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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 04:08 PM Sep 2016

Colin Powell Offers Uncensored View Of The Clintons In Leaked Emails

Source: Talking Points Memo

Former Secretary of State Colin Powell offered up his unfiltered view of the Clintons in newly leaked emails from Powell’s personal account that were dumped online in a password protected database that was accessed by TPM on Wednesday.

“I would rather not have to vote for her, although she is a friend I respect,” the retired four-star general wrote of Hillary Clinton in a July 24, 2014 email to business partner Jeffrey Leeds, published by the anonymous site DC Leaks. “A 70-year person with a long track record, unbridled ambition, greedy, not transformational, with a husband still dicking bimbos at home (according to the NYP).”

Asked about the authenticity of that email, Powell wrote to the New York Post, “Jeez, don’t remember this one. Best to ignore., (sic) don’t you think?”

Peggy Cifrino, a Powell aide, confirmed to Vice News he was hacked and “these are his emails,” but declined further comment.

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Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/colin-powell-leaked-emails-clintons-unfiltered-opinion

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Colin Powell Offers Uncensored View Of The Clintons In Leaked Emails (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2016 OP
Note that he says she's greedy -- and in another email complains that he lost a nice speaking gig pnwmom Sep 2016 #1
This is twice today I have seen "ambitious" used in a disparaging way for her hibbing Sep 2016 #2
Project much? Except it was Powell, not his spouse, doing the "dicking." deurbano Sep 2016 #3
And don't forget Rincewind Sep 2016 #17
That guy has gotten a pass on EVERYthing his whole career... and now into retirement. deurbano Sep 2016 #33
Amazing, isn't it? JNelson6563 Sep 2016 #29
"she is a friend i respect", maxsolomon Sep 2016 #4
And why hold it against her.... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2016 #7
Because a lot of people still only see women as extensions of their husbands. Odin2005 Sep 2016 #38
Very true... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2016 #39
Wasn't there something reported about possible editing of emails? chowder66 Sep 2016 #5
Apparently Powel has confirmed that the emails are authentic: jonno99 Sep 2016 #26
He didn't seem to recall that one chowder66 Sep 2016 #35
It just says that he is a back-stabber BlueInPhilly Sep 2016 #6
Gayle King this am on CBS saw fit to read that very line... SticksnStones Sep 2016 #8
somebody should start leaking "hacked" emails from Trump, RNC with 'interesting' comments in them. Bill USA Sep 2016 #9
Whoever hacked those type personal emails probably will only "leak them" if needed. Sunlei Sep 2016 #21
This looks like a personal email sent privately and never meant for publication. It became public Cal33 Sep 2016 #10
I agree. We all vent about people, and Powell has not been moonscape Sep 2016 #15
Didn't he accuse Clinton of lying a few weeks ago about the email advice he gave her? lapucelle Sep 2016 #28
Yes. deurbano Sep 2016 #34
Ok, no. JNelson6563 Sep 2016 #30
Really!! And in an email?? Just abject stupidity. adigal Sep 2016 #36
Amen! JNelson6563 Sep 2016 #40
wanting to be President makes her have "unbridled ambition, greedy"??? Jim Byrd Sep 2016 #11
Jealousy. eom fleabiscuit Sep 2016 #16
the other candidates mercuryblues Sep 2016 #22
Please read Msg. !0 (3 or 4 posts above yours). Cal33 Sep 2016 #24
Sexism, he probably finds her ambition "unseemly" for a woman. Odin2005 Sep 2016 #37
Colin Powell lost all credibility 15 years ago. milestogo Sep 2016 #12
This clown deserves a picture .... GeorgeGist Sep 2016 #13
Wow. I actually respected him. tavernier Sep 2016 #14
Not a national security issue but the hack was for sure embarrassing for Powell and the Clinton's. Sunlei Sep 2016 #18
"dicking bimbos"....my sides...Bill still got it. AngryAmish Sep 2016 #19
Powell lid to the UN to start a war that has thrown the world into turmoil ever since daleo Sep 2016 #20
Several of the reports yesterday claimed Powell said worse things about Trump csziggy Sep 2016 #23
Hacked emails can be edited. And I don't care what Powell says KittyWampus Sep 2016 #25
Powell confirms authenticity: jonno99 Sep 2016 #27
Authentic emails can still be altered. Did he see them all and vouch they are all 100% accurate? KittyWampus Sep 2016 #32
I'm more upset that Russia is meddling gwheezie Sep 2016 #31

