Hillary Clinton not feeling well, leaves 9/11 event early

[Chicago1980]

Source: CNN

Hillary Clinton not feeling well, leaves 9/11 event early
By Shimon Prokupecz, Dan Merica and Jeff Zeleny, CNN
Updated 11:12 AM ET, Sun September 11, 2016

(CNN)Updated 11:10 am: "Secretary Clinton attended the September 11th Commemoration Ceremony for just one hour and 30 minutes this morning to pay her respects and greet some of the families of the fallen. During the ceremony, she felt overheated so departed to go to her daughter's apartment, and is feeling much better," Clinton spokesman Nick Merrill said in a statement.

Original post: Hillary Clinton came to the ground zero memorial service not feeling well and then she decided to leave the event, a senior law enforcement official briefed on the episode tells CNN. The pool accompanying Clinton says she left the ceremony around 9:30 am.
While she was making her way into a van in her motorcade, Secret Service agents helped her into the van in the motorcade, the official said.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/11/politics/hillary-clinton-health/index.html?adkey=bn

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You know how the Trump campaign is going to play this.

Current temperature in NYC is 82 degrees.

[vadermike]

1. Let em

Unless she went to the hospital And I'm usually a worrier Inn not sure how this will help the Trumpers and GOP douche nozzles

[DURHAM D]

2. Don't know about the Trump campaign

but it is playing very well on DU among a certain type of poster.

[Democat]

4. I'm the biggest Democratic supporter you'll find on DU

And this is not a good thing for the campaign.

It plays into exactly what the Trump people have been saying. It makes it seem like they have insider info on her, whether true or not.

[DURHAM D]

5. Thanks for your concern. nt

[former9thward]

11. Oh the dreaded "thanks for your concern" post.

Must send chills to those receiving it...

[Democat]

13. The Clinton campaign needs to work harder

Clinton's people should never create situations that help Trump.

All they had to do was make sure she was comfortable at the event. Would it have been that hard?

The job of the campaign is to make Clinton look strong and capable, not to throw Trump another news cycle.

I am not worried about Clinton, I'm sure she'll be fine, but this is a strategic mistake on the campaign's part.

The second mistake of the week.

[JTFrog]

33. A mistake? That she wasn't feeling well? What? n/t

[Democat]

47. If you are fighting for the future of America

You need to have a plan in case of any problems.

They said she "overheated", they let someone get video of the incident. What part of that is not a mistake?

[humbled_opinion]

106. I agree 100 percent this is about

Optics and the shame is those here in an echo chamber do her more harm than good.

[Madam Mossfern]

41. I just said exactly that

to my husband. The campaign needs to foresee any issue and plan/prepare for it.

[FarPoint]

65. Dehydration can happen to anyone...

What do you want her campaign to do????? I V Hydration prior to events? ..Next, folks will complain she left to go pee.

[Democat]

66. She should have someone with water standing by

And someone to block cameras if she does feel weak.

I expect a lot, but we're fighting to stop Trump from being president.

[Paper Roses]

78. Block cameras? I don't think this is fair to us.

If something is very wrong, we deserve to know. This is not a dog and pony show. This is an election for the President of the United States. How can you suggest that the cameras be blocked. Do we not have the right to know?

[MFM008]

88. Know what?

Someone feels woozy in 80 degrees?

[paleotn]

91. wrap her in cotton wool, by god!

Is this all we've got to talk about? Has our presidential election process degenerated to this?

[loyalsister]

94. Like FDR's Splendid Deception?

He wore painful braces in order to stand rather than allow himself to be seen in a wheelchair.

So what if someone doesn't feel good? She and Trump are both at an age where their bodies are naturally declining. That is a fact, this is our candidate, rather than demand she hide some small incident or physical vulnerability we should not allow it to be an insult.
Or, maybe they should hid the fact that she, no doubt, uses reading glasses too.

[anamandujano]

108. Trump and his puke MSM manufacture crap out of thin air.

If Hillary had a bad reaction to the heat, you can't call it a strategic mistake. They did not plan this. The MSM and their idiot candidate can try to turn this into something. My guess is that Trump's health will fail in a catastrophic incident while Hillary jaunts to the finish line.

