and not getting a STD the same as serving in Vietnam. There were plenty of things that should have been asked, but were not, and his going after Hillary the way he did really made him like like a sexist jerk.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
5. This Tweet!
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 04:34 PM
Sep 2016
Lauer: What do you think of babies?
Trump: They're very soft.
Lauer: In 2006 you tweeted they AREN'T soft.
Trump: Yes they are.
Lauer: Okay.

— Eugene Mirman (@EugeneMirman) September 8, 2016



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liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
22. It makes me physically ill how the media is
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 05:06 PM
Sep 2016

catering to and falling all over Drumpf, when he should be a pariah and his poll numbers should be near zero.. Infuriating and frightening.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
33. The lack of integrity among journalists
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 05:30 PM
Sep 2016

is appalling and very frustrating. I wonder how many of these faux journalists claim Walter Cronkite or Edward R. Murrow as their heroes.


"The obscure we see eventually. The completely obvious, it seems, takes longer." In Trump's case, a whole lot longer evidently.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
57. this media "falling all over Drumpf" theme keeps coming up in various threads
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 09:10 PM
Sep 2016

CPTV finally stood up tonight and invited two expert journalists to speak about their Drumpf research and especially about his "great businessman" claim. These two experts eviscerated Trump. Called him Wizard of Oz, PT Barnum, very important info in that interview. Info needs to get out but CPTV/PBS Newshour didn't event have a blurb about it on the web.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
10. He's not even a journalist
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 04:42 PM
Sep 2016

He's decent at Morning shows and hosting.

Whoever put him in charge of this is to blame, not Lauer. When I think of journalist or presidential moderator, I don't think of Matt Lauer.

He's done interviews before, but those are pretty tightly controlled areas. Not foreign policy and security.

This was poor planning.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
30. I think Chris Wallace is extremely biased
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 05:17 PM
Sep 2016

But I think we're supposed to get 1 left, 1 neutral, 1 right debate.

I don't mind Wallace being a moderator because I expected somebody on the right and I think he's an OK choice. It's not like they got a crazy radio host.

Wallace knows more about politics than Lauer....Lauer is a morning show host. He's family friendly fun guy, not politics guy.

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
7. " journalistic malfeasance ",
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 04:35 PM
Sep 2016

in the words of Synergie in another thread, is a huge, overall & in general, fucking problem, is it not?

Salaried media people know well who's paying, for what.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
9. Andy Lack was the NBC exec who pushed Lauer.
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 04:41 PM
Sep 2016

According to mediate, looks like he will take the hit for this "disaster."

TeamPooka

(24,229 posts)
11. Lester Holt has a lot of work to do in the 1st debate to restore NBC News reputation cause of Lauer,
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 04:44 PM
Sep 2016

better do a good job with facts

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
13. I read that LauerTheBar was on the short list for one of the debates.
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 04:47 PM
Sep 2016

At least he's been exposed and out of contention as a moderator for ANY future debates! Laurier The Lame!

catbyte

(34,403 posts)
14. He should stick to what he knows--emceeing the Macy's Parade &
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 04:48 PM
Sep 2016

bantering with celebrity chefs on The Today Show. Anything else is way beyond his narrow "talents."

AwakeAtLast

(14,130 posts)
37. Which means he should never have been chosen.
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 05:42 PM
Sep 2016

Why couldn't it have been someone with integrity? Where's Ann Curry?

TexasBushwhacker

(20,202 posts)
42. Ann is no longer with NBC
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 06:12 PM
Sep 2016

I don't know why they chose Lauer in the first place. He isn't a serious journalist and never has been. They should have used Lester Holt. Hell, they could have had Tom Brokaw do it.

wheniwasincongress

(1,307 posts)
55. One report yesterday
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 09:06 PM
Sep 2016

said that NBC execs were considering Lauer for moderating one of the debates (it went to Holt)

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
58. they should have gone to Rachel; she is most knowledgeable and
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 09:12 PM
Sep 2016

also very polite to all, even those she doesn't agree with. And she's tough and does good digging.

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
17. That is their modus operandi
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 04:56 PM
Sep 2016
"It's easier to ask forgiveness than ask permission".

