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Stuart G

(38,448 posts)
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 08:46 AM Sep 2016

A Trump campaign chair in Ohio says there was 'no racism' before Obama

Source: The Guardian,

Donald Trump’s campaign chair in a prominent Ohio county has claimed there was “no racism” during the 1960s and said black people who have not succeeded over the past half-century only have themselves to blame.

Kathy Miller, who is white and chair of the Republican nominee’s campaign in Mahoning County, made the remarks during a taped interview with the Guardian’s Anywhere but Washington series of election videos.

“If you’re black and you haven’t been successful in the last 50 years, it’s your own fault. You’ve had every opportunity, it was given to you,” she said.

“You’ve had the same schools everybody else went to. You had benefits to go to college that white kids didn’t have. You had all the advantages and didn’t take advantage of it. It’s not our fault, certainly.”




Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/22/trump-ohio-campaign-chair-no-racism-before-obama



This comes from a county chairman (Mahoning County) of the Trump campaign organization in Ohio. She defines hate and stupidity.

No racism, during the 60s??...What was the Civil Rights Movement about? Why were laws passed to guarantee the right to vote? So, she thinks Obama caused all the racism in the last 50 years? She is racist and stupid.
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A Trump campaign chair in Ohio says there was 'no racism' before Obama (Original Post) Stuart G Sep 2016 OP
I've seen similar lately from RWers NewJeffCT Sep 2016 #1
Even if one accepted their inane belief, I never get whathehell Sep 2016 #20
Obviously NewJeffCT Sep 2016 #21
she ochem Sep 2016 #2
Boy has she led a sheltered life! Dustlawyer Sep 2016 #3
It does boggle the mind ColemanMaskell Sep 2016 #23
Where have these people been? liberal N proud Sep 2016 #4
The United States of Amnesia 406-Boz Sep 2016 #8
The US has a lot it wants to forget! Hopefully, it can't destroy ALL its recorded history. n/t Judi Lynn Sep 2016 #27
I said in the other post on her... forgotmylogin Sep 2016 #18
Hey, bigot from the republican party of Ohio try this on your tin foil hat for racism, different turbinetree Sep 2016 #5
That is exactly PatSeg Sep 2016 #6
Ohio Republicans switching minority Kerry votes to Bush votes, not racist. not even a little? Coyotl Sep 2016 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Wednesdays Sep 2016 #9
I suppose she has never heard of the Tulsa "race riot" Botany Sep 2016 #10
Ignorance, or stupidity, is one of the three poisons vlyons Sep 2016 #11
Sociology 101 ginnyinWI Sep 2016 #12
C'mon Hillary, make this a campaign ad! muntrv Sep 2016 #13
Wow! I'm beginning to think there's nothing they won't say. Nitram Sep 2016 #14
I see this sentiment expressed all the time in the comments sections of articles and social media. Chakab Sep 2016 #15
Say what???????? Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2016 #16
“You’ve had the same schools everybody else went to" left-of-center2012 Sep 2016 #17
Selective amnesia must be bliss. forgotmylogin Sep 2016 #19
This woman is a textbook case for white privilege MrScorpio Sep 2016 #22
Outstanding point, she is a perfect replica of Donald Trump !!!! Stuart G Sep 2016 #25
no, fuckwit, there was plenty Skittles Sep 2016 #24
I went to college in NC in 1965 LynnTTT Sep 2016 #26
In the 2010's I was still hearing new racial slurs Bradical79 Sep 2016 #28
Poor Colin Kaepernick probably would think (and the way I see it)... Stellar Sep 2016 #29

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
1. I've seen similar lately from RWers
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 08:58 AM
Sep 2016

Racism was "almost gone" until Obama came along...

Get a brain, morans!

whathehell

(29,094 posts)
20. Even if one accepted their inane belief, I never get
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 12:44 PM
Sep 2016

just HOW they think he "created racism".

I mean how? By having the temerity to be Black While

Being President? I will NEVER understand these people!

 

ochem

(95 posts)
2. she
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 09:00 AM
Sep 2016

is a white supremacist. Would not shock me if she is a StormFront regular. These people are all bat shit crazy but talk like they are sane.

