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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 12:45 PM Jan 2017

Ben Carson: No 'extra rights' for LGBT people if he becomes HUD Secretary

Source: LGBTQ Nation


By Alex Bollinger · Friday, January 13, 2017

Ben Carson was asked about his position on LGBT housing discrimination and said he opposed “extra rights” for LGBT people.

In confirmation hearings for the Housing and Urban Development Secretary-nominee on Thursday, Senator Sherrod Brown pressed Carson on whether he believed the HUD had “a duty” to take actions to reduce anti-LGBT discrimination.

“Of course, I would enforce all the laws of the land,” Carson responded. “And I believe that all Americans regardless of any of the things that you mentioned should be protected by the law. What I have mentioned in the past is the fact that no one gets extra rights. Extra rights means you get to redefine everything for everybody else. That doesn’t seem very fair to me.” Later, in response to a question from Senator Cortez Masto, Carson said he would “absolutely” protect the LGBTQ communinity from discrimination.

It is unclear what exactly Carson meant in his answer. There is no statutory law that prohibits housing discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, and discrimination on the basis of gender identity is only actionable under the Fair Housing Act’s ban on sex-based discrimination. Discrimination is only prohibited by the HUD’s Equal Access Rule that bans discrimination in FHA-backed loans.

Read more: http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2017/01/trump-nominee-ben-carson-no-extra-rights-lgbt-people/

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Ben Carson: No 'extra rights' for LGBT people if he becomes HUD Secretary (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2017 OP
He is such a moron... Freedomofspeech Jan 2017 #1
Oh! You are being much nicer than I will be. DK504 Jan 2017 #3
Yet his lack of government... 3catwoman3 Jan 2017 #13
Ben Carson has lost his memory. Archae Jan 2017 #2
No, his vocabulary consists of right-wing slogans. Eugene Jan 2017 #20
You get to redefine everything for everybody. HassleCat Jan 2017 #4
Carson needs a brain transplant Zambero Jan 2017 #5
Ben Carson: Transgender People Are The Height Of Absurdity oberliner Jan 2017 #6
"It is unclear what exactly Carson meant" kind of says it all Freethinker65 Jan 2017 #7
Equal rights are NOT extra rights, moron! muntrv Jan 2017 #8
"Extra". "Special" "Redefined" rights. My ass. lambchopp59 Jan 2017 #9
Carson is as ignorant of the law J_William_Ryan Jan 2017 #10
They aren't asking for anything extra you fucking twit they just want to be treated equally. nt cstanleytech Jan 2017 #11
When a social or ethnic group is specifically not covered arithia Jan 2017 #12
"Extra rights" like equality. nt TeamPooka Jan 2017 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2017 #15
I know I'm old enough to clearly remember Jim Crow. . . BigDemVoter Jan 2017 #16
what "extra rights" do lgbt people get ? JI7 Jan 2017 #17
Fucktard Carson. area51 Jan 2017 #18
Um... We don't want "extra rights." We want equal rights! Oneironaut Jan 2017 #19
I see some confusion about what Carson probably meant. astral Jan 2017 #21

DK504

(3,847 posts)
3. Oh! You are being much nicer than I will be.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 12:56 PM
Jan 2017

Carson has had NO government experience and probably didn't have a damn thing to watch his own financial. As a great surgeon he created mass wealth for himself and family, he lives in great houses, but he has never lived in poverty to the point where he will be thrown out on the streets for him making it impossible to pay their rent.

Wicked, bad immoral, sinfiul, vile and of course malicious. He's another completely unqualified for, he like all the others shoud be banned from all government positions.

3catwoman3

(24,006 posts)
13. Yet his lack of government...
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:28 PM
Jan 2017

..experience didn't deter him for running for president.

Has anyone asked him about that cognitive disconnect?

Archae

(46,335 posts)
2. Ben Carson has lost his memory.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 12:49 PM
Jan 2017

"Extra rights" and "special rights" were the same terms used by racists to oppose fair housing for blacks and other non-whites.