[RBInMaine]

26. So in your mind a human being is not allowed to not feel well? You've never been ill?

[PatSeg]

55. It may not be a good thing

for the campaign, but it will probably barely last a news cycle. Though I'm sure Rudy will play it for all its worth just to get his ugly face in front of a camera.

[Democat]

63. I don't think it's critical, but it does make me question the Clinton campaign

This is the campaign's second problem of the week. We don't have time for many more mistakes if we want to beat Trump.

[PatSeg]

67. If the first problem

was the "deplorable" basket comment, I don't really think that will work against her all that much. It is possible that was intentional and started a debate that draws away from fake scandals (email and Clinton Foundation) and redirects the conversation to Trump's racist supporters. Clinton can just apologize for misspeaking, but Trump still has racist supporters that he can't disavow!

[paleotn]

90. horse shit tempest in a teapot.

Oh, Secretary Clinton got a bit overheated! The Deplorables will have a field day with this! Woe is us!!! clutching immense string of pearls


Seems FDR had a few health issues. Doesn't seem to have been a problem.

[losttherace]

112. Exactly!

And Dick Cheney had heart failure!

[24601]

111. Anybody can get sick and that's not a big deal. What's going to hurt the campaign, as NBC's Chuck

Todd alluded, it that it plays into the narrative that given the opportunity to be open and transparent, they blew it again and instead covered it up for two days. Many will now doubt that they every would have disclosed her illness if today's events hadn't forced the issue.

[William769]

6. Yes it has. She went from being over heated to fainting!

Where have we heard that one before?

[DURHAM D]

18. Next we will hear she started her period.

Oh wait...she can't. I guess that makes her less of a woman.

Oh my God -

[Bigleaf]

39. She did faint.

She fainted when they were just about to help her into the van. The video is on Twitter.

[William769]

45. Got a link?

I saw a video that claimed she fainted, but I couldn't see where.

[Rose Siding]

77. As long as she didn't vomit on the Japanese prime minister...

we should be ok

http://abcnews.go.com/Archives/video/jan-11-1992-president-bush-sick-japan-9357727

[Chicago1980]

12. What is that supposed to mean?

Playing well on DU among a certain type of poster...

[DURHAM D]

19. I am sure you can figure it out. nt

[Andy823]

15. Yes I have seen the

"Concern" patrol already doing their thing, trying to be negative without having their post removed.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

3. Like normal people never get sick, right?

Trump, et al will play up every cough and sniffle.

[Orrex]

8. It's not like she puked on a prime minister or something

Who would do such a thing?

[jonno99]

29. Definately not his best moment:

http://abcnews.go.com/Archives/video/jan-11-1992-president-bush-sick-japan-9357727

[vadermike]

7. And

Trump can try it won't help him this time Now if she was taken to hospital be different story

[Plucketeer]

21. I'm neither here nor there with this

but she falls ill and they take her to her daughter's apartment instead of a hospital - a top contender for POTUS??? That sounds more like a tactical move as opposed to one of common sense. And of course - how ARE they gonna "paint" this for public consumption?

[bullwinkle428]

10. DU pool - predict the time that Trump sends out his first incredibly inappropriate Tweet.

I'm talking about relating to this incident specifically!

[yeoman6987]

14. Trumps at the event. He may not even know until it's over

Glad he's at the event. We have some peace.

[Democat]

16. Right wingers always overplay their hand

Shouldn't be an hour before he makes an offensive post on Sept 11th.

[paleotn]

92. 20 bucks on an hour and 15 minutes.

[cstanleytech]

17. Better that she left rather than do something stupid and stay and end up vomiting on

say the Prime Minister of Japan for example.

[MBS]

22. ah, yes, thanks for the reminder on that little incident.

The bottomless hypocrisy of Republicans.

[cstanleytech]

32. Here is a video to go with it

http://abcnews.go.com/Archives/video/jan-11-1992-president-bush-sick-japan-9357727

The irony is he ignored his doctor according to the reporter.

[GummyBearz]

44. Definitely

Would not want someone in the white house that could potentially repeat that ugly scene

[louis-t]

20. How many people think 'overheated' will be

the word they beat her over the head with for the next 2 weeks?

[Democat]

24. Why not say she had indigestion or something?

What is the reason for the campaign saying overheated?

