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Judi Lynn

(160,644 posts)
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 10:55 PM Sep 2016

U.S. Prevents Spanish Bank from Offering Services to Cuba

Source: La Prensa

U.S. Prevents Spanish Bank from Offering Services to Cuba

Madrid, Sep 10 (Prensa Latina) The economic, commercial and financial blockade imposed by the U.S. on Cuba over 54 years ago, prevented Spanish Banco Santander from offering services to representatives of the Caribbean island in this country, trascended here today.

A press release of Havana's embassy in Madrid revealed the system of sanctions of Washington prevented the Santander from having sales outlets at the Cuban General Consulates in the cities of Barcelona, Sevilla and Santiago de Compostela.

'It is disappointing that three Cuban consulates have been banned from receiving services from a Spanish entity to improve attention to their users', lamented the Cuban ambassador to Spain, Eugenio Martinez.

The diplomat attributed those restrictions to 'obscure and unjustified unilateral decisions of the U.S. that affect negatively the Cubans and third countries'.

Read more: http://www.plenglish.com/index.php?o=rn&id=3556&SEO=u.s.-prevents-spanish-bank-from-offering-services-to-cuba

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U.S. Prevents Spanish Bank from Offering Services to Cuba (Original Post) Judi Lynn Sep 2016 OP
'obscure and unjustified unilateral decisions of the U.S. elleng Sep 2016 #1
Most US sanctions against Cuba are extraterritorial- against entities trading w/Cuba. Mika Sep 2016 #2
Which is hardly surprising since to rebel they would have needed things like weapons cstanleytech Sep 2016 #5
hmmmm...Castro seemed to pull it off. ret5hd Sep 2016 #7
Ya but Castro had access to weapons cstanleytech Sep 2016 #10
Cuba has one of the largest civil militias per capita of any western nation. Mika Sep 2016 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Joe Chi Minh Sep 2016 #22
Man...Care to repost that in English? ret5hd Sep 2016 #14
Could you be more specific ? I can't see any Joe Chi Minh Sep 2016 #23
Maybe you could explain it to me. ret5hd Sep 2016 #24
Actually, I mistook another post for this one that Joe Chi Minh Sep 2016 #25
Thank you. That makes sense and I agree. ret5hd Sep 2016 #26
Not surprising in the least ronnie624 Sep 2016 #9
Not disagreeing and I think it was a bad move by the US government to use a stick cstanleytech Sep 2016 #11
A carrot for what? ronnie624 Sep 2016 #15
A carrot to entice the Cuban government to gradually allow the Cuban people more freedom and cstanleytech Sep 2016 #16
The US dominated global system ronnie624 Sep 2016 #19
Right on . geretogo Sep 2016 #21
U$A business as usual burrowowl Sep 2016 #3
Disturbing... Deuce Sep 2016 #4
There is nothing to stop Spanish firms from operating in Cuba FLPanhandle Sep 2016 #6
Sorry, FLP, but carla Sep 2016 #8
The sanctions mean that entities that do biz in/with US entities cannot do biz in/w Cuba Mika Sep 2016 #12
I am willing to bet though that atleast some companies simply used 3rd parties that they owned cstanleytech Sep 2016 #17
Maybe. But, it's the reason that Aspirin isn't available to the Cuban health system. Mika Sep 2016 #18
As long as Fascist America can suppress Cuba and destroy its economy for 60 years it can boast geretogo Sep 2016 #20

elleng

(131,176 posts)
1. 'obscure and unjustified unilateral decisions of the U.S.
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 12:26 AM
Sep 2016

that affect negatively the Cubans and third countries'.

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
2. Most US sanctions against Cuba are extraterritorial- against entities trading w/Cuba.
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 01:41 AM
Sep 2016

The goal of the US sanctions was to 1)- cripple the Cuban economy 2)-impoverish Cubans so that they would 3)- rebel against their gov't.
Mission accomplished on points one and two. Nada on three.





cstanleytech

(26,331 posts)
5. Which is hardly surprising since to rebel they would have needed things like weapons
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 06:46 AM
Sep 2016

as well as the training in their use but since it is an island getting those things was a significant obstacle.

cstanleytech

(26,331 posts)
10. Ya but Castro had access to weapons
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 11:48 AM
Sep 2016

back then but the Cuban as a whole have had almost access to weapons to engineer any coup assuming the majority of them ever wanted to which I doubt since Castro did remain in power.

