Trump Says Only Fools See Good Relationship With Russia as Bad

[TomCADem]

Source: Bloomberg

Facing calls to strike back at Russia for President Vladimir Putin’s decision to hack the 2016 U.S. election campaign, president-elect Donald Trump instead suggested warmer relations between the two countries.

“Having a good relationship with Russia is a good thing, not a bad thing,” Trump said Saturday in a series of three Twitter posts. “Only ‘stupid’ people, or fools, would think it is bad! We have enough problems around the world without yet another one.”

“When I am President, Russia will respect us far more than they do now,” Trump assured his 18.9 million Twitter followers. The comments came a day after being presented with evidence by top U.S. intelligence officials that Putin personally ordered cyber and disinformation attacks during the campaign.

Trump also blamed the Democratic National Committee for allowing hacking to occur during the U.S. presidential campaign and restated there was “no evidence” cyberintrusions that U.S. intelligence officials pinned on had affected the election results.

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-01-06/u-s-says-putin-ordered-russian-hacking-during-the-2016-election

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So, instead of imposing penalties on Russia for its interference, Trump is going to reward Russia. Talk about creating an incentive for future Russian interventions.

[olddad56]

1. Yeah, because interfering with our election is a good sign.

[mnhtnbb]

2. Only fools voted for Trump.

[randr]

3. And only traitors see the good in Putin

[bucolic_frolic]

4. Congress should do something

He still doesn't seem to understand probably because it's all about
him and his business interests. He doesn't understand sovereignty,
geopolitics, international relations. He's just money and contracts
and deals

[TomCADem]

6. If Trump Truly Was Not Seeking Russian Help...

...then he would come out strongly against Russian interference. He would say, "I did not ask for Russia's help (He Did). I did not want Russia's Help. (He did). And I condemn any foreign interference in our political process. Therefore, I propose the following sanctions..."

Instead, Trump is minimizing the affect of Russian interference, and proposing to "cooperate" with Russia, which includes appointing a Russian friendly SoS who will immediately seek to facilitate Russian oil exploration deals.

[RiverStone]

7. tRump overtly supports an enemy of the state

How much more bad will the liar-in-chief have to do before repubs in Congress pull their collective heads out of their ass and impeach him?

[bdamomma]

44. and its all about

tRump

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-wagner/trump-and-narcissistic-pe_b_11289332.html

[wordpix]

59. this repug CONgress? They will only do what their billionaires tell them to do

maybe McCain and Graham will come thru but I won't hold my breath for this crowd of CONgressmen

[CentralMass]

5. Thus the term "Useful Idiot"

[PearliePoo2]

8. Really Dumb-shit? Senators McCain and Graham tend to disagree!

In fact, Graham said just last Thursday that the U.S. should be throwing ROCKS, not pebbles, at your BFF Pootie!
I'm hoping that they come after your traitorous, orange, fucking ass with everything they've got and more.

[onenote]

13. do you think the US should adopt a formal declaration of war against Russia?

If not, why not?

[spin]

20. It seems a lot of congress critters and talking heads almost want us to declare ...

war against Russia. Then we hear they are worried about Trump having access to the nuclear launch codes.

[denbot]

40. Ratchet down on economic sanctions.

There are many steps we can take short of lobbing ICBM's.

[IronLionZion]

9. How can Trumpers reconcile their opposition to communism?

As Trump and his cronies want to turn us into a Russian-style oligarchy?

Reagan must be rolling over in his grave

[Nay]

10. How? IOKIYAR.

It's OK if you are Republican.

[Cosmocat]

19. This situation highlights that there literally is no amount of bullshit

that the republican sheeple will not GLEEFULLY gobble up, and angrily insist that the rest of the country smiles and takes it with then.

[True_Blue]

23. What ever happened to those Russian hating Republicans?

Ironically, it was in the 80s when the Republican party went off the deep end. In 1989, "Mr Republican" Barry Goldwater said that the Republican party had been taken over by a "bunch of kooks."

