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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 10:17 AM Jan 2017

Puerto Rico Seeks to Be State by 2025

Source: The Daily Beast/ABC

Resident Commissioner of Puerto Rico Jenniffer Gonzalez, the representative to the U.S. Congress, filed a bill on Wednesday which could make the island the 51st state by 2025. The bill includes a referendum that would allow Puerto Ricans to determine if they want independence or want statehood. It is also intended to assist in an economic crisis on the island, as Puerto Rico would receive around $10 billion in additional federal funds per year if it became a state. "The territorial status has contributed to the economic crisis," Gonzalez said. "We don't get assigned the same resources."

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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
4. I was living in PR in 2012...
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 10:52 AM
Jan 2017

Residents cannot vote in the Presidential General Election but, they are allowed to vote in party primaries. Rick Santorum came down for a run, at the request of the PR Senate's President who had endorsed him. In a press conference, Santorum was asked if he would support statehood and responded, "yes, when you learn to speak English." The Senate President withdrew his endorsement of Santorum immediately following the press conference.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
7. Indeed. Why spend billions to keep out Hispanics then let 3.7 million in as eligible voters.
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 11:16 AM
Jan 2017

They are already American citizens but can't vote in federal elections. Trump's folks ain't going to want even more brown voters.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
3. Unless something has changed, about a third of PR wants to be a State.
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 10:50 AM
Jan 2017

And a third wants independence, and a third is satisfied with the status quo.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
8. Sorry, you're mistaken
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 11:29 AM
Jan 2017

Independence has never received more than 7% of the vote

Puerto Rican status referendum, 2012
Location Puerto Rico
Date November 6, 2012; 4 years ago
Voting system simple majority for the first question
first-past-the-post for the second question

Should Puerto Rico continue its current territorial status?
Yes 46.00%
No 54.00%

Which non-territorial option do you prefer?

Statehood 61.16%

Free Association 33.34%

Independence 5.49%

There were 515,348 blank and invalidated ballots counted alongside the 1,363,854 ballots which indicated a choice for one of the non-territorial alternatives. Under Puerto Rico Law, these ballots are not considered cast votes and are therefore not reflected in the final tally.[1]

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
12. I stand corrected.
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 12:43 PM
Jan 2017

"None of the above" was a big winner when I was there in '98. Blank and invalidated votes remain a strong choice, it seems. No strong consensus for change.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
16. I think they need to decide where their future lies.
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 07:49 PM
Jan 2017

Time for territories to end. Become a state, or an independent nation. Enough of this neither fish nor fowl thing.

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
13. More complicated than that. Almost no-one wants the status quo. What nearly half in the PDP party
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 12:49 PM
Jan 2017

want is free association on their terms. US laws don't apply, federal courts have no jurisdiction, PR conducts its own foreign affairs yet puertorricans remain US citizens, the US gov still provides funding to the island, and US provides for common defense and other things like mail service. This is the option the PDP insists be on any status referendum for the island in addition to independence and statehood. Sweet deal if you can get it.

What the PDP definitely do NOT want is a referendum where statehood and independence are the only options on the ballot. Statehood would win at least 80%. That being said, there is not a snowball's chance in San Juan that the US congress would approve statehood for the island.

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
15. PR's economy is in the toilet thanks to years of piss-poor management
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 05:57 PM
Jan 2017

Crime and unemployment are very high, and taxes have been going up a lot in recent years.

My wife's family lives there, and they're making plans to sell their land and move to either the Twin Cities, MN to be near us, or Chicago to be near other family.

I'm gonna miss the tropical fruit orchard my grandmother-in-law has in her backyard, and the fresh lobsters from the ocean.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
17. Uh, no
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 08:38 PM
Jan 2017

They can't join while they're going through bankruptcy. That would harm the United States. We don't need a new state begging for bailouts and issuing IOUs to its state officials.

Get their fiscal house in order, then we can start the process.

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