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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 11:48 AM Jul 2012

Judge: George Zimmerman's New Bond: $1 Million

Source: Reuters / Orlando Sentinel

Judge: George Zimmerman's new bond: $1 million
By Rene Stutzman, Orlando Sentinel

11:33 a.m. EST, July 5, 2012

A Sanford judge today ordered George Zimmerman, the Neighborhood Watch volunteer who shot and killed Trayvon Martin, an unarmed 17-year-old, released on $1 million bail.

It was not immediately clear how long it would take the 28-year-old Zimmerman to arrange his release.
Defense attorney Mark O'Mara said Friday that Zimmerman's legal defense fund had a balance of $211,000, more than enough to cover the 10-percent non-refundable portion charged by most bonding companies.

That's because Zimmerman's wife had testified under oath that the couple was nearly destitute when bank records show money was pouring in from a support-George-Zimmerman website at the rate of $1,000 a day.

On the day Shellie Zimmerman testified that the couple was broke, she and her husband had access to $130,000, a defense financial expert testified Friday.

Read more: http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-07-05/news/os-george-zimmerman-bond-decision-20120705_1_bond-jail-george-zimmerman

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Judge: George Zimmerman's New Bond: $1 Million (Original Post) Hissyspit Jul 2012 OP
It's not enough. no_hypocrisy Jul 2012 #1
No, it's not. He puts up $100,000 that isn't even money he earned, it's basically kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #7
Not even Scairp Jul 2012 #38
I would have asked for a detailed list of how much money is in that paypal account LynneSin Jul 2012 #2
agreed maddezmom Jul 2012 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #4
You might want to read the ruling before coming to such a strong conclusion slackmaster Jul 2012 #6
fairness?? heaven05 Jul 2012 #8
The judge's ruling has numerous specific citations of statutes and case law. It's very thorough. slackmaster Jul 2012 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #15
Your reply is insulting and adds no value to the discussion slackmaster Jul 2012 #18
Explaining why x was done according to the law is not supporting Zimmerman, its supporting the law. cstanleytech Jul 2012 #21
good point naaman fletcher Jul 2012 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #25
Huh? naaman fletcher Jul 2012 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #29
Nothing in your post was illegal or has anything to do with due process, bupkus. slackmaster Jul 2012 #30
according to you? heaven05 Jul 2012 #34
Who needs laws? Democat Jul 2012 #40
George can't tell a straight story... alp227 Jul 2012 #5
Why isn't anyone going after this stupid law???! ilikeitthatway Jul 2012 #9
It's very important that criminal defendants be eligible to be granted bond. slackmaster Jul 2012 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #16
His bond was revoked for lying to the court slackmaster Jul 2012 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #26
You are entitled to your opinions, but the judge has to follow the law slackmaster Jul 2012 #31
So the rule of law means nothing to you permatex Jul 2012 #36
Gun culturists will cover his check easily. nt onehandle Jul 2012 #10
Too Much Comet Jul 2012 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #17
LOL PSPS Jul 2012 #24
Comet, if Zimmerman's defense were really that clear, he would not have been indicted. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #20
Thank you permatex Jul 2012 #37
Trials sometimes bring surprises. Remember the OJ trial. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #39
You have evidence on this case? crim son Jul 2012 #23
Yea........... FarPoint Jul 2012 #28
The prosecution is going to have to assemble an account that fits known facts but contradicts... slackmaster Jul 2012 #32
i like it. barbtries Jul 2012 #14
He makes himself look guiltier and guiltier every time he gets listened to. marble falls Jul 2012 #33
Let me take a guess at who'll start a fundraising drive for his bail, now. Bucky Jul 2012 #35
 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
7. No, it's not. He puts up $100,000 that isn't even money he earned, it's basically
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 12:59 PM
Jul 2012

other people's money. Then he takes the rest of the money he's been given and heads for the hills.

I give it about even odds that he flees.

Scairp

(2,749 posts)
38. Not even
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 12:32 AM
Jul 2012

Five million sounds better to me and no doubt the Martin family wants to see bail set as high as possible, if there has to be an amount set at all. My bet is that he'd never be able to post that amount before he had to go to trial.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
2. I would have asked for a detailed list of how much money is in that paypal account
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 12:07 PM
Jul 2012

And then use that to set the bond.

If they had $211,000 in the paypal account - then set bond at $2,110,000.

That's my 2 cents!

Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
6. You might want to read the ruling before coming to such a strong conclusion
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 12:39 PM
Jul 2012
http://www.scribd.com/doc/99210750/Zimmerman-Bail

ETA the judge's options are constrained by law and precedent, as explained in detail in the ruling. The bottom line is that he is required to grant bond in an amount that the defendant can afford to pay.
 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
8. fairness??
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 01:05 PM
Jul 2012

why should someone give this guy any benefit of doubt, He had the option to wound if he was attacked as he says for no justifiable reason. Yeah, give him fairness! these rulings have no basis in fairness for Trayvon's dead body rotting in the ground.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
12. The judge's ruling has numerous specific citations of statutes and case law. It's very thorough.
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 02:05 PM
Jul 2012

Fairness is not the issue. I doubt that the judge would have granted bond if he didn't believe he had to.

