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Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 06:02 PM Sep 2016

Court: Law banning people's ballot photos unconstitutional

Source: Associated Press

Court: Law banning people's ballot photos unconstitutional

Holly Ramer, Associated Press

Updated 4:42 pm, Wednesday, September 28, 2016

CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — A state law that prohibits voters from posting photos of their ballots online suppresses a large swath of political speech and is unconstitutional, a federal appeals court ruled on Wednesday.

The law, which took effect in September 2014, made posting a photo of a completed ballot a violation punishable by a fine of up to $1,000. It was struck down a year ago, but the state appealed to the 1st U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Boston, which heard arguments this month and issued a decision Wednesday upholding the earlier ruling.

Lawyers for New Hampshire contended the ban would prevent vote buying and voter coercion. They used a hypothetical example of a boss telling an employee to vote a certain way or face losing his job and then demanding a photo as proof.

. . .

"New Hampshire may not impose such a broad restriction on speech by banning ballot selfies in order to combat an unsubstantiated and hypothetical danger," the court wrote. "We repeat the old adage: 'a picture is worth a thousand words.'"

Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/us/article/Appeals-court-says-NH-ballot-photo-law-is-9388599.php

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viguy2016

(47 posts)
2. I agree with the law that was struck down
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 06:34 PM
Sep 2016

Remember the case in 2012 where a boss threatened to fire his employees if Obama won. What is to prevent a boss telling an employee to vote a certain way or face losing his job and then demanding a photo as proof. Why else would one take a photo of a ballot, except as proof of the way they voted.

Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
5. How does preventing the posting of the photo online stop that?
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 07:18 PM
Sep 2016

The law didn't say they couldn't take a picture.

Nitram

(22,822 posts)
15. Exactly, Gore. No one would know if you took a photo and emailed it to your boss.
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 09:46 AM
Sep 2016

If you voted against your own interests to keep your job, you are certainly not going to post that photo online.

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
6. Existing law and anti-political discrimination protections?
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 07:39 PM
Sep 2016

Voter coercion is illegal as is discrimination based on politics. This law was rightly struck down as it is both an unconstitutional violation of the 1st Amendment and redundant if it weren't

 

viguy2016

(47 posts)
10. Can a person be forced to post the way they voted on line.
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 08:41 PM
Sep 2016

This is what I am afraid of. Not necessarily by an employer. Social pressure of any type also

cstanleytech

(26,294 posts)
8. Sorry but the law banning it needed to be struck down.
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 08:36 PM
Sep 2016

I agree that the whole employer thing is a risk but the law needs to be redone to simply make it a felony punishable by 10 to 20 years in jail to attempt to coerce any employee to provide any evidence of who they voted for.
That way if any asshole tries that stunt they will soon be in a nice cell.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
9. Does an employee have the financial resources to take on their boss who provides them with a check?
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 08:40 PM
Sep 2016

cstanleytech

(26,294 posts)
12. Would not be up to the employee really rather that would be up to the DA
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 08:48 PM
Sep 2016

and all the employee would have to furnish to the DA would be some evidence that the employer requested evidence of who someone voted for.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
3. Damn, my county commissioner uncle paid $5
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 07:06 PM
Sep 2016

In the 1940's and all somebody had to do is bring back something that said they voted. Not to keep their job, just GOTV. Ah, the good 'ol days.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
4. I agree with this ruling.
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 07:12 PM
Sep 2016

If the state wants to ban employers from forcing their employees to vote a certain way, then ban that with a stiff penalty. Regulate business, not individual rights. It's asinine to punish the selfie generation.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
11. There is no way an individual employee can take on their employer without it being 'class action'
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 08:43 PM
Sep 2016

cstanleytech

(26,294 posts)
14. You could easily have both civil and criminal penalties for the employers though
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 10:30 PM
Sep 2016

and if the employer is convicted either before a jury or accepts a plea deal it makes a civil case that much easier for the employee.

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