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MowCowWhoHow III

(2,103 posts)
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 05:50 AM Oct 2016

WikiLeaks: Assange's internet link 'severed' by state actor

Source: AP

PARIS (AP) — WikiLeaks says that founder Julian Assange's internet access has been cut by an unidentified state actor. Few other details were immediately available.

Assange has been up holed up at the Ecuadorean Embassy in London for more than four years after skipping bail to avoid being extradited over sex crimes allegations.

The cramped quarters haven't prevented the Australian transparency activist from working and WikiLeaks continues to deliver scoops, including revelations that have rattled Hillary Clinton's campaign for president as the U.S. election enters its final stretch.

Calls, texts and emails left with WikiLeaks weren't immediately returned Monday. A woman who picked up the phone at the embassy said: "I cannot disclose any information." An email to Ecuador's ambassador wasn't immediately answered. London's Metropolitan Police declined comment.


Read more: http://www.sfchronicle.com/business/technology/article/WikiLeaks-Assange-s-internet-link-severed-by-9975483.php

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WikiLeaks: Assange's internet link 'severed' by state actor (Original Post) MowCowWhoHow III Oct 2016 OP
so the ecuadorian embassy has been cyber attacked restorefreedom Oct 2016 #1
A little assumptive, perhaps? Only fringe media are Hortensis Oct 2016 #2
Associated Press are fringe media? MowCowWhoHow III Oct 2016 #3
That would be, yes, but AP was not on the news reports Hortensis Oct 2016 #6
wikileaks tweeted the internet cut off restorefreedom Oct 2016 #7
I don't believe anything from Assange, except Hortensis Oct 2016 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #55
You realize Ecuador is also a "state actor", right? Recursion Oct 2016 #5
so they cut off their own internet? restorefreedom Oct 2016 #8
An AP email sent to the embassy was apparently received. Hortensis Oct 2016 #12
hmmmmm. the plot thickens. restorefreedom Oct 2016 #13
Yes, it is interesting. And, as you say, Hortensis Oct 2016 #14
I don't think any embassy anywhere allows wifi Recursion Oct 2016 #31
Not a problem cutting off one computer from WIFI access TexasProgresive Oct 2016 #48
No maybe the just shut off his Loki Liesmith Oct 2016 #16
couldn't they just change the password for the WiFi and not give it to Julian? Hamlette Oct 2016 #26
I've been to a lot of embassies and none of them have wifi Recursion Oct 2016 #33
Exactly what I thought! Lulu KC Oct 2016 #39
The Embassy still has Internet. Assange doesn't Recursion Oct 2016 #30
Guess you've seen this by now, but you're right. Raw Story says Ecuador cut him off. ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #73
Its possible. cstanleytech Oct 2016 #37
I have heard no one - even on twitter declare that karynnj Oct 2016 #27
I would not assume that Assange is using Ecuador's net connection. Adrahil Oct 2016 #46
Obama is getting his revenge hollowdweller Oct 2016 #56
Who might the state actor be? That's easy! Who doesn't want trump? truthisfreedom Oct 2016 #4
What country is he in? There's your answer. Coyotl Oct 2016 #43
I'm surprised there has not been more action against Ecuador. Adrahil Oct 2016 #9
Yes! randome Oct 2016 #17
I'm just surprised that he is threatening Ecuador as well as the UK and US karynnj Oct 2016 #28
Good fuck Julian Assange i hope Guantanamo Bay is next for him. stonecutter357 Oct 2016 #10
.. Cha Oct 2016 #23
Good morning Cha. stonecutter357 Oct 2016 #32
Good mornin', stonecutter Cha Oct 2016 #35
Tell him to check the cable. Jeebus, this is news? nt msanthrope Oct 2016 #15
