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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 03:40 PM Jan 2017

UPDATED: Trump Warns Toyota To Build In US, Not Mexico, Or 'Pay Big Border Tax'

Last edited Thu Jan 5, 2017, 07:15 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Talking Points Memo

By CAITLIN MACNEAL Published JANUARY 5, 2017, 2:24 PM EDT

Donald Trump on Thursday afternoon blasted Toyota Motor Corporation over the company's plans to build a new factory in Mexico, which were announced in April.

Trump has previously called out American companies for plans to move factory jobs abroad, but Toyota is based in Japan, not the United States.

Donald J. Trump ✔
@realDonaldTrump

Toyota Motor said will build a new plant in Baja, Mexico, to build Corolla cars for U.S. NO WAY! Build plant in U.S. or pay big border tax.

1:14 PM - 5 Jan 2017
10,027 Retweets 31,338 likes


Trump wrote that Toyota plans to build a new plant in Baja. However, the company plans to expand production at an existing Baja plant and announced the construction of a new car plant in Guanajuato in April.

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-toyota-cars-mexico



UPDATE:

Donald Trump just threatened Toyota — but it looks like he got the facts wrong

By Ylan Q. Mui January 5 at 4:37 PM

President-elect Donald Trump continued his Twitter tirade against the auto industry on Thursday, slamming Toyota for investing in Mexico but appearing to misstate key details of the company’s operations.

Trump warned the Japanese carmaker over Twitter that it could face hefty fines for building a plant in Baja, Mexico, to sell the popular Corolla sedan to American consumers. But Trump’s tweet looks to be incorrect: Toyota’s factory in Baja assembles Tacoma trucks, according to the automaker. A new plant in Guanajuato, Mexico, will manufacture Corollas.

That factory broke ground in November, and production is expected to begin in 2019. The work is being shifted to the plant from a facility in Canada. In a statement Thursday, Toyota said that there is no change in employment and production in the United States as a result of the new operations.

“Toyota has been part of the cultural fabric in the U.S. for nearly 60 years,” the company said. “Toyota looks forward to collaborating with the Trump administration to serve in the best interests of consumers and the automotive industry.”

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UPDATED: Trump Warns Toyota To Build In US, Not Mexico, Or 'Pay Big Border Tax' (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2017 OP
Ryan already said uh-uh to tariffs and Toyota has red state plants in BeyondGeography Jan 2017 #1
Just got to love the way this A--hole Wellstone ruled Jan 2017 #2
It'll be even scarier... Blanks Jan 2017 #34
Can't wait till these Idiots go their. Wellstone ruled Jan 2017 #36
Baja - Guanajuato.....same diff right? underpants Jan 2017 #3
Only difference is about 1400 miles.... Coventina Jan 2017 #11
When Trump says he will renegotiate NAFTA, I'm sure Mexico laughs at him. randome Jan 2017 #4
Mexico is pissed... 2naSalit Jan 2017 #8
Yup, Ford cancelling the new plant in Mexico TexasBushwhacker Jan 2017 #43
Same here. 2naSalit Jan 2017 #45
To be a fly on the wall in that room... Initech Jan 2017 #48
Just after 1 pm huh? wonder what happened to Toyota stock at that tome? GusBob Jan 2017 #5
Hey Donnie! Make your Trump line of clothing in the US first! muntrv Jan 2017 #6
I didn't know Toyota was an American company. Cattledog Jan 2017 #7
China has already condemned Trump for DonCoquixote Jan 2017 #9
DonCoquixote Diclotican Jan 2017 #23
Ummmmm, Toyota is a Japanese company. It doesn't "owe" the US factories. Coventina Jan 2017 #10
And the jobs being moved - are from Canada! hexola Jan 2017 #12
He's just a complete moron. And a racist. No jobs for Mexicans!!!! Coventina Jan 2017 #14
Plus their vehicles made in Japan are higher quality scscholar Jan 2017 #29
Of course, that doesn't matter to His Orangeness Coventina Jan 2017 #30
This. When you can afford to just buy a new car... scscholar Jan 2017 #35
oh please nt d_r Jan 2017 #53
My god PatSeg Jan 2017 #13
He'll probably keep doing it BumRushDaShow Jan 2017 #18
Oh, I agree PatSeg Jan 2017 #20
Seems when he is on meds BumRushDaShow Jan 2017 #22
"The crazy is strong in this one!" PatSeg Jan 2017 #31
I think Trump just fucked up jmowreader Jan 2017 #15
not LBN nt msongs Jan 2017 #16
Just remembered this, Wellstone ruled Jan 2017 #17
he is loosing it big time weissmam Jan 2017 #19
They need to either take his phone away TexasBushwhacker Jan 2017 #49
Hasn't anyone told PE pussy grabber leftynyc Jan 2017 #21
Unfit trumps Republican "betters" said NO to border taxes. Pence better update his president. Sunlei Jan 2017 #24
NAFTA prevents a tax on imports from Mexico KWR65 Jan 2017 #25
Maybe he can ban Americans from buying JAPANESE cars? HockeyMom Jan 2017 #26
So that would limit us to just GM, Ford, and Chrysler? Initech Jan 2017 #33
Chrysler is owned by Fiat, no? Crash2Parties Jan 2017 #37
But Fiat owns most of Chrysler's assets including its' manufacturing facilities in Michigan and Ohio Initech Jan 2017 #38
No - not Alfa Romeos! That means JJ Abrams will reboot "The Graduate". Crash2Parties Jan 2017 #39
Nah, that sounds more Michael Bay-ish. Initech Jan 2017 #40
Justin Lin - "The Graduate" meets "Fast & Furious" Crash2Parties Jan 2017 #42
are you d_r Jan 2017 #54
If trump messes with Toyota or Nafta, Texas will be the big loser dem in texas Jan 2017 #27
So, should Mexico look elsewhere to do business and create jobs asiliveandbreathe Jan 2017 #28
Mexico's Lzaro Crdenas and Nayarit deepwater ports okasha Jan 2017 #41
Trump to be proven wrong in 3... 2... 1.... Initech Jan 2017 #32
Trump get the facts wrong? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2017 #44
Oh yeah! Called it!!! Initech Jan 2017 #46
Pretty sad when a foreign auto manufacturer knows more about how our gov't operates... Wounded Bear Jan 2017 #47
Toyota is a Japanese company anyway and they have no obligation to have all their plants in the U.S. Vinca Jan 2017 #50
You beat me to the punch. no_hypocrisy Jan 2017 #51
So...Trump doesn't want a Japanese company to move from Canada to Mexico if they displacedtexan Jan 2017 #52