[Demit]

27. Maybe b/c it was 90 degrees out & she was out in it for an hour and a half?

Maybe they were, like, being truthful?

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

30. 90 degrees?

It was about 82 degrees with low humidity!

Still, she needed shade, water, and some good air flow. It's not like she was there in a tank top and shorts. Those suits she wears are probably hot and horrible to campaign in.

ETA - I was wrong about the humidity. The day started out much more humid.

[BlueInPhilly]

84. It was "medium to high humidity"

And if you've been to NYC during summer, when the tall buildings block the breeze and heat stays longer on the ground, you would understand what's going on.

The underground subway stations trap hot air and feel like hell on earth

[B2G]

35. Actually it's just now 81 with only 39% humidity

This happened 90 minutes ago.

[athena]

101. It was very hot this morning, especially in the sun.

It got slightly cooler as the day wore on. (This is unusual, but it's caused by the approaching cold front.) I don't live in New York, but I'm only about an hour away by train.

[complain jane]

81. Plus she's wearing bulky, dark clothing.

I'm guessing she's covering a bullet proof vest, also. She must have been hot as hell. And no water nearby.

I couldn't do a fraction of what this woman does on a daily basis. We all have our limits.

[yeoman6987]

52. First thing they should do with overheating is take the jacket off

[GreydeeThos]

110. The jacket covers the body armor

[jalan48]

23. Looks like there will be a new issue to supplant the emails.

[lonestarnot]

25. BFD. She got too fucking hot and I hope she cooled off now. Now fuck all you deplorables!

[narnian60]

31. +1

[JTFrog]

38. +2 nt

[complain jane]

82. +3

[Grammy23]

28. It is amazing to me how ordinary things

That happen to all of us from time to time get blown out of proportion when it comes to Hillary Clinton. Her "coughing spell" is a prime example. Everyone of us has had an episode of dry throat, swallowing wrong or allergic response to dust, dander or pollen. No mystery. No emergency. Just a normal bodily reaction, but Trump and his spokesmen talked it up endlessly like she is an end stage lung cancer patient.

Getting overheated in a high humidity setting is another common thing. It happens to me regularly, living along the Gulf Coast where our heat index often goes to triple digits. I sweat profusely and feel slightly nauseated. As soon as I get to an air conditioned environment, I recover rapidly.

This is getting to be old and a really dumb story every time she hiccoughs. Anyone with eyes can see her in a public setting and she is fine. Any journalist who allows them to follow this story line without pushing back is not doing their job. To allow them to prattle on is journalistic malpractice.

[ehrnst]

34. I'm a lot younger than Hillary, very healthy and did the same

When I was out in the 99 degree heat for an hour the other day.

And I wasn't wearing a kevlar vest.

[complain jane]

83. I passed out in a church at a wedding at age 23.

No a/c. I was fine with a glass of water and an outdoor breeze 10 minutes later. It happens!

[MowCowWhoHow III]

37. Definitely appears wobbly getting into van

[lovuian]

42. Best wishes for her recovery

prayers with her

[nolabels]

51. Looks like some kind of leg cramping really

That's that not a problem from weakness but more of fighting something off. Maybe she did a little too much stationary bicycling or stair-step machine in the last hotel.

Getting some kind of virus after shaking hands with thousand of people should also be expected.

And don't forget to ad some oh-no's

Even Rock Stars are not subject to such grueling schedules as POTUS candidates

[trueblue2007]

71. the video is gone

[Paladin]

40. Makes absolutely no difference to me. She's got my support and my vote. (nt)

[vdogg]

73. Seriously.

All these supposed democrats in here towing the right wing line make me sick. I don't care if she is on her death bed, I will do everything possible to keep Trump out of the Oval Office. God forbid something does happen to her, Tim Kaine is more than capable of taking over.

[Laser102]

43. I've worked in the garden and have felt lightheaded and faint. Happens when you are dehydrated.

Screw the conspiracy theorists. I just heard the jerk Brokaw suggest she see a neurologist. He would never suggest this of a man. He has never pointed out that trump needs a psychiatrist even though most people know he does.

[HereSince1628]

54. I stood on parade during military ceremonies and watched healthy young men drop

but that's not really the issue.

