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Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 10:55 AM Sep 2016

Appeals court can't guarantee Snowden safe travel to Norway

Last edited Wed Sep 28, 2016, 04:30 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: AP

COPENHAGEN, Denmark (AP) — A Norwegian appeals court has dismissed a lawsuit seeking a legal guarantee to allow Edward Snowden to travel to Norway without risk of being extradited to the United States.

The Borgating court upheld Wednesday a ruling by a lower district court saying it cannot issue such a guarantee for someone who isn't present in Norway.

An Oslo law firm filed the lawsuit in April on behalf of the former National Security Agency contractor and the Norwegian chapter of PEN that had invited Snowden to receive its Ossietzky Prize in November. The literary group had appealed the Oslo district court June ruling.

Snowden, who is currently in Russia, faces U.S. charges that could land him in prison for up to 30 years for leaking details of a secret U.S. eavesdropping program.

Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/6b9fb9e4681c4c6faba3b45cb51949e1



Enjoy your Russian winter, Edward...

As it turns out, Snowden *WAS* available for comment today, and it's just as whiny as you'd expect since Norway didn't bend their law just to cater to his massive ego: https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/781184025113133057
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Appeals court can't guarantee Snowden safe travel to Norway (Original Post) Blue_Tires Sep 2016 OP
In Soviet Russia Snow Plows You! onehandle Sep 2016 #1
Looks like another Russian winter, Comrade. nt msanthrope Sep 2016 #2
Snowden is wanted for violations of federal law...Norway has an extradition treaty with the US alcibiades_mystery Sep 2016 #3
I thought he was a Russian spy? GummyBearz Sep 2016 #4
Probably because he is a afraid Russia will turn him to the US if the US cstanleytech Sep 2016 #6
Oh that must be it GummyBearz Sep 2016 #10
LOL nope this is all guesswork but it makes far more sense than snowden being a Russian spy cstanleytech Sep 2016 #11
US is going to agree to Russian annexation of Ukrainian land in order to get Edward Snowden? alcibiades_mystery Sep 2016 #13
That's merely an example. The point is Russia would probably turn him over to the US cstanleytech Sep 2016 #14
There's no doubt Putin would flush Snowden down the toilet for next to nothing alcibiades_mystery Sep 2016 #15
Like I said though that was just an example. cstanleytech Sep 2016 #16
Sounds like he simply needs to go to Norway and try to apply for it. cstanleytech Sep 2016 #5
Too me, Sounds like Russia has gotten every bit of classified info he was worth........ Old Vet Sep 2016 #7
Putin could fly him to Norway any time he wants. But that won't happen. randome Sep 2016 #8
Problem isnt getting into Norway, if that was the case he could just cstanleytech Sep 2016 #12
At least Russia is a large country treestar Sep 2016 #9
kick Blue_Tires Sep 2016 #17
 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
3. Snowden is wanted for violations of federal law...Norway has an extradition treaty with the US
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 12:28 PM
Sep 2016

It's not clear why some people think this is a legal gray area.

He is a fugitive from justice as of right now.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
6. Probably because he is a afraid Russia will turn him to the US if the US
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 03:25 PM
Sep 2016

offers Russia the right incentive such as the US quietly dropping its objection to the Russian invasion of the Ukraine and then its annexation of the area it invaded and its very possible that such a deal could be made.
After all the US has little to no real interests in the region and they arent going to provide much real help to the Ukraine so they might decide to simply write off the entire area if it gives them Snowden.

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
10. Oh that must be it
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 04:50 PM
Sep 2016

No giant assumptions in that response, you must be employed by the US intelligence services to know all that. Which then means you just leaked state secrets, kinda like Snowden?

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
11. LOL nope this is all guesswork but it makes far more sense than snowden being a Russian spy
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 08:18 PM
Sep 2016

because if that was the case he could have simply fled to the Russian embassy in the first place.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
14. That's merely an example. The point is Russia would probably turn him over to the US
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 08:46 PM
Sep 2016

if the US offered something to Russia that it wanted.
After all Russia probably has got all the Intel they wanted from him so he has little value now which is probably why he is trying to find somewhere else to flee to for the long term.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
15. There's no doubt Putin would flush Snowden down the toilet for next to nothing
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 08:49 PM
Sep 2016

The US does not seem to care enough about Snowden to make even minor deals for him, much less something as world historical as your example.

He's an ordinary fugitive from justice. He will be arrested and transported back to the US at some point, or he will come back willingly and turn himself in to the FBI. He's not going to go the Roman Polanski route, because he's really not Russian or European and there's a limit of everybody's patience. We'll see him plead out to some charge in the next two years or so.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
16. Like I said though that was just an example.
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 08:53 PM
Sep 2016

A more likely one to happen is that eventually the US will capture a Russian agent here in the US and Russia will make a trade of Snowden for the agent.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
5. Sounds like he simply needs to go to Norway and try to apply for it.
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 03:19 PM
Sep 2016

Assuming Norway agrees with his claims he shouldnt have any problems getting the court to agree.

Old Vet

(2,001 posts)
7. Too me, Sounds like Russia has gotten every bit of classified info he was worth........
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 03:40 PM
Sep 2016

Me thinks Snowden better stay away from moving objects, And I don't think any movie is gonna help him in the real world. Russia is getting tired of his traitor ass, And wouldn't have anybody to answer to if Snowden had a un-pleasant demise. IMHO

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
8. Putin could fly him to Norway any time he wants. But that won't happen.
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 03:42 PM
Sep 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Don't ever underestimate the long-term effects of a good night's sleep.[/center][/font][hr]

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
12. Problem isnt getting into Norway, if that was the case he could just
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 08:25 PM
Sep 2016

crossover to Norway up near Nikel.
The problem is the Norway government wont agree to hear his plea for a safe haven until hes actually in their country and he doesnt want to go there unless he can get that guarantee.
Now some might say "But hes already safe in Russia why does he need a guarantee from Norway?" and the answer is because Russia hasnt given him that guarantee either which means if the US cuts a deal with Russia that Snowden might find himself in US custody which he is trying to avoid.

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