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
1. Ryan already said uh-uh to tariffs and Toyota has red state plants in
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 03:48 PM
Jan 2017

in MS, TX, WV, IN, KY and AL. Maybe if he were Don the King, Toyota would have something to worry about.

IOW, Trump's having a shite day and wants to change the subject.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
2. Just got to love the way this A--hole
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 03:49 PM
Jan 2017

is screwing the Stock Holders. Just caught a interview with Art Kasian,the go to Guru of Wall Street,and he was really concerned about Trumps Tweets. Conversation talked about insider trading and who might be involved. BTW,the new plant will be located new Mexico City and not Baja.

This whole thing is not going to end very well for our Country. Toyota is largely owned by the Japan Government. And Japan is the second largest owner of US debt.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
36. Can't wait till these Idiots go their.
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 07:37 PM
Jan 2017

Been around for 75 years,and every time the GOP even looked at the Third Rail,they kissed their asses goodbye. Bring it baby,you want people in the streets,go there.

Coventina

(27,121 posts)
11. Only difference is about 1400 miles....
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 04:10 PM
Jan 2017

About the distance between Seattle and Phoenix.

Naw, pretty much the same thing...

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
4. When Trump says he will renegotiate NAFTA, I'm sure Mexico laughs at him.
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 03:52 PM
Jan 2017

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

2naSalit

(86,647 posts)
8. Mexico is pissed...
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 03:58 PM
Jan 2017

many workers there are not happy about the cheeto's twitstorm.

I think he's ot thrilled that the immigration rates have dropped when it comes to the southern border, how do you get more Mexicans to cross the border? Destroy their income base.

FTFF!!!

TexasBushwhacker

(20,202 posts)
43. Yup, Ford cancelling the new plant in Mexico
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 08:32 AM
Jan 2017

will mean about 2000 fewer jobs than they were counting on there, at least that's what I heard on NPR.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
9. China has already condemned Trump for
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 04:00 PM
Jan 2017

government by tweet. Simply put American stocks are not going to grow if they have to fear that Donald will tweet and set off a political or economic disaster. it might do the CEOs good if they pool their money, make a hostile takeover of twitter, and cancel Don's privileges. Granted, where would probably get rewarded with a nice stock increase if it canceled Don's account itself, they may complain about free speech, but that's kind of hard to do when what you are fighting for is the right of corporations to cancel free speech if they feel like it. What's he going to do to a fireside chat on PBS every week?

