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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:01 PM Jan 2017

"My confidence has been shook": Dems furious after meeting with James Comey - but they can't say why

Source: RawStory


TRAVIS GETTYS
13 JAN 2017 AT 12:33 ET

House Democrats walked out of a classified briefing sputtering with anger over FBI Director James Comey’s response to claims of Russian election hacking.

Several of the lawmakers who took part in Friday’s meeting said they’d lost confidence in Comey and had become convinced he’s unfit to lead the agency, reported The Hill.

“I was non-judgmental until the last 15 minutes,” said Rep. Tim Walz (D-MN). “I no longer have that confidence in him. Some of the things that were revealed in this classified briefing — my confidence has been shook.”

Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD) said he was “extremely concerned” about what had been revealed, which was confidential.

Rep. Mark Takano (D-CA) was so shaken by what he’d learned that he could barely complete a sentence. “I’ll just — I’m very angry,” Takano said.

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/my-confidence-has-been-shook-dems-furious-after-meeting-with-james-comey-but-they-cant-say-why/

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"My confidence has been shook": Dems furious after meeting with James Comey - but they can't say why (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2017 OP
Thank You for posting KittyWampus Jan 2017 #1
They probably found out drray23 Jan 2017 #2
And that the Trump campaign was in colllusion with Russian meddling. Amaryllis Jan 2017 #92
My thoughts exactly... WTF!! Where was this briefing MONTHS AGO?!?! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2017 #107
What The Hell Is Going On?......nt global1 Jan 2017 #3
Exactly Auggie Jan 2017 #6
I have a feeling.... Adrahil Jan 2017 #70
I fear you're correct n/t susanr516 Jan 2017 #80
why would that fact be classified? nt tomp Jan 2017 #129
No, you were right the first time PatSeg Jan 2017 #148
Wow. SunSeeker Jan 2017 #4
So, Comey is an active participant in the coup, eh? Raster Jan 2017 #5
You can keep saying that, but DeminPennswoods Jan 2017 #14
Because you know all that's going on behind the scenes SticksnStones Jan 2017 #28
not inept. MFM008 Jan 2017 #30
you can't spell demigoddess Jan 2017 #97
It's not bashing; don't use that as a crutch! Chasstev365 Jan 2017 #104
If our goal is to be more like the GOP then we truly have lost our way. SticksnStones Jan 2017 #106
President Obama has been great on so many things, but Chasstev365 Jan 2017 #110
A: "in the spirit of cooperation" "working together" "conciliatory" Crash2Parties Jan 2017 #124
+1 Tarheel_Dem Jan 2017 #116
Hard to argue with that. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2017 #29
You're blaming Obama? I blame America. They let him down, what's he supposed to do? TeamPooka Jan 2017 #35
According to some hes supposed to institute martial law and deny Trump from being cstanleytech Jan 2017 #48
So he's supposed to defy Congress and the Electoral College and The Constitution? Sure. TeamPooka Jan 2017 #53
Ya I know, it would be doing what they fear the GOP is planning by getting into bed with Russia. cstanleytech Jan 2017 #63
This is coming from the same assholes who hoped Comney would have Hillary arrested... bettyellen Jan 2017 #101
I would rather have Obama go down as the last real President and have America destroyed by Trump and TeamPooka Jan 2017 #105
Some here have been advocating all sorts of crazy destabilizing hijinks..... bettyellen Jan 2017 #108
Yay, once again.. THANKS BERNIE!!11!ELEVENTY1! dionysus Jan 2017 #142
What an asinine suggestion. Being "Mr. Nice Guy" is exactly what America voted for, when it voted.. Tarheel_Dem Jan 2017 #62
I didn't vote for "Mr Nice Guy" DeminPennswoods Jan 2017 #93
Yeah, I've run across a couple of you claiming to have voted for Obama "TWICE", and being..... Tarheel_Dem Jan 2017 #98
Thank you for this, Tarheel Dem. What you said. Hekate Jan 2017 #109
You don't become what you despise, and I'm reasonably sure PBO despises Donald Trump, as do I. Tarheel_Dem Jan 2017 #115
That's the default excuse DeminPennswoods Jan 2017 #121
You know whats not being a nice guy? Frowning at me! That's.. it... dionysus Jan 2017 #143
So you're saying if Obama had been a Blue_Roses Jan 2017 #119
Trump will pardon him NewJeffCT Jan 2017 #26
I agree with you blue cat Jan 2017 #41
It was a Russian coup but because GOP will get to repeal ACA they will go along with harun Jan 2017 #50
If there ever was one,he is one. nt ladjf Jan 2017 #69
Not 'inner loop Republican Traitor', but he was used by them and he should have known he was. Sunlei Jan 2017 #137
Whoa. What is this? Control-Z Jan 2017 #7
Have my suspicians of things they learned but would have to say that a good indication is stuff is Alekzander Jan 2017 #8
Hope some of the contents triron Jan 2017 #9