[Botany]

11. Please A.G. Lorreta Lynch send some Federal Marshalls to NYC and bring Trump in ...

.... for questioning. He needs to stand trial for treason. Mitch McConnnell needs
to be put under oath and asked what he knew about the election rigging.

[bdamomma]

45. oh McConnell

he is in over his head too, I would love to see his smirky arrogant face in jail

[paleotn]

12. Treasonous bastard!

The info directly connecting Tweetinfurhrer and his campaign to Russian hacks is sitting on NSA servers in Utah or some other classified site, if it hasn't already been gathered and analyzed. My prediction is as soon as the Republicans can distance themselves from him sufficiently, he will be impeached and probably charged with treason. They were never terribly happy with this ass hat anyway and he has many, many enemies within his own party. Scores will be settled.

[onenote]

14. I'll bet my very nice house that Trump is never charged with Treason

Since under over 200 years of US law what he has done, while likely subject to criminal sanctions, isn't "treason" as that term is narrowly defined in US law.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2674244

[paleotn]

26. Depends on what he's done.

We've certainly got high crimes and misdemeanors, along a number of Republicans who'd love to see him hang. But, from the intelligence briefings he's had or his people have had, could he have passed classified info to his Russian handlers? Who knows. Leaking it to his mistress, as Patraeus did, is one thing. Giving it to a foreign power is quite another. I still think scores will be settled by him being impeached, one way or another. Once his followers start to fall away, Republicans will have sufficient cover to take him out.

[onenote]

33. If he passed classified info, he could and would be charged with espionage

But the list of folks who have passed classified info to the Russians or made such information public so it could be accessed by those with whom we are engaged in a military conflict is quite long. The Rosenbergs. Aldrich Ames. Robert Hanssen. Edward Snowden. And so on. Not one of them was charged with treason.

And I wish I shared your optimism that his support is going to melt away. It's not as if folks who supported him didn't have a pretty good idea of how unfit to be president he is. They just didn't care. And unless and until he tanks the economy to a degree that probably is unimaginable, given the solid ground Obama has created, those folks aren't going to bail out on him in the numbers that would be needed to push for impeachment.

[colorado_ufo]

37. The Rosenbergs were tried and convicted of conspiracy to commit espionage

and executed.

You do not need to be convicted of treason to get the death penalty.

[treestar]

52. Tweetenfurhrer! I love it!

[wordpix]

60. Commander-in-tweet has so many names

Orange Cheeto deserves them all

[CousinIT]

15. "no evidence". Manipulating public opinion via multi-faceted propaganda is very deniable

And that's why Russia does it.

Did they "hack into voting machines and change votes?"

No. They changed people's minds. Via a multi-pronged propaganda campaign. So..."no evidence"

And as SHitler promised his MAN-DATE Putin, there will be handsome reward for it.

Why would we expect anything different?

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

16. So Drumpf's still felating Putin

[paleotn]

31. Oh, that's brutal!

[colorado_ufo]

38. Nice integration of the MAGA Trumphat and the Russian bear costume!

Ah, symbolism!

[bdamomma]

46. hmm.....

maybe that's one of the things pootie has on trump but with maybe some Russian ladies.....and it was videotaped.

[pbmus]

17. The reason why...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512675232

[no_hypocrisy]

18. Reminds me of The Emperor Without Clothes.

The tailors told the King that they were making him the most splendid clothes with the finest fabrics, intricate stitching, light as a butterfly's wings and only fools would be unable to see the clothes when he wore them.

And a little boy did not know that the clothes could only be seen by those who weren't foolish. He watched the King march through the Towne's streets and exclaimed "Why, the King isn't wearing any clothes at all!"

[alfredo]

21. What did trump know, and when did he know it?

[yurbud]

22. So...what's the goal of antagonism toward Russia?

[TomCADem]

24. Ask the 30 Million Americans Who Will Lose Coverage

...due to Trump.

