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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 05:36 PM Nov 2016

Chatter grows that Ryan could step down

Source: The Hill

By Scott Wong - 11/03/16 05:17 PM EDT

Chatter is growing louder on Capitol Hill that Paul Ryan’s days as Speaker are numbered.

Four House Republicans, including a senior lawmaker close to leadership, told The Hill they expect Ryan to step down after Tuesday’s election, arguing that he faces a daunting path to the 218 votes he needs to win a full two-year term leading the House GOP.

Aides to the Wisconsin Republican insist he isn’t going anywhere and say he’s completely focused right now on protecting the GOP’s historic majority in the lower chamber. “The Speaker's only focus until Election Day is defeating Democrats and protecting our majority, and nothing else,” said Ryan spokeswoman AshLee Strong.

But even some Ryan allies are conceding that the Speaker now finds himself in an untenable position after just a year on the job. It’s not just the usual Freedom Caucus troublemakers who are pushing for change at the top; some more mainstream Republicans from safe GOP districts could pull their support over Ryan’s handling of GOP nominee Donald Trump, lawmakers said.

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Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/304245-chatter-grows-that-ryan-could-step-down

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Chatter grows that Ryan could step down (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2016 OP
More evidence of Republican Party problems nm AmericanActivist Nov 2016 #1
I think that is only going to happen if they lose the House. DFW Nov 2016 #2
Are They Thinking They Might Lose House? SoCalMusicLover Nov 2016 #5
They are probably thinking they won't lose the House DFW Nov 2016 #12
So all the deplorables in the house mdbl Nov 2016 #3
Deplorables, I just love that. Thank you Hillary. SammyWinstonJack Nov 2016 #24
Actually a "basket of deporables" mdbl Nov 2016 #28
Dumpster full of Deplorables even better. SammyWinstonJack Nov 2016 #30
Good. canuckledragger Nov 2016 #4
What Makes You Think Someone Sane Will Replace Him? SoCalMusicLover Nov 2016 #8
That is a good point, BUT Chemisse Nov 2016 #9
He can turn it into a win either way... Upin Nov 2016 #25
Probably not Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2016 #10
A potential replacement would be Chaffetz! COLGATE4 Nov 2016 #27
I expect that Jason Chaffetz will succeed him as Speaker. StevieM Nov 2016 #6
When current events (and his party) needed some backbone, Ryan proved to be spineless. FSogol Nov 2016 #7
why would be do that DonCoquixote Nov 2016 #11
Rock, meet hard place. tinrobot Nov 2016 #13
Glad to see this thread. leanforward Nov 2016 #14
More gameplay. It is an attention threat to GOP. He just wants to discourage opposition. Midnight Writer Nov 2016 #15
Musical chairs in the padded room dalton99 Nov 2016 #16
Ryan doesn't want to be the "cook" who goes down with the ship. TrollBuster9090 Nov 2016 #21
Re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. lindysalsagal Nov 2016 #23
I hope not. The alternatives are so much worse. moonscape Nov 2016 #17
RIGHT? Ryan is a low grade asshat Cosmocat Nov 2016 #18
Can't blame Ryan for quitting but there is plenty more crazy kwenu Nov 2016 #19
That's because Trump is going to blame Ryan for his election loss. TrollBuster9090 Nov 2016 #20
GOP is so rancid they can't even stand each other. lindysalsagal Nov 2016 #22
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2016 #26

DFW

(54,399 posts)
2. I think that is only going to happen if they lose the House.
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 05:43 PM
Nov 2016

He'll want to lead the opposition if he's still speaker. If the election result says he's no longer the Speaker as of January 2, I doubt he'll see much point in remaining until the bitter end.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
5. Are They Thinking They Might Lose House?
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 05:58 PM
Nov 2016

I think there is a greater chance of him staying if they hold Congress, even if Trump loses.

Wasn't he brought in, because there was nobody else who could get enough support? Won't that still hold true?

Besides, leading the House through stagnation for the next 2 years is going to be easy. He can just fight Hillary at every turn, and the repub base will love him for it.

