'Against our dignity': Mexico vows never to pay for Trump's wall
Source: The Guardian
Mexicos president, Enrique Peña Nieto, has rejected any suggestions of his country paying for a border wall and pledged to sign an updated free-trade agreement with the European Union as he seeks to diversify the economy away from the United States.
Speaking in uncharacteristically stern and straightforward language, Peña Nieto told an audience of Mexican diplomats: All matters that define our bilateral relationship are on the table including security, immigration and commerce.
But he said any negotiations must include touchy topics for Americans, including putting an end to the flow of illegal guns across the border and arming deadly drug cartels.
It is evident that we have differences with the new United States government on some issues, such as a wall that Mexico absolutely will not pay for, Peña Nieto said. At no time will we accept anything that goes against our dignity as a country and our dignity as Mexicans.
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Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/12/against-our-dignity-mexico-vows-never-to-pay-for-trumps-wall
The article also refers to an Ipsos poll that found that 57% of Mexicans would rather abandon Nafta than give in to Trump's demands.
Here's a link to the poll (findings in Spanish):
http://ipsosmexicoblog.mx/57-donald-trump-y-el-tlcan
NNadir
(33,527 posts)...country.
Since Trump is a traitor who will leave American security in a shambles, he may have to beg for Russian assistance to prevent the Mexican army from retaking the territory they lost in 1848.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)and that's the history of Texas.
All the Americans had to do was:
1: Become Mexican citizens
2: Learn Spanish
3: Become Catholic
And the Mexican government welcomed them. They refused to do all three, so the Mexicans sealed the border. Them Americans began illegally immigrating into Mexico, so Mexico began enforcing its immigration laws.
And there you go. Americans did this to Mexico twice. . .once in 1836. Again in the Great American Landgrab of 1846.
HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)Try that today, see how far you get.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)Stephen Austin's father told them to go to Hell.
NNadir
(33,527 posts)They also had to agree to define their "freedom" as consisting of the right to "own" other human beings who they were totally free to treat like farm animals, or worse than farm animals.
Texas participated in two revolutions within 30 years in order to protect that last "minor" freedom.
Actually, considering the Republicans that Texas now votes for regularly, I kind of am salivating over the possibility that the United States, being lead by a traitor, might become so weak that Mexico can kick whatever cheap cardboard wall the naked emperor puts up, and reconquer the place.
It would be kind of fun to watch Texans be told, "You're in Mexico, asshole, speak Spanish!"
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)And most of the Americans there were from slave states!
canetoad
(17,169 posts)From the potboiler "The Day After Tomorrow". At the time I laughed till the tears ran down my legs.
Canoe52
(2,948 posts)everyone in the place was laughing their asses off.
MistakenLamb
(526 posts)at the forgiving of Latin American dept
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Please don't think we are all sympathetic with trumpsters. Most of us cried as we watched our country go down in a coup, and we are embarrassed by and ashamed of him.
Cha
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Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)Then I'd pull my diplomats.
randr
(12,412 posts)This will end up occupying most of Trumps time and could be a good thing.
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)If Trump slithers backstage to watch Mexico getting dressed, Mexico will fuck him UP.
Mexico is not a p*ssy willing to be grabbed by Trump.
He doesn't get that. He will.
You see these incredible looking women I sort of get away with things like that.
https://thinkprogress.org/trump-beauty-pageants-naked-2dc4b6c6d507#.msea4cmsd
On an appearance on The Howard Stern Show in 2005, published on Sunday by CNN, Trump described going backstage at the beauty pageants while the contestants were undressed. Before a show, Ill go backstage and everyones getting dressed, and everything else, and you know, no men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, he said. You know, Im inspecting because I want to make sure that everything is good.
You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody okay? he continued. And you see these incredible looking women, and so, I sort of get away with things like that.