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
13. Cuba has one of the largest civil militias per capita of any western nation.
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 11:58 AM
Sep 2016

They do annual training and exercises. Members keep their guns at home.

Decades of information blackout & US agit-propaganda here have created many false narratives about Cuba ... such as yours.





Response to Mika (Reply #13)

Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
25. Actually, I mistook another post for this one that
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 11:54 AM
Sep 2016

you are referring to. However, I think the import of the post is clear enough. Here is my reading of it - under the original post :

'Ya but Castro had access to weapons back then but the Cuban as a whole have had almost access to weapons to engineer any coup assuming the majority of them ever wanted to which I doubt since Castro did remain in power.'

Castro was able to procure weapons back then, but most Cubans would have been able to get hold of weapons to lend force to a 'coup', had they so wished - which is doubtful since Castro remained in power.'

However the point is best made by Mika's post #13, immediately below it, pointing out that Castro's Cuba had a very well-armed civil militia.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
9. Not surprising in the least
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 10:15 AM
Sep 2016

that civilians were targeted by the US, and deprived of the necessities of life for purely self-serving ideological reasons. It's a standard MO of US foreign policy.

cstanleytech

(26,331 posts)
11. Not disagreeing and I think it was a bad move by the US government to use a stick
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 11:53 AM
Sep 2016

rather than a carrot which is what the US should have done.
Hopefully though things will change and the US and Cuba will both try to work together and be good neighbors.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
15. A carrot for what?
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 12:20 PM
Sep 2016

To entice Cubans to submit to further exploitation by US capitalists? It probably would not have worked. Coercion and force is usually required to relieve other nations of their sovereignty.

cstanleytech

(26,331 posts)
16. A carrot to entice the Cuban government to gradually allow the Cuban people more freedom and
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 12:35 PM
Sep 2016

more say over their own government.
The Cuban government appears to be moving in that direction now however but if the US had not had a stick up its ass maybe it would have happened sooner but all it accomplished with the embargo was to push Cuba further away.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
19. The US dominated global system
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 01:00 PM
Sep 2016

has never demonstrated a concern for human rights or a concern for the will of people. It has imposed and supported dictatorships all over the place. The sanctions against Cuba have always been for the purpose of imposing economic ideology.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
6. There is nothing to stop Spanish firms from operating in Cuba
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 07:09 AM
Sep 2016

In fact most European countries operate and trade with Cuba.

This example stopped a Spanish bank from using a US company for credit card transactions in Cuba. The bank is free to use any non-US company.

Silly article that reads more like Cuban government propaganda....no surprise, it is a from a Cuban government official.



carla

(553 posts)
8. Sorry, FLP, but
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 09:33 AM
Sep 2016

the sanctions ALSO prevent third parties from offering the services sought by the Cubans. Third party transactions that help Cuba are under sanction. You should know this, considering the authority with which you write. Perhaps a bit of research would be in order...

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
12. The sanctions mean that entities that do biz in/with US entities cannot do biz in/w Cuba
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 11:54 AM
Sep 2016

That is the extraterritorial nature of the US's sanctions on Cuba.

cstanleytech

(26,331 posts)
17. I am willing to bet though that atleast some companies simply used 3rd parties that they owned
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 12:39 PM
Sep 2016

to still do business inside Cuba regardless of what the US law said.

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
18. Maybe. But, it's the reason that Aspirin isn't available to the Cuban health system.
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 12:46 PM
Sep 2016

There are private resellers who purchase Aspirin and resell it at tourist hotel shops at a high price.

Bayer cannot sell Aspirin in the USA if Bayer sold it directly in Cuba.
Ignorance of all of this makes it very easy for the Cubaphobes to mewl that the Cuban gov't is so inept that they don't even have Aspirin... Ignoramuses agree.


geretogo

(1,281 posts)
20. As long as Fascist America can suppress Cuba and destroy its economy for 60 years it can boast
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 02:09 PM
Sep 2016

to the world how horrible socialism is like they are doing to us here by privatizing every thing under the sun
creating very rich and very poor and then blame it on too much socialism . Castro was too smart to fall for
for our tyranny .

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