I.e. - Ready. Shoot. Aim. Oops. Apologize.

They don't really care because the deed was done and per the head honchos behind closed doors-

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
19. What I'm not understanding is why the hell
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 04:59 PM
Sep 2016

they thought he would have been anything close to a good choice and why they believed he'd do anything resembling a decent job with this gig. Sure, he may their "golden boy" in some areas (God alone knows why, but they do), but that doesn't mean he'd be good for this particular gig. Actually, I think he's an all-around disaster, which is why I never watch and haven't for years, but then I'm not a fancy-pants high-muckety muck at NBC.

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
38. Probably because he was not a political analyst
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 05:52 PM
Sep 2016

because God forbid, the others that were floated out there would have been considered "too libbbbrrruuullll" (despite neither Schmuck Toad or Andrea Greenspan being anywhere near "liberal".. and Rachael would have been a non-starter from the Trump campaign).

wishstar

(5,270 posts)
20. I want them to give Hillary back those 13 hijacked minutes that Lauer kept her on email questions
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 05:01 PM
Sep 2016

Burned me up this morning when Jonathan Karl on ABC Good Morning America had gall to say she struggled last night because the first 13 minutes of her time was taken up by emails, without him mentioning it was unbalanced Matt Lauer who boxed her in on meaningless repetetive email questions while letting Trump have free rein.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
48. And then he tried to cut her off
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 06:56 PM
Sep 2016

when she was talking about ISIS and national security, claiming he was "running out of time.' She just ignored him and kept on till she was done.

He was "running out of time" because he completely wasted everyone's time for 13 fucking minutes!

Cosmocat

(14,566 posts)
52. Love how that was HER fault
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 07:46 PM
Sep 2016

and the rationalization from the "liberal" MSNBC Morning Joe folks was the whole never ending hype over the fake e-mail scandal is her fault because people keep asking her about it.

It is HER fault, they keep asking about it.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
61. speaking of Morning Schmo, did you catch him going off this morning?
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 09:19 PM
Sep 2016

He was going insane. Seriously, he's been bashing Trump all summer and suddenly he was screaming about how horrible Hillary is. And his alleged lover Mika did not know what to do but looked totally flustered. She should get an award for keeping it together while he went ape shit.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
59. yes, this is the thing that burns me up, too
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 09:15 PM
Sep 2016

SHE has to answer q's about emails but Trump isn't asked any q's about bribing elected officials.

In an alleged commander in chief forum, no less.

George II

(67,782 posts)
24. It was a horrible performance for a horrible event that had a horrible format.
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 05:09 PM
Sep 2016

That big buildup all weekend and early in the week, and they each got about 25 minutes? Ridiculous.

0rganism

(23,957 posts)
26. so now the narrative shifts to how lame Lauer is instead of how weak tRump's statements are
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 05:11 PM
Sep 2016

possible up-side, maybe this will "assist" future moderators in doing their "job".

bulloney

(4,113 posts)
32. I think Lauer's performance was by design to keep discussion away from Trump's performance.
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 05:24 PM
Sep 2016

What have we been reading and hearing all day? Lauer's poor performance and virtually nothing has been said about the lack of substance in Trump's statements and the lack of knowledge he shows on issues.

I don't remember hearing a network throwing its own employee under the bus like this article on NBC executives unless it's by design. That's like admitting the quality of your programming is inferior.

The media want a horse race. They keep ignoring Trump's corrupt and incompetent past and keep badgering Hillary's emails even though decisions and statements from agencies investigating the email controversy have said wrongdoing has been minor-to-nothing. If they would go after Trump with half of the effort they have on Clinton, they'd be coming out with new major scandals every week, from Trump U to his outsourcing jobs to questionable business dealings to bribes to his multiple incidents of marital infidelity and on and on...

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
46. Pretty much true. I think MSM is afraid of tRump and the FR. It doesn't want criticism from them.
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 06:32 PM
Sep 2016

MSM has been smash-mouthed by the FR for 30-40 years, and now with the innertubes displacing MSM, they are too beat up to fight the Right. (They don't fear Democrats since the reputation built for them is one of sniveling bully victims; i.e., you can smack them around without consequence.)