lol he should turn it off and reboot treestar Oct 2016 #58
Fk Assange! Hatemonger Oct 2016 #18
considering he's asking for money again DemonGoddess Oct 2016 #19
Has he tried bmstee01 Oct 2016 #20
Thank you! Lulu KC Oct 2016 #40
Hello.... underpants Oct 2016 #50
.... treestar Oct 2016 #60
How many lights are showing on the front of his router? nt Codeine Oct 2016 #21
Ecuador has been complicit in the illegal hacking and destruction of our citizen's privacy rights. Trust Buster Oct 2016 #22
Never a fan of Wikileaks bucolic_frolic Oct 2016 #24
Probably the CIA/NSA. Good for them. BlueEye Oct 2016 #25
This would certainly be appropriate retalliation groundloop Oct 2016 #71
If the source is unidentified, how can Assange know it was a "state actor" apnu Oct 2016 #29
What we have here is what the techs call a PICNIC Tarc Oct 2016 #34
Ooh that's much better than PEBCAK underpants Oct 2016 #54
that's great! treestar Oct 2016 #61
why do they kill the messenger when it's the thief of files 'they' should go after? Sunlei Oct 2016 #36
Might we next see hacked emails from the Assange server between him and Putin's minions WheelWalker Oct 2016 #80
Serve him right Coolest Ranger Oct 2016 #38
I wonder what this thread would have looked like a few years ago... nt Dreamer Tatum Oct 2016 #41
Good point n/t underpants Oct 2016 #52
Indeed. Nice to see an absence of rape apologia. nt msanthrope Oct 2016 #62
That's part of why I don't trust groupthink Dreamer Tatum Oct 2016 #68
It's all so sad. azmom Oct 2016 #72
All they need is a satellite link... Helen Borg Oct 2016 #42
Or he just needs a new router, and is fishing for an excuse to not release all those emails he underahedgerow Oct 2016 #44
Shouldn't he just have the Evil-Empire that he is working for just beam him one over? nolabels Oct 2016 #49
Yeah, I'm in the EU and the UK most of the time. When my 'router' goes out, I just use my underahedgerow Oct 2016 #65
Sometimes it almost sounds like they are spinning yarns from 'Get Smart' nolabels Oct 2016 #66
Wonder if Ecuadorean Embassy in London would let me come stay awhile? Cryptoad Oct 2016 #45
LOL Loki Liesmith Oct 2016 #47
Damn. No more LOLcats underpants Oct 2016 #51
Assange ..."after skipping bail to avoid being extradited over sex crimes allegations" Agnosticsherbet Oct 2016 #53
Rumors and more rumors... Adrahil Oct 2016 #57
was this what joe was talking about? mopinko Oct 2016 #59
Publicity whoring, plain and simple Blue_Tires Oct 2016 #63
Can anyone else access their webpages? Cerridwen Oct 2016 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author kestrel91316 Oct 2016 #69
Yup. That's what happened. Ecuador shut him down. ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #74
The GOP loves their sexual predators Hatemonger Oct 2016 #70
Probably due to new allegations Assange regarding cybering an 8 year old. joshcryer Oct 2016 #75
Another sexual predator, oh, well, good his access has been denied. Thinkingabout Oct 2016 #76
Yep, Ecuador fights against trafficking in their own country. joshcryer Oct 2016 #77
He'll again say it was a conspiracy to entrap him Foggyhill Oct 2016 #78
If they got the pics he's done. joshcryer Oct 2016 #79
It's not us. I checked. Kennah Oct 2016 #81

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
1. so the ecuadorian embassy has been cyber attacked
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 06:18 AM
Oct 2016

with modern internet (especially in London), it's not like JUST Assange's internet was cut off, must be the whole embassy. so the country of ecuador is under cyber attack, it seems, by the actor responsible. based on what biden/obama have been saying about cyberattacks, this would seem to be quite an aggressive act against Ecuador, and possibly by default, the UK.



Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
2. A little assumptive, perhaps? Only fringe media are
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 06:22 AM
Oct 2016

reporting on this so far, others with investigative abilities no doubt...investigating before reporting, but I see nothing about cyber attack on Ecuador via its embassy. I'd guess Assange would know if his access had been cut, but at this point he has no credibility with me and I take nothing from him at face value. He is asking for money, btw, to help fight this whatever.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. That would be, yes, but AP was not on the news reports
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 06:26 AM
Oct 2016

I googled a short while ago, or buried a couple screens down. Just saw their release, which merely reports Assange's claim. The only new information is that the embassy would not discuss and did not answer an email that was sent to it -- not reported as undeliverable. Nothing about cyber attack on Ecuador.

(Btw, AP no longer has my trust either. It's ability to blanket our entire nation with disinformation combined with willingness to pursue undisclosed agendas is very dangerous.)

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
7. wikileaks tweeted the internet cut off
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 06:27 AM
Oct 2016

so it seems they have verified it themselves. i suppose there is a small possibility that some cable/technical issue is the reason for the loss of service, but wikileaks in their tweet believes it to be an intentional act.

if it was accidental/technical, i would expect wikileaks/assange to have internet power restored pretty quicky. if intentional, not so much.

but if it is intentional, i don't know how to interpret it other than a cyber attack. and in order to be effective, it would have to be against the entire embassy, i.e., Ecuador.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. I don't believe anything from Assange, except
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 06:32 AM
Oct 2016
possibly his claim that he needs money. More information coming, no doubt, from more reliable sources.

Response to restorefreedom (Reply #7)

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
8. so they cut off their own internet?
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 06:29 AM
Oct 2016

seems extreme, but of course, technically possible. not sure what there is to gain from it. if assange is in danger, he is not going to go running out of the embassy just because he has no internet. not sure what their rationale would be.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
13. hmmmmm. the plot thickens.
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 06:37 AM
Oct 2016

so if they cut it off just to his room (i guess they are in the stone age and have no wifi), then they are clearly being pressure by outside entities to silence assange.

i don't see this ending well. censorship is never popular, no matter who it is or what they have to say.

kind of irrelevant, though. assange has said many times it doesn't all depend on him. whatever he has will get out anyway.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. Yes, it is interesting. And, as you say,
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 06:40 AM
Oct 2016

if other actors want to get stuff out, they can do it some other way. He's damaged the Wikileaks brand so badly that it's probably lost a lot of its utility anyway.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
48. Not a problem cutting off one computer from WIFI access
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 09:43 AM
Oct 2016

Do it by MAC address. But if I were in charge of security at the embassy I would not use WIFI. It would all be hard wired. Broadcasting your data and having an open door to intruders is stupid.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
26. couldn't they just change the password for the WiFi and not give it to Julian?
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 08:01 AM
Oct 2016

what do I know? Seems like it would work.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
33. I've been to a lot of embassies and none of them have wifi
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 08:15 AM
Oct 2016

Keep in mind the Diplomatoc Corps still send each other messages in all capital letters because that made telegraphy easier. Though banning wifi makes a lot of sense.

ColemanMaskell

(783 posts)
73. Guess you've seen this by now, but you're right. Raw Story says Ecuador cut him off.
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 08:19 PM
Oct 2016
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/10/wikileaks-now-claims-ecuador-cut-off-julian-assanges-internet-access/

... WikiLeaks said on Monday that its founder Julian Assange’s internet was shut down by the government of Ecuador, deflecting blame from the U.S. or British governments who have sparred with Assange for releasing sensitive material.