As far as Toyota, it is even worse idea than it ever was to get Japan spooked. With China looking like it's going to take over the South China Sea, Japan knows that it is stuck its neck out for us, a neck that many in China would love to see chopped for both bowel reasons (like the sheer love of imperialism) and for some genuine reasons (like the fact that Japan really hasn't apologized for minor details like killing 22 million Chinese in World War II, 22 million, that is three Holocausts and 2 million to spare!)if Japan begins to feel like the US is going to leave it in the lurch, we can see an exact repeat of what is happening in Western Europe, namely a bunch of people scared, national pride bruised, and a bunch of fascist and ready to fill that void! Does Trump think that the Japanese do not have their equivalent of Breitbart, their version of Marine Le Pen, or Nigel Forange?

Let it sink in, Trump is not even in office yet, he is not even left Trump Tower yet, and already he has done something to encourage fascist on the Atlantic and Pacific fronts! Please do remember,, the last idiot who thought he can go ahead surround himself with enemies and somehow when was a fellow by the name of Hitler! Go ahead and chant about how I am breaking Godwin's law, because sometimes a fascist is a fascist. I really do not want to see what sort of wall the people Trump is encouraging would build, and I'm not talking about a wall between us and Mexico, I am talking about the modern version of the Berlin wall, which many across the world with love to see.

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
23. DonCoquixote
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 05:36 PM
Jan 2017

DonCoquixote

I saw Trump as a fascist 18 mounts ago - when he started his bid for the primaries.. He played straight out of the same script book Hitler used 90 years ago - and acted in a way true the primaries, and general election who was a scary reminder of what Hitler did in Germany - Of course it was differences between what Hitler did, and what Trump did - but the similarities is there - a Demagogue who is talking, and millions believe his words - and the fact Trump have the support of the US Nazi Party, the KKK and other groups, on the right who have had some of a Renaissance the last couple of years specially as an result of the election of Trump as the next US President.. should make everyone pause.. And it is clearly that many on the far right feel embolden enough, to make their identity known, as they marsh true streets again, treating everyone who is not in agreement with them. It is the way SA and later SS started - as groups who marched and treated ordinary germans to be quiet - and then ruled by fear....

Diclotican

Coventina

(27,121 posts)
10. Ummmmm, Toyota is a Japanese company. It doesn't "owe" the US factories.
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 04:04 PM
Jan 2017

I mean, if they want to build here, great!

But exactly what obligation could they conceivably have to build here and not Mexico?

The man is an idiot!!!

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
12. And the jobs being moved - are from Canada!
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 04:12 PM
Jan 2017

And Canada isn't really losing jobs - they are going to build fancier cars in the Ontario plant...

I don't get it!

 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
29. Plus their vehicles made in Japan are higher quality
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 06:21 PM
Jan 2017

This move just hurts the American people with less reliable cars.

 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
35. This. When you can afford to just buy a new car...
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 07:03 PM
Jan 2017

rather than deal with years worth of hassle with repairs, then reliability doesn't matter. For normal people, a $1k repair will wipe-out their savings.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
13. My god
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 04:12 PM
Jan 2017

The man is starting to believe his own hype. "Hey, I just tweet something and people do whatever I want! Its tremendous." He is pissing off too many really powerful people and he isn't even president yet. Someone needs to tell him he is not God and there are consequences to his indiscriminate tweeting.

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
18. He'll probably keep doing it
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 04:19 PM
Jan 2017

until someone (his kids) takes his phone away. It's almost like his binkie. I say let him keep making an ass out of himself. He is what he is and as much as people kept warning others about him, far too many refused to see because they kept covering for him.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
20. Oh, I agree
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 04:35 PM
Jan 2017

Let the man keep on tweeting into that huge hole he's created. Eventually they may have to put him on medication. Hope he buries himself before that happens.

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
22. Seems when he is on meds
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 04:57 PM
Jan 2017

it may last 30 minutes and maybe up to about an hour at most before he goes off the rails again.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
15. I think Trump just fucked up
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 04:15 PM
Jan 2017

I don't think Trump wants to go to the World Trade Organization and explain to them why he's trying to order non-US companies around.

Also, I found this on Autoblog (http://www.autoblog.com/2015/04/16/toyota-guanajuato-mexico-plant-official/):

- Realignment of North American manufacturing operations
To more efficiently supply high-quality and attractive vehicles, Toyota will continue regional consolidation of North American production based on vehicle body type and size. In 2019, production of the Corolla will be shifted from the plant in Cambridge Ontario, Canada (TMMC) to the newly opened plant in Mexico, and the plant in Blue Springs, Mississippi (TMMMS) will continue to produce the Corolla; consolidating compact vehicle production to the Southern United States and Mexico.