Eugene

(61,900 posts)
20. No, his vocabulary consists of right-wing slogans.
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 02:30 PM
Jan 2017

Carson has called legislative efforts for equality a "socialist experiment."
He beat the "special rights" drum repeatedly during his own and Trump's
Presidential campaigns.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
4. You get to redefine everything for everybody.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 12:57 PM
Jan 2017

OK, Mom, that vehicle you use to take the kids to soccer games is no longer a "minivan," but is now called a "feldspar."

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
5. Carson needs a brain transplant
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 01:01 PM
Jan 2017

He shouldn't self-administer the procedure however. Hiring a robot works best.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
6. Ben Carson: Transgender People Are The Height Of Absurdity
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 01:03 PM
Jan 2017
You know, we look at this whole transgender thing. I got to tell you: For thousands of years, mankind has known what a man is and what a woman is. And now, all of a sudden we don’t know anymore. Now, is that the height of absurdity? Because today you feel like a woman, even though everything about you genetically says that you’re a man or vice versa?

Wouldn’t that be the same as if you woke up tomorrow morning after seeing a movie about Afghanistan or reading some books and said, “You know what? I’m Afghanistan [sic]. I know I don’t look that way. My ancestors came from Sweden, or something, I don’t know. But I really am. And if you say I’m not, you’re a racist.” This is how absurd we have become!

https://thinkprogress.org/ben-carson-transgender-people-are-the-height-of-absurdity-62a6054e0534#.fbyj4o6im


Just in case people forgot what Ben Carson was all about.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
9. "Extra". "Special" "Redefined" rights. My ass.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 01:13 PM
Jan 2017

Just regurgitated newspeak to block what we've been fighting for all along. EQUAL rights granted by default to the "straights".

J_William_Ryan

(1,753 posts)
10. Carson is as ignorant of the law
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 01:18 PM
Jan 2017

as he is hateful and wrong.

There is no such thing as "extra rights," all citizens have the same rights, seeking to defend those rights is not to ask for "more."

arithia

(455 posts)
12. When a social or ethnic group is specifically not covered
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:13 PM
Jan 2017

under existing protection laws, it is already in essence the subject of their own special laws through omission.

"All men are created equal... except those guys" defines the former group as having extra rights under the law.

It's really not all that difficult, but who would expect a neurosurgeon to understand basic logic. Or a citizen to know American history.

Frakin hateful morons.

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

BigDemVoter

(4,150 posts)
16. I know I'm old enough to clearly remember Jim Crow. . .
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 05:52 PM
Jan 2017

And Dr. Carson is older than I am, so he MUST remember it too.

I'd love to invite Dr. Carson to chat with us about what were one described as "special rights" for African Americans. . . .

He IS one of the stupidest EVER to be nominated for a cabinet post. . . .

Oneironaut

(5,504 posts)
19. Um... We don't want "extra rights." We want equal rights!
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 01:13 PM
Jan 2017

We don't want to be fired, evicted, or worse just because of our orientation or gender. Is that too much to ask?

When did freedom from the above things become "extra?" We just want to live in peace without Jesus freaks demanding our death and destruction every five seconds.

 

astral

(2,531 posts)
21. I see some confusion about what Carson probably meant.
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 05:04 PM
Jan 2017

Suppose I have a room to rent to a single or a couple, I get numerous inquiries and I pick one, somebody(s)' who were not picked were gay. Did I choose to discriminate? Was there any reason I needed to know which 'applicants' were gay, in advance of picking someone? Sometimes it is obvious, sometimes it is not, sometimes it is mistaken. I have been asked numerous times if I was gay; I am not and could care less if people think I am. (However, I do find it a weird question for casual conversation.)

Equal rights have sometimes been morphed into Special Rights on many occasions, whether intention was proven or not.

For the record I would happily rent to a gay couple whether male or female, but might in general be more comfortable renting to females, is that also discrimination?

And I do fear perverted men entering the women's room for nefarious purposes, completely a separate issue from sexual orientation. I fear mostly for the little girls.

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