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
1. Note that he says she's greedy -- and in another email complains that he lost a nice speaking gig
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 04:12 PM
Sep 2016

because they paid her too much so there wasn't enough to hire him.

hibbing

(10,098 posts)
2. This is twice today I have seen "ambitious" used in a disparaging way for her
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 04:15 PM
Sep 2016

You would never ever hear that word applied to a man. Of course the Colin has no credibility to me after that performance at the U.N. and being a willing accomplice in the crimes of the Bush administration.


Peace

deurbano

(2,895 posts)
3. Project much? Except it was Powell, not his spouse, doing the "dicking."
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 04:17 PM
Sep 2016

Somehow, St. Colin's documented infidelity, lying (about the justification for a war that that continues to have a devastating impact) and cover-ups (about actually serious matters) just don't fit the media narrative.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
4. "she is a friend i respect",
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 04:23 PM
Sep 2016

and then proceed to trash her and bill? some friend.

just think, there was a time when he could have become the 1st black president.

guess what, war criminal? YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR HER.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
7. And why hold it against her....
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 05:04 PM
Sep 2016

if Bill is still "dicking" other women? If he is a horn dog, that's on him, not her.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
38. Because a lot of people still only see women as extensions of their husbands.
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 04:31 PM
Sep 2016

You can see this in how people project Bill Clinton's policies and positions onto Hillary. Bill is a conservative Southern Democrat, Hillary is "establishment" and has some neo-liberal tendencies, but she's no conservative.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
39. Very true...
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 04:38 PM
Sep 2016

I never understood it, but then between my grandmothers and mother, plus a handful of aunts, and now my wife, I have been surrounded by strong women.

chowder66

(9,069 posts)
5. Wasn't there something reported about possible editing of emails?
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 04:45 PM
Sep 2016

I thought I saw something on that posted in GD a few weeks back. There was evidence of alterations. ?

I find it a bit odd that in 2014 he says "A 70 year person"? I take that to mean a 70 year old.
And if she was a good friend he would probably know that she was 66 at the time of the email.

Something smells in my opinion.

chowder66

(9,069 posts)
35. He didn't seem to recall that one
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 02:09 PM
Sep 2016

It's a bit weird, no?

I'm not saying he couldn't have said all of those things but the 70 year old thing and the strange contradictory language just throws me a bit. I wonder if the guy he was emailing has a copy. It doesn't matter much in the end though.

BlueInPhilly

(870 posts)
6. It just says that he is a back-stabber
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 04:55 PM
Sep 2016

I don't know if he is friends with Trump, but he said he considered Clinton a friend and he talks shit about her.

That's why I said I do not condone the release or sensationalism of anything HACKED, regardless of whether it is for the better or worse. It is a crime, it is thief, and we should not patronize stolen information as much as we would not buy stolen goods.

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
8. Gayle King this am on CBS saw fit to read that very line...
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 05:18 PM
Sep 2016

What a way with words he has....sheesh ~

The man's a declared republican for a reason...they can keep him as far as I'm concerned.



Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
9. somebody should start leaking "hacked" emails from Trump, RNC with 'interesting' comments in them.
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 05:25 PM
Sep 2016

Start flooding eager journalists with the realistic appearing emails from Republican party leadership and Trump. The 'journalists' won't bother to see if the emails can be verified to have come form RNC, Republican leaders or TRump (can they be verified?) -- Hell, does that matter?? Just print 'em! Corroborate later!


Hey, I got one:



[div style="float:right;"]8 July 2002

From: VicePresidentCheney
To: SkooterLibby, ArmitageR, ...

Wouldn't it be too bad if somebody outed that bitch Plame? That would make it seem like her husband, Joe Wilson, only got the job to check out Niger re "yellow cake" shipments to Iraq, out of nepotism and help squelch his article debunking our "yellow cake" TP in our rationale for invading Iraq. Yeah, if only somebody let it be known Wilson only got the job out of nepotism and he really doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about, that would be 'interesting'. I'm sure some of 'our boys' in the media would love to get that tidbit.