DFW

(54,399 posts)
12. They are probably thinking they won't lose the House
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 07:41 PM
Nov 2016

Otherwise, he well might have thrown down his gavel long before now.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
3. So all the deplorables in the house
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 05:46 PM
Nov 2016

no longer like Ryan? Go figure. He's tried to be just like them except when it comes to Trump's really heinous comments.

canuckledragger

(1,641 posts)
4. Good.
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 05:50 PM
Nov 2016

It's not like he's done anything productive since he took the position...and it makes me nervous to have a greedy, self-centered pathological lying sociopath like him 3rd in line for the presidency.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
8. What Makes You Think Someone Sane Will Replace Him?
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 06:04 PM
Nov 2016

I always wonder how people here push and pray for someone the likes of Ryan to be replaced. By who? There is NEVER going to be someone from that side who the Democrats find palatable.

Seriously....people were practically falling over themselves cheering when Boehner left, and that lasted a few days before people here started complaining about Ryan as the replacement.

Point is, the speaker is going to be someone you find "greedy, self-centered, and a pathological lying sociopath." Whether it's Gingrich, Boehner, Ryan, or some other repub, and then you'll probably end up looking back and saying....."well, compared to so and so, Ryan was not so bad after all.

Chemisse

(30,813 posts)
9. That is a good point, BUT
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 06:18 PM
Nov 2016

Ryan is the party's golden boy and clearly headed for a presidential run. Anything that sullies his reputation is a good thing for us.

Upin

(115 posts)
25. He can turn it into a win either way...
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 08:43 AM
Nov 2016

Fought the good fight and 'everyone knows' that he tried to stop the pending Trump disaster etc.. etc..

I think it's worse for him if Trump wins. Republicans will almost certainly continue to control the House after Tuesday.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
6. I expect that Jason Chaffetz will succeed him as Speaker.
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 06:01 PM
Nov 2016

Republicans will reward him for violating the Hatch Act and deceiving the American people.

FSogol

(45,488 posts)
7. When current events (and his party) needed some backbone, Ryan proved to be spineless.
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 06:03 PM
Nov 2016

Ciao, Ryan. I'm sure there are some clean dishes somewhere your family can pretend to wash.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
11. why would be do that
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 07:03 PM
Nov 2016

when he would be the person Hillary talks to, it would be stupid. That being said, the GOP IS stupid.

tinrobot

(10,903 posts)
13. Rock, meet hard place.
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 08:46 PM
Nov 2016

The deplorables blame him for not doing enough to elect Trump.

The rest blame him for not doing enough to stop Trump.

leanforward

(1,076 posts)
14. Glad to see this thread.
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 10:39 PM
Nov 2016

I've been thinking for several weeks, that Ryan's time is short. They will need 218 votes, for the new speaker. Can they get it? It seems to me they might not get to that number. What happens if they can't get there.

Is there negotiation with Nancy? Sure, in the past Speaker election, there has been descent, but when the majority number is reduced what happens now?

To maintain the Speaker election majority, what will the GOP gentlemen and women have to give up to elect a new Speaker. The times are changing. I keep thinking Madame Nancy and her entourage may enter into the fray. Do you think?

Midnight Writer

(21,768 posts)
15. More gameplay. It is an attention threat to GOP. He just wants to discourage opposition.
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 11:59 PM
Nov 2016

"Be nice to me or I will not play anymore."

Cosmocat

(14,565 posts)
18. RIGHT? Ryan is a low grade asshat
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 07:52 AM
Nov 2016

As a republican wrong on everything, and a true believer in all things Ayn Rand.

But, sadly, in the year 2016, I find myself desperately hoping he can maintain his position because in this day and age he passes for what would be one of the ever shrinking number of republicans that aren't complete bat shit crazy.

kwenu

(2,470 posts)
19. Can't blame Ryan for quitting but there is plenty more crazy
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 05:17 PM
Nov 2016

in the GOP House that could pop up to replace him.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
20. That's because Trump is going to blame Ryan for his election loss.
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 10:48 PM
Nov 2016

Trump is setting Ryan and a bunch of other GOP establishment types up to be the fall guys when he loses the election. That was obvious as soon as Trumps followers started chanting "Paul Ryan Sucks" at his rally in Wisconsin. No way is Ryan going to hang around and be a punching bag for disgruntled Trump followers after the election.




The only question left is: Will Ryan sing ZIPPITY DO DA on the way out, the way Boehner did?

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