“We can confirm Ecuador cut off Assange’s internet access Saturday, 5pm GMT, shortly after publication of (Hillary) Clinton’s Goldman Sachs speechs (sic),” the statement from WikiLeaks said.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
37. Its possible.
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 08:19 AM
Oct 2016

The most likely causes though are either someone had an accident somewhere and took a line out, some idiot cut a line digging or in my case a tech working outside screwed up when they were working on something for someone else in the area outside which has unfortunately happened to me 3 times this year alone.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
27. I have heard no one - even on twitter declare that
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 08:02 AM
Oct 2016

It sounds like the UK and US pushed Ecuador to cut off Assange's internet connection. His fans on twitter are blasting Kerry and others for leaning on "a sovereign country". Yet, it is Assange who is threatening the UK foreign office, Ecuador and Kerry personally with drops of emails. Anyone else think that Assange threatening Ecuador is not very bright?

This shows THEIR sense of entitlement. Wikileaks, with the help of Russia, illegally hacked the DNC and John Podesta's email and then made it public. Had a left leaning group hacked Trump's campaign and put things out they would be screaming to put them in prison!

Here, taking away his internet access seems reasonable after what he has done. In fact, this is a very proportionate thing to do - far from a cyber attack on Russia or something else extreme. I hope his "time out" lasts through the election. He has certainly shown his true colors.

By the way, there is something really telling about who the Trump people are when they have Roger Stone complaining about John Kerry. Not to mention, arguing that he is London "to get Assange" - instead of what have to be tough meeting on what to do on Syria and Yemen. Obviously, neither Kerry or Boris Johnson had to even be in the country when this was done.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
46. I would not assume that Assange is using Ecuador's net connection.
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 09:12 AM
Oct 2016

If he were, they would be directly implicated in in espionage against the United States. I doubt they would go that far.

truthisfreedom

(23,148 posts)
4. Who might the state actor be? That's easy! Who doesn't want trump?
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 06:24 AM
Oct 2016

I guess Russia didn't cut their internet. Nor North Korea.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
43. What country is he in? There's your answer.
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 08:47 AM
Oct 2016

Unless Ecuador decided he doesn't get internet access.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
9. I'm surprised there has not been more action against Ecuador.
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 06:30 AM
Oct 2016

It's one thing to grant asylum to a person. It's another to do so for a person who continues to interfere in the U.S. Electoral process.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
17. Yes!
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 06:57 AM
Oct 2016

I wonder if there aren't U.K./American talks with Ecuador to keep this Australian clown from continuing to interfere in election processes.

Of course some Assange worshipers would claim that this is proof that Obama is out to 'get' Assange.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)
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karynnj

(59,503 posts)
28. I'm just surprised that he is threatening Ecuador as well as the UK and US
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 08:08 AM
Oct 2016

It is pretty ironic that Roger Stone, whose name is synonymous with dirty tricks, is leading the outrage. If what we are seeing is correct it is a really good proportionate response - silencing Assange. The fact is that the Trump folks would scream if their communications were leaked.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
22. Ecuador has been complicit in the illegal hacking and destruction of our citizen's privacy rights.
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 07:48 AM
Oct 2016

You will see no tears being shed from me.

bucolic_frolic

(43,173 posts)
24. Never a fan of Wikileaks
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 08:00 AM
Oct 2016

or other leakers such as Snowden. Laundry is not policy. Process
is not outcome. Deliberation is not law.

Total transparency in government is like forcing businesses to
divulge all wholesale costs for the goods they sell and allowing
consumers to pay as little as possible

All institutions have some degree of privacy as a means of
remaining as an ongoing entity. The instantaneous availability
of total information is a recipe for chaos.

BlueEye

(449 posts)
25. Probably the CIA/NSA. Good for them.
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 08:00 AM
Oct 2016

NBC was reporting last week that a retaliatory hack on Putin is also planned by the aforementioned agencies.

You mess with our elections, try to get an authoritarian pro-Russia blowhard elected as POTUS, we will hit back. That's the message they're sending.

