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flpoljunkie

(26,184 posts)
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 12:52 PM Jul 2012

Ruling ups support for Obama healthcare, still unpopular

Source: Reuters

Ruling ups support for Obama healthcare, still unpopular

8:13am EDT
By Patricia Zengerle

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Voter support for President Barack Obama's healthcare overhaul rose after the U.S. Supreme Court upheld it but most people still oppose the law, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll on Sunday.

The online survey showed increased backing from Republicans and, crucially, the political independents whose support will be essential to winning the November 6 presidential election.

Thirty-eight percent of independents support the healthcare overhaul in the poll conducted after the court ruled Thursday the law was constitutional. That was up from 27 percent from a Reuters/Ipsos poll taken days before the justices' ruling.

Among all registered voters, support for the law rose to 48 percent, from 43 percent before the court decision.


Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/01/us-usa-campaign-healthcare-idUSBRE85S14820120701



Crucial independents increased their support of the Affordable Care Act. This is indeed good news.
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zbdent

(35,392 posts)
4. Don't forget that the polling is worded so that
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 01:13 PM
Jul 2012

those who are "opposed" to "Obamacare" are all wrapped into one nice, tidy, and inaccurate lump.

A significant portion of those "opposed" to the bill are DISAPPOINTED that it wasn't single-payer (thus "disappointed in Obama" - another poll for another smear), or that it didn't cover EXACTLY what they wanted.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,077 posts)
7. I second that motion...
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 02:36 PM
Jul 2012

... I was going ot run into here and say the same thing. The lack of single payer and way too much kow towing to the bloated private insurance rig-a-ma-roll/fat "non profits" have a good 15% of the folks, imho, saying they are not FULLY satisfied with it, yet.

dtom67

(634 posts)
9. Nail...head...hit!
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 02:59 PM
Jul 2012

I am one of those of which you speak. This bill is better than nothing, but it is not what I voted for. Fully- blown " Medicare for everyone ". The Party has moved far enough to the right on economic issues; it is time to stop. If we can spend hundreds of billions of dollars to go overseas and kill people, we should be able to afford to have universal healthcare , just like the rest of the developed world.
That is the problem with polls; you can distort them any way you want.
I " disapprove " of the bill because it does not go far enough. Yet , when the results of the poll are reported. it is assumed that the disapproval is because I am against public healthcare. Far from it. I am glad it escaped the SCOTUS relativly unharmed.
Pisses me off, but what do we expect when we get our information from the "for-profit" news media.

I don't like the bill, but I'll take it over nothing at all.

However, I am still suspicious of the ruling in terms of the GOP election strategy; Is there some advantage for the GOP in this ruling?

I feel like I'm missing something...

Booster

(10,021 posts)
3. We need to repeat over and over again that voting Republican is voting against their
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 01:08 PM
Jul 2012

own best interest. These seems to have worked with people I know. I can see and hear them go "hmmm". They hate Mr. Obama so much they may be willing to cut their own throats, which is just plain stupid.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
5. Yeah, I agree Booster
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 01:26 PM
Jul 2012

BUT how can you fight against "such hatred" towards a man and his party?

The GOP's hatred supercedes their so called love for mankind.

LOTR "Battle of Helms Deep"

.....So much death . . . what can men do against such reckless hate?

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
6. It's about time for Obama and his serogates to go out and change tthose numbers with some facts.
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 01:29 PM
Jul 2012

I frankly can't see how ANY American can want to deprive others of health care. How un-American and selfish... if not pure EVIL!

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
8. but most people still oppose the law
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 02:45 PM
Jul 2012

It goes from 43% to 48% and just because it's not 50% the narrative is "most people oppose".

Of course THAT has NOTHING to do with the media refusal to tell America that Republicans are lying about it. They just report the lies as fact and act like mentioning the party of who said the lie is enough of a caveat.

Beartracks

(12,821 posts)
12. What -- do you mean "politicize" the issue????
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 05:00 PM
Jul 2012

The GOP has already turned the issue of America's health into hay bales the size of Issa's ego or Romney's offshore investments. So I agree: Dems must trumpet the benefits of this law to ALL Americans right now. It's EXACTLY what they need to do.

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Scairp

(2,749 posts)
13. The craziness continues
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 05:05 PM
Jul 2012

People have been brainwashed into believing this is socialized medicine. When they figure out they are going to have healthcare and that their kids won't have to have rotten teeth they will get on board. It needs to be implemented before the masses can figure out that Obama has done them a huge solid.

ensemble

(164 posts)
14. I suspect the reality is...
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 09:33 PM
Jul 2012

about 1/3 would like it repealed, 1/3 would like much more, and 1/3 like various aspects of ACA, but not others.

But lets do a ill conceived poll that doesn't reflect a slightly complex reality.

0rganism

(23,970 posts)
15. of course, when polled about the actual CONTENTS of the bill...
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 10:15 PM
Jul 2012

the public tends to be much more supportive.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
16. Dems: education, education, education . . .
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 05:41 AM
Jul 2012

This issue has been so muddied by rightwing bushwah that people are "opposed" to it because they don't think they can understand it and so can't personally assess risk vs benefit.

However, ask them about ACA provision by provision, and they tend say "well, *that's* a good idea . . ."

Clear away the fog through clear and crisp messaging and approval will go through the roof. At least among those who haven't been completely brainwashed.

underpants

(182,880 posts)
17. It was 70-30 against about a month ago
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 07:11 AM
Jul 2012

at least that was the talking point.

This number is shrinking as quickly as the opposition to gay marriage.

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