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
27. CNNMONEY: Behind the scenes, NBC execs concede Matt Lauer forum performance was "disaster"
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 05:12 PM
Sep 2016

I hope this report is true and nbc is doing some soul searching!




Behind the scenes, NBC execs concede Matt Lauer forum performance was "disaster"



http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/08/media/nbc-news-forum-trump-clinton-postmortem/



by Brian Stelter @brianstelter

September 8, 2016: 3:08 PM ET




Replay
Trump's 'liberal' economic policies
NBC News knows the "Commander-in-Chief Forum" was not Matt Lauer's finest hour.

One executive, speaking anonymously, was blunt about it: "Disaster."

The morning after Lauer's back-to-back interviews of Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, several high ranking sources at the network said they hear the criticism and agree with at least some of it.

Lauer was widely criticized for failing to fact-check or follow up when Trump falsely claimed that he was opposed to the Iraq war when it started. Some viewers thought Lauer held Clinton to a higher standard than Trump. Several people who were sitting in the audience told CNN that they were frustrated too.

The ratings for Wednesday night's forum were strong, according to preliminary data. But the reviews were pitiful.
So what went wrong? That's what journalists both inside and outside NBC are asking now. There is no clear answer.

Lack of preparation is one theory.

New York Times TV critic James Poniewozik wrote Thursday that Lauer seemed "unprepared on specifics of military and foreign policy: "He performed like a soldier sent on a mission without ammunition, beginning with a disorganized offensive, ending in a humiliating retreat." ,...............

vinny9698

(1,016 posts)
29. Just shows the regard that NBC has about vets
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 05:15 PM
Sep 2016

It should be seen as an insult to vets, that they think this issue deserves a talk host and not a serious journalist.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
36. I watched some of the after show
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 05:35 PM
Sep 2016

Holy crap!

Did I watch the same thing as Andrea Mitchell?

I couldn't stomach her bullshit pandering for tRump. Click!

bucolic_frolic

(43,182 posts)
41. Matt Lauer behaved in a perfectly rational manner
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 06:07 PM
Sep 2016

He was making his career overture to Trump TV

Won't he get a great contract offer?

Scruffy1

(3,256 posts)
45. Bingo
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 06:30 PM
Sep 2016

All you have to do to understand right wing ideology is to follow the money. Phyllis Schaffley got rich peddling her crap and so have many others. If you work in the media you can get rich kissing rich ass. If you tell the truth, you'll probably stay poor.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
64. exactly what I was gonna post or close to it
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 09:22 PM
Sep 2016

follow the $$$. If I were a RW journalist, I'd be making a mint.

Mr.Bill

(24,303 posts)
43. My summary of his segment with Hillary Clinton:
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 06:25 PM
Sep 2016

Even though I have a great deal of experience doing interviews, I have prepared twice as many questions as I know we will have time for, so we will only be able to let you give half of your answer before I interrupt you saying "we only have so much time here".

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
51. But -- despite their concerns -- he's still on the payroll
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 07:17 PM
Sep 2016

Because -- as any good corporate-media whore would -- he delivers ratings.

Thank you Bombast/Yfinity/NB₵ for Lauering standards even Lauer than expected.

wheniwasincongress

(1,307 posts)
54. Lauer should stick
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 08:54 PM
Sep 2016

to asking tough questions like "What was it like working with Tom Hanks?" and "Boxers or briefs?"

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
56. And yet the media will do everything possible to make sure Trump wins.
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 09:08 PM
Sep 2016

The media is out of control and dangerous...all for a paycheck.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
67. The FAUX outrage from fellow media members is laughable
Fri Sep 9, 2016, 11:20 AM
Sep 2016

They all have guilt to share in letting Don the Con skate.

kimbutgar

(21,163 posts)
70. Hopefully the criticism of Lauer who is personal friends with Cheeto will make the other debate
Fri Sep 9, 2016, 08:27 PM
Sep 2016

Moderators hesitant to go easy on Cheeto lest they get their own careers demolished.

In my opinion Lauer is now tarnished in a lot of people's minds.

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