Response to slackmaster (Reply #12)

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
18. Your reply is insulting and adds no value to the discussion
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 03:13 PM
Jul 2012

The only way justice can be served is for the law to be followed.

I have never defended Zimmerman. I have consistently said his actions were wrong.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
21. Explaining why x was done according to the law is not supporting Zimmerman, its supporting the law.
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 04:10 PM
Jul 2012

nt

 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
22. good point
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 04:50 PM
Jul 2012

I have spent my life as a liberal arguing for the rule of law and for fair trials for those accused of crimes. But Zimmerman? No way. I am going to throw away everything I believe in and start thinking that anyone who is charged with something should be just locked away and forgotten about. thanks.

Response to naaman fletcher (Reply #22)

 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
27. Huh?
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 07:08 PM
Jul 2012

Your post is 100% pure emotion and wrong assumptions, and lacking in any sense of logic whatsoever.

Response to naaman fletcher (Reply #27)

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
30. Nothing in your post was illegal or has anything to do with due process, bupkus.
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 07:37 PM
Jul 2012

The police investigated the scene and gathered a considerable amount of evidence. Back in March and April we had a bunch of people saying the police hadn't done anything and gathered no evidence. That is now clearly not true. They have a bunch of mostly crappy photos, several witness accounts, and reports from police officers and EMTs who will all probably be called to testify. They picked up many pieces of physical evidence - Personal items, blood samples, etc. which may all prove useful in determining the truth.

The Martin family didn't arrange for Zimmerman's arrest. The State Attorney's office did that. Whether or not the media circus that was created by lawyers hired by the Martin family had anything to do with that decision is not certain, and may never be known. If the SA's office was persuaded by public outcry to prosecute the case, they will NEVER admit it.

A whole lot of people have said a lot of things about this case that have turned out not to be true. Only in the controlled process of a trial is there any chance of determining with some degree of certainty what really happened.

Where were you then? Where was your righteous respect for the law then? Where was your demand for justice then?

My position has been very consistent from the beginning. You haven't bothered to check, but I've been posting about this case for longer than you have been participating on these forums. Your insulting reply, once again, adds nothing of value to the discussion. Please try to focus on the subject and not your personal feelings about me.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
40. Who needs laws?
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 03:11 AM
Jul 2012

Why even have a trial either? As long as DU says he's guilty, just send him to jail.

Response to slackmaster (Reply #13)

Response to slackmaster (Reply #19)

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
31. You are entitled to your opinions, but the judge has to follow the law
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 07:38 PM
Jul 2012
Why would I want to read more of this obviously prejudiced judges excuses for releasing this lying murderer?

It's pretty funny that you say that. There are forums where the judge is being criticized for being prejudiced against Zimmerman.

The judge must be doing something right. I hope he continues to make decisions based on the law alone. A mistrial or endless appeals because of sloppy work by the judge would be tragic.
 

permatex

(1,299 posts)
36. So the rule of law means nothing to you
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 11:13 PM
Jul 2012

well, I guess thats it, he doesn't deserve a fair hearing, a fair trial, lets just skip the trial and throw him in a deep dark dungeon and throw away the key.
I sure as hell hope nothing like this ever happens to you.

 

Comet

(10 posts)
11. Too Much
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 01:58 PM
Jul 2012

Too high of a bond considering the evidence we have thus far on this case.

Zimmerman's lawyer needs to go ahead and file for a change of venue and get away from this judge and area. He will never receive a fair trial or treatment in Sanford. Too much of a hot-bed at this particular moment in time.

Response to Comet (Reply #11)

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
20. Comet, if Zimmerman's defense were really that clear, he would not have been indicted.
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 03:48 PM
Jul 2012

He is under indictment because a trial is needed to determine the facts and apply the law to those facts.

Long way to go yet. We don't really know the facts yet. We have heard Zimmerman's point of view and seen some of the evidence. There is no clarity yet.

 

permatex

(1,299 posts)
37. Thank you
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 11:16 PM
Jul 2012

for a sane voice in this mess. Certain posters here would just rather skip the trial and pronounce him guilty and deep six him.
Myself, I'd rather wait for the jury to hear all the evidence and then determine guilt or innocence.

FarPoint

(12,409 posts)
28. Yea...........
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 07:16 PM
Jul 2012

Ahhh... please help me out if you could....what limited evidence do they have on Zimmerman? How did this all go down again? Give me a recap if you please.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
32. The prosecution is going to have to assemble an account that fits known facts but contradicts...
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 07:44 PM
Jul 2012

...Zimmerman's version of what happened.

We know a lot about how the defense is going to explain its side. The prosecution's case isn't clear to me at all.

barbtries

(28,798 posts)
14. i like it.
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 02:14 PM
Jul 2012

it SHOULD hurt to get out of jail when you're up on murder charges. of course what actually made his bail so high is the fact that he and his wife lied to the judge.

marble falls

(57,097 posts)
33. He makes himself look guiltier and guiltier every time he gets listened to.
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 08:59 PM
Jul 2012

Million dollar bonds are very serious and they make a statement about what sort of case the gov't will make and the way the bonded look with higher bonds over actual flight risk. He's going away for at least a little while.

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