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
71. This would certainly be appropriate retalliation
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 12:38 PM
Oct 2016

When I'd first heard rumors that the CIA was planning a cyber counter-attack against Russia I'd felt like we were in danger of starting a shit-storm we might not be able to end. However, I wholeheartedly applaud this action if it's of our doing. PERFECT response to all that's been going down between tRump and his best friends Putin and Assange.

underpants

(182,823 posts)
54. Ooh that's much better than PEBCAK
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 10:20 AM
Oct 2016

Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard

Thanks

"ID10T Error" is another of my faves.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
36. why do they kill the messenger when it's the thief of files 'they' should go after?
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 08:18 AM
Oct 2016

It is wrong to 'fence' stolen files of course. But the fence needs to remain in business to catch the thief.

WheelWalker

(8,955 posts)
80. Might we next see hacked emails from the Assange server between him and Putin's minions
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 09:14 PM
Oct 2016

discussing their DNC email heist? That would be a little embarrassing, I would think.

Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)
38. Serve him right
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 08:21 AM
Oct 2016

for posting bull shit stories in the first place. Will be glad when his behind winds up in handcuffs along with his home boy Snowden

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
49. Shouldn't he just have the Evil-Empire that he is working for just beam him one over?
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 10:08 AM
Oct 2016

I am sure they have one waiting in the transporter room

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
65. Yeah, I'm in the EU and the UK most of the time. When my 'router' goes out, I just use my
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 11:36 AM
Oct 2016

wifi sharing function on my phone. Takes 10 seconds to connect all my devices.

I'm sensing some trumpesquian blame shifting going on there.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
66. Sometimes it almost sounds like they are spinning yarns from 'Get Smart'
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 12:01 PM
Oct 2016

Ask yourself, if you were legit (however that could be) would announce you were without an internet connection or would you just be silent about it and find a way around it?


Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
53. Assange ..."after skipping bail to avoid being extradited over sex crimes allegations"
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 10:19 AM
Oct 2016

I've detested that whiny-assed narcissist from the beginning.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
57. Rumors and more rumors...
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 10:42 AM
Oct 2016

So now one of my favorite right-wing sites to troll claims that Assange MAY be on private jet about to land in the U.S. They are not sure if he was "rescued" by Trump or snatched somehow by UK and US intelligence. I personally think it's unlikely, b ut if he IS on that jet, he is not being "rescued." If he is on that plane, he is about to be guest of Uncle Sam. And to repeat, I have no reason to believe that this rumor is actually true.

mopinko

(70,112 posts)
59. was this what joe was talking about?
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 10:44 AM
Oct 2016

maybe a little part of it, that we were going to act against the hackers.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
63. Publicity whoring, plain and simple
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 11:08 AM
Oct 2016

I don't believe a single word of this bullshit imaginary story...

But Assange is in the headlines again, so mission accomplished

Cerridwen

(13,258 posts)
67. Can anyone else access their webpages?
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 12:31 PM
Oct 2016

Can anyone else access their webpages?

I can get to this page: ecuador.embassyhomepage.com

Any of the links I try to follow from that page give me an "unavailable" error, specifically "The web page which you had requested is not available at present. Please use the search tool below to find the answer you want."

I've tried to access consular, passport, and visa pages from the page in the above link.

Response to MowCowWhoHow III (Original post)

ColemanMaskell

(783 posts)
74. Yup. That's what happened. Ecuador shut him down.
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 08:22 PM
Oct 2016

Raw Story has it now.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/10/wikileaks-now-claims-ecuador-cut-off-julian-assanges-internet-access/

“We can confirm Ecuador cut off Assange’s internet access Saturday, 5pm GMT, shortly after publication of (Hillary) Clinton’s Goldman Sachs speechs (sic),” the statement from WikiLeaks said.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
75. Probably due to new allegations Assange regarding cybering an 8 year old.
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 08:53 PM
Oct 2016
https://cryptome.org/2016/10/UN-Assange-ToddandClare.com.htm

They have evidence he chatted with the 8 year old and tried to groom her.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
77. Yep, Ecuador fights against trafficking in their own country.
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 09:01 PM
Oct 2016

Last thing they need is Assange doing this crap and it blowing up.

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