Vice President 'Darth Vader' Cheney

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
21. Whoever hacked those type personal emails probably will only "leak them" if needed.
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 09:18 AM
Sep 2016

Cheney stated he took "no notes". His government business 'emails' (public) were always very dry.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
10. This looks like a personal email sent privately and never meant for publication. It became public
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 05:37 PM
Sep 2016

only because of some email leak that Colin Powell had nothing to do with. If the above is correct,
then, in my opinion, he has done nothing to deserve such wide-spread criticism.

What do you think?

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
15. I agree. We all vent about people, and Powell has not been
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 09:41 PM
Sep 2016

publicly slamming the Clintons at all. He's entitled to private emails and thoughts. My guess is that there were many complementary things he said privately also about the Clintons. He didn't say she would be a terrible president.

lapucelle

(18,258 posts)
28. Didn't he accuse Clinton of lying a few weeks ago about the email advice he gave her?
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 11:30 AM
Sep 2016

And wasn't it Powell who was actually lying about the timing and his advice?

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
30. Ok, no.
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 11:39 AM
Sep 2016

I see this thought put forth often enough, I need to comment.

I was in politics for some years, local and state level stuff. When I was chair of our Congressional district, I knew *never* to put anything in writing I would not want the world to see. (Even at such lowly levels one has adversaries.) Shit, I learned about not writing personal things in high school decades before that.

So no, someone who has been on the world stage should not get a pass for putting that into writing, as it were. He knew the risk and it has been realized. Judging by his hopefully dismissive response my guess is he is well aware of this and is currently hanging out with some familiar acquaintances; hindsight and regret.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
36. Really!! And in an email?? Just abject stupidity.
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 02:13 PM
Sep 2016

I am a high school teacher, and I know, know, not to put things in emails. Between FOAIs and hacking, I could lose my job if I put some of the stuff I think into emails!! Not that it's bad, I just work in a very conservative district.

Jim Byrd

(1 post)
11. wanting to be President makes her have "unbridled ambition, greedy"???
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 06:41 PM
Sep 2016

why doesn't he say the same about all the other candidates for President??

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
37. Sexism, he probably finds her ambition "unseemly" for a woman.
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 04:23 PM
Sep 2016

The supposed "greediness" is just his own sexist projection. People like Clinton much prefer power over wealth, and while the idea of wanting political power is seen as somehow inherently bad, I don't think it is as long as the person wants that power to do good.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
12. Colin Powell lost all credibility 15 years ago.
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 08:28 PM
Sep 2016

I don't care what he says in his emails or anywhere else.

tavernier

(12,388 posts)
14. Wow. I actually respected him.
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 09:37 PM
Sep 2016

Thought he made an error in judgement.

Now he is trying to pin the lies to Hillary.

But as his own emails show, he is just covering up his own ass.

Damn, why don't I ever learn that these republicans are just liars???

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
18. Not a national security issue but the hack was for sure embarrassing for Powell and the Clinton's.
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 08:01 AM
Sep 2016

Now Powell will stand up like he did with Obama and say he'll vote for Clinton. All people will hear is 'dicking bimbos'.

This type of hack and leak is also a 'threat' to all who have private emails with private chat they would never say in public.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
20. Powell lid to the UN to start a war that has thrown the world into turmoil ever since
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 08:48 AM
Sep 2016

His opinions of other people's character have to be considered in that light.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
23. Several of the reports yesterday claimed Powell said worse things about Trump
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 10:40 AM
Sep 2016

But they did not discuss the Trump comments, only the ones about Clinton. If the more critical comments are about Trump why is no one covering those? (This of course is a rhetorical question.)

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
25. Hacked emails can be edited. And I don't care what Powell says
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 11:20 AM
Sep 2016

about anything.

Anyone willing to lie to the United Nations has a worthless opinion.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
32. Authentic emails can still be altered. Did he see them all and vouch they are all 100% accurate?
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 12:19 PM
Sep 2016

If he did, it still doesn't change the fact he lied to the world and helped commit war crimes.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
31. I'm more upset that Russia is meddling
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 12:04 PM
Sep 2016

In our election. How do we know they aren't holding back positive emails that would support Hillary. The email hacking is purposeful and targets Hillary & democrats and anyone who opposes trump.

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