TMMC will then focus its production on mid-sized vehicles of higher value, along with Toyota Motor Manufacturing, Kentucky, Inc. (TMMK) and Toyota Motor Manufacturing, Indiana, Inc. (TMMI).


Which is also what Ford was thinking when they decided to move Focus production to Mexico: it takes the same number of people and the same size factory to make a $15,000 car as it does to make a $25,000 one...so if we're going to hire American workers and pay them American wages, let's have them make expensive cars.
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
17. Just remembered this,
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 04:17 PM
Jan 2017

Carl Icahn owns Navistar International Truck company. Okay,they build the bulk of their trucks in Mexico. Do you thing Trump the Con Job will attack his number one fan,not going to happen. So much bullshit coming from this twit. Somebody is trading on this suckers tweets.

KWR65

(1,098 posts)
25. NAFTA prevents a tax on imports from Mexico
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 05:55 PM
Jan 2017

Trump is just blowing smoke. Toyota should just ignore him.

Initech

(100,080 posts)
38. But Fiat owns most of Chrysler's assets including its' manufacturing facilities in Michigan and Ohio
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 09:42 PM
Jan 2017

And a lot of Fiat 500s and the new Alfa Romeos are going to be built in those facilities. Let's see what Trumpenfuror thinks about that!

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
39. No - not Alfa Romeos! That means JJ Abrams will reboot "The Graduate".
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 11:10 PM
Jan 2017

...complete with car crashes, explosions and sex at 85mph.

Initech

(100,080 posts)
40. Nah, that sounds more Michael Bay-ish.
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 11:14 PM
Jan 2017

JJ Abrams would remake the Graduate with lots of lens flares and excessive cell phone usage.

dem in texas

(2,674 posts)
27. If trump messes with Toyota or Nafta, Texas will be the big loser
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 06:11 PM
Jan 2017

Toyota is moving its US headquarters to the Dallas area next year, they are building the campus right now. The president of Toyota US was on the Dallas PBs station and explained that it is cheaper to make one model in one factory, then ship all over the world. Toyota has several factories here in the US and the models made here are shipped all over the world. GM has a plant in Arlington making SUVs that is running 24-7 right now. GM is building a 3 billion dollar plant to stamp car bodies next to their Arlington plant. These are bodies will probably be shipped to many other countries. Don't need to start trade wars now.

As far as NAFTA goes, Texas has benefited from NAFTA big time. Texas leads the states in exports with over 20% of the Texas exports going to Mexico. Texas exports far more than Just oil and cattle, it is electronics, cars, software and many other items. The state economy is booming, even with the drop in oil prices, the unemployment rate is below the US average. Many big companies are relocating to Texas and having trouble hiring enough workers. Why anyone who lives in Texas voted for Trump is beyond me.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
28. So, should Mexico look elsewhere to do business and create jobs
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 06:17 PM
Jan 2017

for its people?? - Just who do you suppose they might turn?/ - The world seems to be spinning faster away from the US...chumps are we (media) for giving this crass, unintelligent, POS any air time...on the other hand, the big R's could start impeachment at the drop of ANY pushback to their agenda..from anyone...Pence IS their guy..

....hateful people - just wondering who the hell are their constituents..are they really this hateful? - Are there more hateful people than we suspect? -

Me thinks ALL their pants were made too long -


okasha

(11,573 posts)
41. Mexico's Lzaro Crdenas and Nayarit deepwater ports
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 12:12 AM
Jan 2017

were built specifically for trade with the Pacific Rim, especially China and Japan. They began looking past the US for trading partners long ago.

Vinca

(50,278 posts)
50. Toyota is a Japanese company anyway and they have no obligation to have all their plants in the U.S.
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 03:04 PM
Jan 2017

By the way, any idea where in the U.S. the Trump neckties will be made????

no_hypocrisy

(46,122 posts)
51. You beat me to the punch.
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 03:08 PM
Jan 2017
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota

More threats like that and Toyota will be happy to move every single plant out of the US and relocate in any other country.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
52. So...Trump doesn't want a Japanese company to move from Canada to Mexico if they
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 04:12 PM
Jan 2017

Want to sell goods to us here in the USA?

And to think I thought Goerge W. was a dumbass.

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