Dustlawyer

(10,497 posts)
3. Boy has she led a sheltered life!
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 09:03 AM
Sep 2016

As the rest of us know, everything she uttered is totally WRONG!!!

I went to an almost all black middle school where all the equipment came from the almost all white middle school in the same school District. It was worn out and frequently broken. The facilities were in the same shape as the equipment. Everything was substandard, including most of the teachers.

Most jobs in the area (refineries) were taken by friends and relatives of people already working there. When we deposed 300 asbestos victims who had worked in this one refinery all of the whites started in the labor gang and were assigned to a craft (electricians, boilermakers, carpenters...) after 2 weeks to 2 months. The blacks that were hired stayed in the labor gang until they were too old, then sent to work the warehouse. Every single one of them, without exception! The black elementary school sat on land donated by the plant. In the mid 1990's black ooze came up through the playground and it was discovered that the refinery had dumped toxic waste there and covered it up before donating it.

This lady needs a real education!

ColemanMaskell

(783 posts)
23. It does boggle the mind
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 05:26 PM
Sep 2016

Under the American type of apartheid and later de facto segration, TV and radio were heavily censored, as was printed material, not just newspapers and magazines but even books. Even speech was closely guarded; most obvious is the prohibition of "foul language" in the presence of women and children, but entire topics of conversation were off limits: Any discussion of sex was forbidden of course, as was calling into question any of the arbitrary rules inaccurately attributed to religion. Racism also was a forbidden topic. Most little girls in a lot of white communities were very sheltered, supposedly to protect them, but they lived like well kept little prisoners. I'm sure this arrangement has eased somewhat over the intervening decades, but in well to do white neighbourhoods a lot of it probably persists. A girl raised like that might actually not know about racism, in the same way that she might have very little exposure to anything sexual or any ideas that are at odds with her "religion". I would not be surprised if she thought the world was created in a week. How is she to know otherwise if she's been denied access to real life educational news and experiences?
I don't know about the woman in question, but I find it plausible that a woman born in the nineteen nineties and raised in the social isolation they call a sheltered upbringing might not find out about racism until 2008 when she began to grow up and get out on her own more. It would not be a giant leap for her to conclude that racism had suddenly sprung into being, right then before her eyes, right when she first saw it; since the alternative of acknowledging reality would mean acknowledging that everyone she trusted had deceived her.
You're completely right that what she needs is a real education.
A lot of these people are not evil by nature, they just aren't very bright and they find it easy and convenient to continue to accept the fictitious world view they've been taught. The factual details of the reality of racism in this country are utterly horrifying if looked at with open eyes. People don't accept this kind of horror readily; they tend to go into denial, to avert the gaze in the way you might want to do if confronted by the aftermath of a horrific wreck or explosion. I think we need to try to help these people to find the courage to look at what is in front of them and admit to what they're actually seeing. As you said, education is needed.


forgotmylogin

(7,531 posts)
18. I said in the other post on her...
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 11:50 AM
Sep 2016

Surely she saw the Civil War happening outside her window in her impressionable years if the last 50 were a blur.

turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
5. Hey, bigot from the republican party of Ohio try this on your tin foil hat for racism, different
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 09:11 AM
Sep 2016

culture its in a "simple" form for fascist racist supporter to understand, it even has pictures that you may try to couple together, if you can get that grain of sand between your ears to comprehend what "racism is all about with your ilk.

I know it goes back past 1960's but you know you need to get the full effect to "try" and understand your hypocrisy, while you were skipping school if you went to some school, do you know how to spell genocide




https://www.warpaths2peacepipes.com/history-of-native-americans/history-of-ohio-indians.htm


 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
7. Ohio Republicans switching minority Kerry votes to Bush votes, not racist. not even a little?
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 09:13 AM
Sep 2016

This is so laughable a claim, or rather a truly tragic denial, it merits calling him out. What republicans did in 2004 was shameful and as racist as racism gets. Republicans targeted the community that most supports Democrats and switched their votes from Kerry to Bush.

