It Happened Again. Another Flight Crew Can’t Believe a Black Woman Is Actually a Doctor
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Source: Yahoo Beauty
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"As I settled in to watch a movie and read a book, about 1 hour into our flight over the intercom, a flight attendant requested a doctor or nurse to report to front of cabin to assist a passenger. When duty calls it calls even if you are 30,000 feet in air
... The flight attendant didnt believe I was a doctor and told me to have a seat while 2 nurses provided medical care to the passenger.
It was merely a few days ago when Tamika Cross, MD, another young, black physician described a very similar situation happening on a different Delta flight. In Crosss situation, the passenger was unresponsive, a seemingly life-threatening situation in which every second counted.
Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/it-happened-again-another-delta-flight-crew-cant-believe-a-black-woman-is-actually-a-doctor-205952003.html
Atlanta-based Delta Airlines both times.
The previous incident:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028228925
with a link to the full article at:
https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/a-woman-of-color-says-flight-crew-refused-to-believe-she-was-a-doctor-172511091.html
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)world. Ignorance is bliss among many.
ansible
(1,718 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)there are many who fit your statement. One of Delta's contract carriers has a history of stupidness.
Judi Lynn
(160,542 posts)forgotmylogin
(7,529 posts)progree
(10,908 posts)and on the previous Delta flight, they didn't ask the white male doctor they selected to show a badge.
rpannier
(24,329 posts)Let them know you are a doctor so they can find you quickly in an emergency
Retrograde
(10,137 posts)Now, this is based on a conversation with a woman who claimed she was an emergency room nurse, who jumped over me when someone went into convulsions on a flight. After the immediate situation was dealt with, she talked with me the rest of the flight about what the standard international emergency procedures were. IIRCC, the flight attendents are supposed to ask someone who claims he/she is a doctor for proof, which is generally a card with their info. It seems like the people on these flights didn't bother to ask.
forgotmylogin
(7,529 posts)And I don't at all mean to make this her fault, but it seems like the first thing you'd grab when summoned to an emergency dressed as a civilian is that card.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)In both cases, they doctors in question were fresh out of med school.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,861 posts)I still recall with embarrassment the time I was at a birthday party for the kids in my son's class. In chatting with another mom (this was the first time we met) she said something that indicated medical knowledge of some sort, and I said, "Oh, are you a nurse?" And she said, "No, I'm a doctor."
That was about twenty years ago, and I'm still embarrassed that I made the sexist assumption. In this case we were both white, so race wasn't an issue, but I learned my lesson, and I met several more women doctors, and hope I NEVER assume a woman cannot be a doctor.
It's hard to know in these two cases how much is racism and how much is sexism, but nonetheless, it's appalling.
Oh, and I didn't even consider the age thing.
Now that I'm getting up there, I'm frankly astonished at the apparent teenagers who have graduated medical school.
progree
(10,908 posts)A father and son are in a horrible car crash that kills the dad. The son is rushed to the hospital; just as hes about to go under the knife, the surgeon says, I cant operatethat boy is my son! Explain. (Cue the final Jeopardy! music.)
The answer
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,861 posts)The first time I saw that riddle I was equally puzzled by it.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)I had to stop and think about that for a moment.
paleotn
(17,920 posts)...someone says they're an MD and I think, how can that be?....I've got ties older than they are.
CrispyQ
(36,470 posts)Me too!
Divine Discontent
(21,056 posts)get the red out
(13,466 posts)They could say "I don't care what race my Dr is.", or something to that effect. This is DANGEROUS racism. (As if any racism isn't.)
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)I remember this movie. One of the lead roles was a black doctor.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004365/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t11
Maybe these idiots stopped going to movies before this one debuted. Maybe they're just prehistoric. I hope they're not younger folks who weren't around then. That would mean they might also be working to elect:
That's one explanation.
Another could be they were part of the committee to reelect the president:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committee_for_the_Re-Election_of_the_President
...or CReeP as they've been called.
romanic
(2,841 posts)Did Dr. Cross have any ID indicating she was a doctor? If she did then yes she was discriminated against, if not then...
Eugene
(61,899 posts)In the case of the first incident, the flight attendant
took the white male doctor at his word.
forgotmylogin
(7,529 posts)Just like a policeman. Something they can keep on their person just for this type of situation. I'm sure there are young male doctors who might not shave on their weekend off and look like a scruffy twenty-something when off-duty and people might not think they are serious about being a doctor.
progree
(10,908 posts)au similar, in the previous other case, nothing about whether the white male doctor was asked. Although in that case (
https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/a-woman-of-color-says-flight-crew-refused-to-believe-she-was-a-doctor-172511091.html ) there was a lot of detail about the black doctor's interaction with the flight crew, including the flight crew asking her several questions, but nowhere asking for a badge or card or somesuch. It sure doesn't sound to me from that article that she was asked for such id and didn't have / didn't provide.... more like she was just talked down to.
Whether one is asked for ID proving one is a doctor or nurse, or asked a lot of quesrtions, should not depend on one's gender or race.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)" if not then..."
If not, then precisely what?
romanic
(2,841 posts)Or a hoax or whatever.
TryLogic
(1,723 posts)Blatant stupid prejudice by Delta personnel. I don't use Delta, and I am glad I don't. What if I needed medical attention at 30,000 feet?
Foggyhill
(1,060 posts)Most people don't want to intervene because of that
UpInArms
(51,284 posts)she's black
she's a woman
----
not an acceptable answer in this society - where only men (first) - white, then black are allowed to ... perhaps be "recognized" as being professional (fill in the blank)
Women - must fill support role only - acceptable professions - nurse, para-legal
sigh
and the bigotry/sexism is practiced by either sex ... we have been taught well, what is 'acceptable' and 'recognizable'
IrishEyes
(3,275 posts)but nurses are not just there to support doctors. Nursing is a very difficult position that deserves respect.
demigoddess
(6,641 posts)I actually prefer black female doctors to white male doctors. they are usually smarter and better at listening.
Old Vet
(2,001 posts)To get into the (use to be) Ol white man club. My ex is a doctor, She graduated at tufts university many years ago. I remember asking her why there were so few blacks graduating, And she told me how things were just stacked against most minorities. Really didn't think very hard about it at the time, But today I can only assume it must of been so hard rising above the many years of inward racism.
demigoddess
(6,641 posts)many black vets etc, and I have never felt more safe than on base. Those are my kind of people, and that never gets pointed out.
TonyPDX
(962 posts)Given the ethnic breakdown of Atlanta residents, this surprises me quite a lot.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)For example, International flight crews are often grouped together by their native languages, regardless of where they are flying.
I appreciate your point, though.
TonyPDX
(962 posts)-based crew. My mistake.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)Maybe everyone was from Atlanta.