Worse, rewarding Russia for their interference will encourage more severe and blatant efforts to interfere with US political system by foreign countries.

[yurbud]

25. our government's hostility toward Russia predated Trump's candidacy

[TomCADem]

27. So Russia's Interference Was Justified?

If Russia had not interfered and you were making argument for better relations, then you would have a point. But kind of hard to argue for moving on now that we are stuck with Trump.

[paleotn]

32. Invasion of Ukraine?

Crimea? Threatening NATO members in Eastern Europe? Wholesale butchery in Chechnya and Syria. Ivan changed his flag, but that's about it. Russia has a long, long history as a bad actor.

[bdamomma]

43. Yes, Putin has just begun

holding tRump by the balls (yuk) so to speak to do his bidding and to awaken the sleeping bear again. tRump is giving his allegiance to an ex KGB'er over his own country tRump doesn't give a shit about America. He is a filthy man. tRump is such an idiot..... etc.

[yurbud]

54. Didn't they already have bases in Crimea and hold a referendum there?

[yurbud]

55. Hasn't NATO expanded through Eastern Europe since the end of the Cold War not Russia?

[yurbud]

56. Wasn't Russia responding to "Islamic extremists" in Chechnya that we claim to be fighting?

[yurbud]

57. Wasn't Russia invited into Syria by the gov't to fight ISIS & doing what we're doing in Mosul?

[LanternWaste]

63. Your premise is flawed. Antagonism is a reaction, not a means to a goal.

Antagonism is a reaction, not a means to a goal. Your premise is flawed.

[Thinkingabout]

28. Trump is a weak puppet controlled by Putin

[truthisfreedom]

29. Because siding with Russia and insulting Americans is the Soviet Republican way.

[Paladin]

30. Imagine if Hillary had won, and then voiced the same opinions about Russia.

The right-wingers would set this country on fire, from one coast to the other.

[kskiska]

36. They've been calling Obama a Marxist and Communist from Day 1

Now Putin is a great guy.

[atreides1]

34. An apt description of Trump and the Republican Party

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”
― Marcus Tullius Cicero

[bdamomma]

42. isn't that the truth

[Cha]

35. Said the biggest damn ass Fool on the Planet.

[riversedge]

39. The Fool trump has been unleased on the world. May the goddesses help us all.

[bdamomma]

41. Geez he is a sick fuck

he pledges his allegiance to RUSSIA

who does this???? who talks against the US President, who assaults women and the list goes on and one...............why hasn't he shown his tax returns...he doesn't have any fucking money for one.

[Hekate]

47. My gods, I hate that sunuvabitch

[smirkymonkey]

50. I'll second that.

[jmowreader]

48. We won't have a "good relationship" with Russia under Trump

We will have a one-sided, abusive relationship with them, with Russia as the malefactor. Only ochen' glupyj oranzhevyj malchikov believe that's a good relationship.

[riversedge]

49. Trump is name-calling LOTS of folks foolish. Keep it up you big bigot Trump!

[treestar]

51. LOL, respect?

They will respect us more than they do now? It won't be "respect" we'll be getting.

[AgadorSparticus]

53. DNC ALLOWED hacking to occur?!??!!! WTF?!?!!! That's just... desperate talk.

They can't spin any better than this??!!?!!!

He needs to be contained. He is a clear and present danger to this country.

[cstanleytech]

58. I'm wondering if Putin might have something that he is blackmailing Trump with

as it would explain why Putin went to such lengths to help Trump get elected.
Best guess what kind of blackmail though? I'm thinking probably video of Trump having sex with underage prostitutes in Russia probably all arranged by Putin.

[wordpix]

61. apparently, Pooty did not like the Hillary-Pres. O sanctions that hurt Russia

Not that Pooty should care. He's worth a reported $200 Billion or so

[cstanleytech]

62. Not hard to amiss a $200 billion fortune especially if your willing to order the murder of

any critics like Alexander Litvinenko.