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groundloop

(11,519 posts)
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 02:14 PM Oct 2016

Top Republican Spokesman Thinks Pussy Grabbing Might Not Be Assault

Source: Mother Jones

Sean Spicer, a top Republican National Committee official, on Sunday night refused to acknowledge that the conduct Donald Trump claimed to have engaged in during a 2005 Access Hollywood taping constitutes sexual assault. In that video, which has roiled the GOP since its release Friday afternoon by the Washington Post, Trump discussed forcibly kissing women and grabbing their genitals. "Grab them by the pussy," Trump said. "You can do anything." In the days since, the press has referred to what Trump described as sexual assault. Trump's shocking comments caused women around the country to come forward with their own stories of being assaulted in this way on social media and in the press—describing it repeatedly as a violent form of sexual assault that still haunts them.

But Spicer, the RNC's communications director, refused to acknowledge that grabbing someone's genitals is sexual assault when asked about this by The Weekly Standard after Sunday's debate. "I don't know," he said. "I'm not a lawyer."

<snip>

Spicer isn't the only Trump supporter trying to claim that what Trump described is not sexual assault. Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) also denied that groping someone's genitals is sexual assault. Here is Sessions' exchange with The Weekly Standard:

SESSIONS: This was very improper language, and he's acknowledged that.

TWS: But beyond the language, would you characterize the behavior described in that [video] as sexual assault if that behavior actually took place?

SESSIONS: I don't characterize that as sexual assault. I think that's a stretch. I don't know what he meant—

TWS: So if you grab a woman by the genitals, that's not sexual assault?

SESSIONS: I don't know. It's not clear that he—how that would occur.


Unlike Spicer, Sessions is a lawyer—one who's nomination to a federal judgeship three decades ago capsized after critics accused him of racism.

Read more: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/gop-spokesman-doesnt-know-if-grabbing-genitals-sexual-assault




Sick bastards - trying to minimize what tRump has done. Jeff Sessions needs to be forced out of the Senate.
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Top Republican Spokesman Thinks Pussy Grabbing Might Not Be Assault (Original Post) groundloop Oct 2016 OP
So you are cool then dbackjon Oct 2016 #1
My thoughts exactly. A husband, boyfriend, brother, or son, would handle it like we used to. tonyt53 Oct 2016 #7
" if someone does that to you?" - Keep away from Little Marco. keithbvadu2 Oct 2016 #22
Clearly, he's thinking with the wrong head! VMA131Marine Oct 2016 #2
He also voted for some legislation Ilsa Oct 2016 #3
"I didn't know, I'm not a lawyer" lapfog_1 Oct 2016 #4
Dear Senator Sessions - are any of your children daughters? LynneSin Oct 2016 #5
And the GOPiggies wonder why there's a gender gap Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2016 #6
Let women - notably the GOP women BumRushDaShow Oct 2016 #8
It would be interesting to ask him how he'd feel if tRump BigDemVoter Oct 2016 #9
What Trump admitted to is legally defined as sexual assault FightingIrish Oct 2016 #10
Various states describe crimes differently. In Oregon, it's not assault, it's Sex Abuse III. Shrike47 Oct 2016 #37
Top Republican Spokesman is dead wrong. (n/t) Iggo Oct 2016 #11
That's 90 % of the problem: people like Spicer & Sessions do not know. :eyes: . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2016 #12
Appropriate tRump sentence: Have to grab the pussy of 29 biker gang girlfriends ... Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2016 #13
Laying a hand on another person without their consent is assault. Emilybemily Oct 2016 #14
I was having a "heated discussion" Hayduke Bomgarte Oct 2016 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Oct 2016 #16
This is where the cultural divide comes from: they hate us for our sexual exploits. randome Oct 2016 #17
You mean GOP SpokesDouche 47of74 Oct 2016 #18
Could they be so ignorant that they think Trump is talking about a kitty cat? Midnight Writer Oct 2016 #19
I have a feral female we adopted and had spayed. gordianot Oct 2016 #27
any man who doesn't think it is sexual assault, would if that happened... olddad56 Oct 2016 #20
deleting because nothing I've got is fit to print. neeksgeek Oct 2016 #21
Jeff Sessions is an ignorant fool. CanonRay Oct 2016 #23
RW greatest hits: Waterboarding isn't torture. Rape isn't always forcible. Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2016 #24
Might? ffr Oct 2016 #25
Did we blow it and run a weak candidate against him? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2016 #26
Then there is legitimate rape Motley13 Oct 2016 #28
How about I kick Sean Spicer in the balls NewJeffCT Oct 2016 #29
Add him to the "Supports Random Genital Groping" list. forgotmylogin Oct 2016 #30
Jefferson Beauregard! Sessions III ... Jopin Klobe Oct 2016 #32
What if someone grabs him by the crotch? IronLionZion Oct 2016 #33
Well someone should grab their wives, daughters, sisters or mothers genitals kimbutgar Oct 2016 #34
So, if a gay man grabbed your balls, you wouldn't think of it any differently than if he grabbed world wide wally Oct 2016 #35
Ignorance of the law Sophiegirl Oct 2016 #36
Are they the same ignorant asswipes who think women elmac Oct 2016 #38
Consider the source... gregcrawford Oct 2016 #40
Total sleezeball, just like his candidate. mdbl Oct 2016 #41
women need to start grabbing men by the crotch instead of hand shakes, pansypoo53219 Oct 2016 #42
Gives a curious spin to "Southern Hospitality" Wasn't Sessions pimped for the SupremeCourt by Bush? bagelsforbreakfast Oct 2016 #43
 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
1. So you are cool then
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 02:17 PM
Oct 2016