Anyone can have and many people do have bad days with one-off events that maybe won't mean much.

The problem is she's had a series of reported 'medical events'. I'm not comfortable with the reporting or the diagnosing of the events, but there have been a series reported.

This event was caught on video. Her inability to stand without support or to step into her transport even while supported by 2 large men isn't a rumor.

It's against that context that everyone can expect much speculation that will mostly try to find a rationalization that makes all the events be due to a common cause rather than a coincidence of one-offs.

Every additional event is going to be like oxygen blown onto glowing coals causing the media to burst into flame. Getting in front of this means doing something more than asserting a claim that everything is fine. Saying things are fine, even if they are, when they don't seem that way, is just going to work against her.

[arithia]

46. ffs.. cause no one's ever had heat stroke on a warm sunny day before

Especially when wearing nice, formal clothing as opposed to a tshirt and shorts.

Concern trolls can seriously go back under their rocks and bridges over this one. Travel makes people dehydrated. Seasonal allergies, which she does in fact suffer from, can also make you dehydrated. The sun makes people warm. This is a frakin no-brainer.

Anyone who wants to whine otherwise- that this is bad "optics" or a more serious health emergency-, is playing into the sexist "weak" narrative that the Trump campaign has been spinning for months. Give the woman some darn gatorade and a banana and call it a day.

[LiberalFighter]

48. She paid her respects for JUST one hour and thirty minutes? The shame of it.

I suppose CNN expected her to be there for one more minute.

[LiberalFighter]

49. So they have an event starting at 8:39 am lasting until 12:30?

Way too long of an event.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

74. Maybe they read the names of thousands ...

... as well as the series of long-winded speeches.

Agree - way too long.

[LiberalFighter]

89. That is my thinking. Especially the long-winded speeches by way too many.

Just so they can say they were part of it. And nothing more.

[Cryptoad]

50. Oh NO,,, I hope Trump has not gotten his hands on a VooDoo doll.....

[mothra1orbit]

53. You know what?

Even if she were in failing health, I would still vote for her. Even if she were at fucking death's door, I'd vote for her over Donald Trump. Christ, if she dropped dead I'd still vote for her over Trump. I don't care if she fainted, if she had heat exhaustion, if she was dehydrated, she has my vote. I prefer a sick or even dying Hillary Clinton over a hale and hearty Donald Trump. In fact, the only way in hell I'd even think for an instant of voting for him is if you could assure me he'd stroke out and die the next day, and even then I wouldn't vote for him because Pence.

[PatSeg]

59. Yes

If I could go back in time to the 1930s, knowing what I know now about FDR's health, I'd still vote for him. Or JFK in 1960.

Of course, I don't think Hillary has any serious health issues, but like you, I would vote for her if she did.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

56. Humid and muggy, 82 degrees according to the CNN video

Ever been to NYC when it's that way? I have, it's not comfortable.

[LeftishBrit]

57. Being a bit unwell from time to time is a universal human experience

We all sometimes get colds. We all sometimes get headaches. We all get uncomfortably hot or cold.

It doesn't mean there's something sinister going on.

Daddy Bush was famously sick all over the Japanese Prime Minister once! And while it was certainly an embarrassment, no one that I remember said that he wasn't able to be president because of it.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

75. It wouldn't happen to Trump!

His doctor wrote a note guaranteeing that Donald's health is just amazing, let me tell you!

No president, past or future, has better health than Trump!

[stonecutter357]

58. I'm not concerned at all.

[loyalsister]

95. Me neither

This is a nonissue. We shouldn't buy into the idea that it demands a defense. It happened, so what?

[Politicub]

60. I fainted in my 30s from heat

Within an hour after arriving at an outdoor festival. The temperature was in the mid 80s on a sunny day.

I suddenly felt sick. Then I asked an exhibitor if I could sit down on the chair in her booth. Next thing I know I am in an ambulance on the way to the ER for fluids. I hadn't ridden in an ambulance before nor since.

Hillary has already bounced back. Anyone can overheat. This isn't anything more than that.

[Chicago1980]

61. She's okay...

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/article101215392.html

[Chicago1980]

64. Video..

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[SunSeeker]

62. It was hot. Trump left early too.

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump was also in attendance at the memorial ceremony and left the service before it ended.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-leaves-september-11-memorial-ceremony-felt-overheated/

[Democat]

68. Good catch

Posted a thread with your info in the General Election forum.