The 2004 Ohio Presidential Election: Cuyahoga County Analysis
How Kerry Votes Were Switched To Bush Votes

The Ohio State Republican chair running the operation was responsible for counting one in every eight Dems votes in Ohio. And he was fired by the incoming Dem Sec. of State.



Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Botany

(70,587 posts)
10. I suppose she has never heard of the Tulsa "race riot"
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 09:29 AM
Sep 2016


Over 300 blacks were killed and a large section of the area town where blacks
lived was burned down after a phony story about two young black men abducting
a young white woman.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
11. Ignorance, or stupidity, is one of the three poisons
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 09:29 AM
Sep 2016

in Tibetan Buddhism. The other twp poisons are greed and hatred (anger). It is shocking to me to hear such stupid statements. From that woman, it's like a willful blindness to not see reality as it exists, but to cling to stupid beliefs to maintain a facade of privilege and superiority. What's even more shocking is the complete lack of compassion for those less fortunate. It's as if her attitude is "fuck you, stay in your place, and don't come around me expecting any help or sympathy!"

I keep writing posts about morality and ethics. Our country is in the midst of a great moral war against those, who harbor a deep deep indifference of a lack of compassion. Deep indifference to corruption. Deep attachment to greed and hatred and ignorance. Sadly, we live in degenerate times.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
12. Sociology 101
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 09:30 AM
Sep 2016

That's all you need to know if you have not lived through it. There is institutional racism in this country. Schools are not as good, job opportunities, etc. for minorities. Simply a fact. It isn't just a cultural thing, although that plays a role. It's the way this country is set up to systematically exclude blacks and other minorities. It is especially hard for the men, because womens' work has traditionally been menial for all races and easier to get into.

Nitram

(22,890 posts)
14. Wow! I'm beginning to think there's nothing they won't say.
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 09:40 AM
Sep 2016

No matter how untrue, outrageous and far-fetched.

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
15. I see this sentiment expressed all the time in the comments sections of articles and social media.
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 10:59 AM
Sep 2016

I actually like the fact that they're emboldened to come out at say it in public with a straight face. It lets people know where we actually stand on these issues, so we don't have a bunch of idiocy, like all of that talk about "post-racial America" after Obama's election, stifling discussion real discussion about these issues.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
22. This woman is a textbook case for white privilege
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 04:06 PM
Sep 2016

All of that white fragility she's bathing in, that's all she's known for her entire life. Basically, she's accusing the President of stirring up the negras for no good reason at all. Don't they all know how good they've had it since racism was done away in the 60's?

I'll be surprised if this person knows any black people by name at all. White supremacy has poisoned her mind.

Stuart G

(38,448 posts)
25. Outstanding point, she is a perfect replica of Donald Trump !!!!
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 07:44 PM
Sep 2016

Drump has known nothing but privilege all his life..."White supremacy has poisoned her mind. "....that is Trump, a privilege white with money .......all his life....But...he knows it all...

sure.....he doesn't know shit,,,,(my apologies to shit).....

Skittles

(153,193 posts)
24. no, fuckwit, there was plenty
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 07:33 PM
Sep 2016

but Obama's election drove SO many more of them to emerge from under the rocks

LynnTTT

(362 posts)
26. I went to college in NC in 1965
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 08:57 PM
Sep 2016

in Laurinburg North Carolina. There was a movie theater on Main Street. Black people bought their ticket out front, then went around the side of the building, went up the steps and went into the balcony. No black person would have dared to enter the lobby and sit downstairs.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
28. In the 2010's I was still hearing new racial slurs
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 12:41 PM
Sep 2016

that I'd never encountered before. All from people who grew up outside of Columbus. "Afro-Engineering" is one (used to refer to shody work). It's disgusting. Ohio was a huge KKK state in the early 20th century and that legacy is still present here.

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
29. Poor Colin Kaepernick probably would think (and the way I see it)...
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 12:55 PM
Sep 2016
If it didn't happen to them...it didn't happen (Just like some think of the Holocaust). So they would think, 'what's the big deal'?

No racism, during the 60s??...What was the Civil Rights Movement about? Why were laws passed to guarantee the right to vote? So, she thinks Obama caused all the racism in the last 50 years? She is racist and stupid.


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