If someone grabs your wife or daughter by the genitals?


How about if someone does that to you? Can they say they were just being friendly?

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
7. My thoughts exactly. A husband, boyfriend, brother, or son, would handle it like we used to.
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 02:19 PM
Oct 2016

A good old fashioned ass-kicking of Trump. He couldn't have enough body guards.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
3. He also voted for some legislation
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 02:18 PM
Oct 2016

That would have hammered veterans and military families a few years ago, but I can't remember what bill it was in. And Alabama has a lot of military families living there and commuting across state lines to Fort Benning.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
5. Dear Senator Sessions - are any of your children daughters?
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 02:18 PM
Oct 2016

Would you be okay if someone just reached out and grabbed their private area without permission?

Or would you seek out whomever did that to your daughter and deck them one.

BumRushDaShow

(129,027 posts)
8. Let women - notably the GOP women
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 02:21 PM
Oct 2016

see what they signed onto. There comes a time when even they have to say enough is enough. The GOP male considers her "his property" to do with when he wants and however he wants. And they are supposed to comply.

BigDemVoter

(4,150 posts)
9. It would be interesting to ask him how he'd feel if tRump
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 02:21 PM
Oct 2016

grabbed his wife's 'pussy' or his daughter's.
These people have NO integrity, no shame, no values. And I'm certainly NOT (generally) a "family values" type of voter!

FightingIrish

(2,716 posts)
10. What Trump admitted to is legally defined as sexual assault
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 02:21 PM
Oct 2016

Groping[edit]
Main article: Groping
The term groping is used to define the touching or fondling of another person in a sexual way (including through clothing), using the hands, without that other person's consent.

[link:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_assault|

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
37. Various states describe crimes differently. In Oregon, it's not assault, it's Sex Abuse III.
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 04:50 PM
Oct 2016

Assault in Oregon generally requires injury or substantial pain.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
13. Appropriate tRump sentence: Have to grab the pussy of 29 biker gang girlfriends ...
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 02:29 PM
Oct 2016

... while the biker is standing there.

Any chance they won't recognize it as Sexual Assault and react?

Emilybemily

(204 posts)
14. Laying a hand on another person without their consent is assault.
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 02:30 PM
Oct 2016

Add genitals to that and it's sexual assault. Why those repuke fuckers cannot understand that is beyond me. They need to be taken down hard.