[SunSeeker]

70. Thank you.

[videohead5]

69. Hillary Does Not Sweat

This can cause overheating.

[jalan48]

76. Hillary doesn't sweat? Odd.

[haele]

109. Neither do I. Something genetic.

I get heat-sick every once in a while when Im not prepared for humid heat. Starts out with wooziness, then a splitting headache and the need to wretch - which actually helps me feel better. Only cures are at least a half hour of shade, an ice pack, some breeze, lavender oil ( or Vicks vapo-rub on the bridge of my nose) and 8 oz of cold caffine. Or 6 hour of rest in the shade and about a quart of water. It's not the same as heat stroke, which l've had twice.
Doesn't mean I'm weak, just means I have to prepare for humid heat when I go out.

Haele

[NastyRiffraff]

72. Next Trump tweet:

She's dead. Whoever came out later is an impersonator, doesn't look like her!

[complain jane]

79. I can't imagine

running the way she has been. I would never have the stamina to do a fraction of what she does.

Pushing herself as far as she does is amazing on its own. GO Hillary!

I noticed nobody around her seems to have a bottle of water, big mistake. Someone with her activity level should always be over-hydrated.

[onehandle]

80. I've been trying to stay air conditioned all weekend. There is a horrible humid heat bubble up here.

I'm younger than her and very active, but this weather kicks my ass.

[SticksnStones]

85. I'm in NY doing an outdoor art show...

The humidity has been killer. It's a little better now but I couldn't imagine being out in this in a suit and maybe Spanx and hosiery. It's been tough enough in shorts and a t shirt!

It's a binary choice America!

Clinton or Trump. And he's clearly not presidential material.

She's been readying for this moment in time her entire life....

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

86. Well, she won't faint from the heat ...

... when she takes the oath of office in January.

[rtracey]

87. ohhhh nooooo

Ahhhhhh she must be dying, shes getting overheated on a very hot, humid, northeastern day.....she needs to drop out, she needs to quit.......I can hear it now......just waiting for the asswipe right wing media to start.....

Im surprised it hasn't been on twitter yet.....Trump is usually on thst shit fast.

[paleotn]

93. With all the challenges facing our country....

...this is considered news by CNN?

I weep for my country.

[leftyladyfrommo]

96. From the news headlines

You would think she just underwent surgery for brain cancer.

I can't stand the her and humidity like that either.

[Scruffy1]

97. If i had to listen to all those BS speeches I would be sick too. N/t.

[red dog 1]

98. Unlike Trump. Hillary hasn't kept her medical records a secret

and, unlike Trump, she didn't ask a Gastrointestinal doctor to report on her general medical
condition.

What is Trump hiding about HIS medical.condition?

[malcolmboeing]

99. staff

I think it was a poor performance by her staff. Someone should have noticed her discomfort and got her the hell out of there before that stupid van video could be make. I want people fired. Whoever is responsible for Hillary's well being may not be on her (our) side. MSNBC is playing the video over and over.

[Demit]

100. I think Hillary Clinton calls her own shots.

And the media that's against her is going to be against her no matter what. Hillary figured that out a loooong time ago. Let that reaction shot of hers at the Trey Gowdy-led Benghazi hearings be your guide to how she feels about it all. She's weathered worse than MSNBC playing a video over & over.

[Philly-Union-Man]

102. The video looks really bad. The optics are horrible.

It's viral all over social media right now. Every right winger is posting it with glee and it is rather disconcerting. This is going to be a big deal. Goddamn. 😟

[truthisfreedom]

103. Might work in her favor.

She might be forced to reveal her entire medical history, and that will force the dumpster to open his fetid records as well. Then maybe we'll see something interesting.

[Philly-Union-Man]

105. He's not going to release anything.

He's not being pressured on anything. The negative media focus is all on her right now, they need a horse race.

[madisongrace]

104. Sadly agree. :( n/t

[Snellius]

107. Depends on how much of her vote is pro-HC or anti-DT

I can't imagine any one who would change their vote to Trump even if she were gravely ill. With Kaine in their it might even make it less adverse for some.