Hayduke Bomgarte

(1,965 posts)
15. I was having a "heated discussion"
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 02:32 PM
Oct 2016

Years ago while at a County Fair, and for emphasis lightly poked the guy in the chest. Not a hard poke, but more than a touch. A nearby deputy sheriff, came over to chill a situation that he thought might escalate into a fight. It wouldn't have. The deputy told me, in no uncertain terms, that that poke, any touch at all, can result in a charge of battery and to keep my hands to myself.

There is no way on Earth that someone in the positions of Sessions or Spicer would not know that, and to claim that ***** grabbing is not at the least battery is disingenuous and reprehensible.

However, them being rethugs, lying, hypocrisy, and the employment of double standards has to be considered par for the course.

Response to groundloop (Original post)

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
17. This is where the cultural divide comes from: they hate us for our sexual exploits.
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 02:39 PM
Oct 2016

They have no idea what sex is like because they are repressed babies who never learned how to 'master' the art of talking to women like they are people.

And so they truly have no idea of what 'grabbing a pussy' means.

Democrats have more fun. Always.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
27. I have a feral female we adopted and had spayed.
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 03:51 PM
Oct 2016

The vet wore heavy duty gloves when he anesthetised her she has a definite attitude. As an over zealous animal control officer found out it was not a good idea to grab her in her own yard. I did not have to do much to defend her.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
20. any man who doesn't think it is sexual assault, would if that happened...
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 02:59 PM
Oct 2016

to his wife, daughter or mother.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
24. RW greatest hits: Waterboarding isn't torture. Rape isn't always forcible.
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 03:26 PM
Oct 2016

Richard Nixon is not a crook.

Need I go on?

ffr

(22,670 posts)
25. Might?
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 03:37 PM
Oct 2016

Patting a woman's butt can be a form of sexual assault. If it wasn't, you'd probably see it in the workplace all the time. Putting your hand on a woman's genitals is ABSOLUTELY sexual assault!

Motley13

(3,867 posts)
28. Then there is legitimate rape
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 03:53 PM
Oct 2016


women can keep their legs together &

if raped, a woman's body has a way to shut down pregnancy

and these fools are in congress.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
29. How about I kick Sean Spicer in the balls
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 04:02 PM
Oct 2016

really really hard... I'll just claim it's locker room behavior. No big deal.

Jopin Klobe

(779 posts)
32. Jefferson Beauregard! Sessions III ...
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 04:08 PM
Oct 2016

... is still fighting the War of the Rebellion ...

... Beauregard, indeed ...

IronLionZion

(45,446 posts)
33. What if someone grabs him by the crotch?
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 04:12 PM
Oct 2016

it doesn't have to imagine a wife, daughter, whatever.

It should be what if dude gets his own crotch grabbed aggressively by someone who wants him? What if another dude grabs him?

And anyway?

I don't know who would think it's OK to grab someone's crotch like that without consent, like Trump described. This isn't normal for people I associate with.

kimbutgar

(21,153 posts)
34. Well someone should grab their wives, daughters, sisters or mothers genitals
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 04:15 PM
Oct 2016

And then ask them if they think this behavior is acceptable to them. I think not.

I wish our media would have the courage to ask every GOP member who still endorses cheeto that question.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
38. Are they the same ignorant asswipes who think women
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 04:51 PM
Oct 2016

can stop pregnancy when they are raped? What a bunch of ^^^^^^ & ####### sick m**********

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
40. Consider the source...
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 05:52 PM
Oct 2016

... congenital liars will NEVER admit a mistake, such as supporting a textbook psychopath, which is exactly what Trump is. Sessions is an irredeemable scumbag, just like all the other Republicans that now infest Congress.

I am old enough to remember when it was possible to be friends with a Republican, and simply disagree on certain issues, but venomous obstructionists like Mitch McConnell dragged the party into a cesspool of malice from which there is no escape. Those who continue to support ever more despicable policies and underhanded tactics, like those demonstrated by the likes of James O'Keefe, deserve whatever fate befalls them for being party to such obscene treachery.

I will no longer let a Republican in my house.

pansypoo53219

(20,977 posts)
42. women need to start grabbing men by the crotch instead of hand shakes,
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 08:35 PM
Oct 2016

women's lib is their bane. GROW UP!

make that PUNCH their crotch.

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