+1 Jim__ Jan 2017 #71
IOW, those last 15 minutes Comey basically admitted to throwing the election. Rex Jan 2017 #10
Like what? quakerboy Jan 2017 #38
Too many got briefed. Details will get out. itsrobert Jan 2017 #11
Yep. It's going to be an interesting "peaceful transition of power" progressoid Jan 2017 #18
That's what Delphinus Jan 2017 #144
So essentially what we feared is true? Docreed2003 Jan 2017 #12
The impact drumpf has been ordered to create by his handler lark Jan 2017 #33
Can't wait for the details on this. Paladin Jan 2017 #13
I think you are correct, but we won't know till this comes out. Stuart G Jan 2017 #15
Wow. Makes me wonder if he is compromised too. The whole thing is just weird. Glimmer of Hope Jan 2017 #16
I'm getting serious chills and NOT the good kind. PearliePoo2 Jan 2017 #17
Point of Information...this story is reported here at DU almost first.. Stuart G Jan 2017 #19
It was on Washington Post yesterday. lark Jan 2017 #34
Members of Congress held their meeting with Comey this morning... DonViejo Jan 2017 #37
Oops. sorry, I got lost on which thread I was on. lark Jan 2017 #39
Wow. They are not "questioning" his his fitness, they are Ilsa Jan 2017 #85
Betting that there were active attempts to throw the election with "comments" ehrnst Jan 2017 #20
I'll bet it far more than that... 2naSalit Jan 2017 #46
A Fight to the Finish Bill Hansun Jan 2017 #21
Why didn't Obama DO something about him? LisaM Jan 2017 #22
Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #44
Because... 2naSalit Jan 2017 #51
I wouldn't go quite that far.... LisaM Jan 2017 #54
Why didn't Obama DO something about him? LenaBaby61 Jan 2017 #52
"He's still a rethug." Plucketeer Jan 2017 #61
Exactly. I knew back then that appointing Comey, and other Pubs, would have to Nay Jan 2017 #66
Comey deliberately sabotaged the election elmac Jan 2017 #76
Same here. I respect and admire President Obama for so many reasons, Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2017 #86
because the media would have reported it as Obama helping hillary JI7 Jan 2017 #99
k and r.... Stuart G Jan 2017 #23
Please top this crazy carnival ride!!! hopeforchange2008 Jan 2017 #24
Over to you, Mr. President. Time to explain what the hell is going on here. riversedge Jan 2017 #25
Getting chills too...and a lot of them seemed angry coming out... Satch59 Jan 2017 #27
Really freaky, and likely runs far deeper than we suspect. n/t RKP5637 Jan 2017 #74
Once again. That's Comrade Comey Augiedog Jan 2017 #31
Perhaps the last 15 minutes was the screening of the golden showers HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #32
No. It was something the Comey said about his "performance." Eyeball_Kid Jan 2017 #47
Agree, I bet he said something about not wanting Hillary to win because the email thing Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #83
At the very least he's violated the Hatch Act dflprincess Jan 2017 #127
The right wingnuts are already blaming Obama brutus smith Jan 2017 #36
Which right wing nuts would those be? All I see is an abundance of the usual suspects at DU ... Hekate Jan 2017 #112
"right wingnuts" are blaming Obama Progressive dog Jan 2017 #118
We need to stop them from setting the narrative all the time. brutus smith Jan 2017 #151
Can you post a picture of Progressive dog Jan 2017 #154
coup d'etat, democracy circumvented by republicans to maximum effect. ffr Jan 2017 #40
I think you're right. fleur-de-lisa Jan 2017 #42
You've got it right. Eyeball_Kid Jan 2017 #49
Damn right he was. colorado_ufo Jan 2017 #58
The GOP nearly redeemed itself when it engineered Nixon's resignation. In the intervening years.... Hekate Jan 2017 #114
I could have told them that BEFORE the hearing. BigDemVoter Jan 2017 #43
This morning, I received a classified briefing. I call on @SpeakerRyan to create an independent comm riversedge Jan 2017 #45
I feel like I'm in the middle of a bad movie CanonRay Jan 2017 #55
Politicians too angry to complete sentences get the red out Jan 2017 #56
Exactly! Texin Jan 2017 #64
Read David Corn's piece in Mother Jones Texin Jan 2017 #57
Whatever we think it is, it's worse than we think it is. NBachers Jan 2017 #59
Our secret government says be quiet! jalan48 Jan 2017 #60
This article from The Guardian (UK press, not ours) says Danascot Jan 2017 #65
In other words get the red out Jan 2017 #87
My guess is they mercuryblues Jan 2017 #67
That's my thought too. From Michigan here. n/t crosinski Jan 2017 #72
My thoughts exactly. mountain grammy Jan 2017 #82
I posted THIS 2 days ago MY thought on the matter benld74 Jan 2017 #68
I think your thoughts are likely pretty correct IMO. n/t RKP5637 Jan 2017 #75
I believe Repubs (at least key people like McConnell) knew the election was in the bag, Amaryllis Jan 2017 #96
PEETUS BigBearJohn Jan 2017 #117
My guess bucolic_frolic Jan 2017 #73
My respects to the Gentlemen included in the briefing. leanforward Jan 2017 #77
Joan Walsh: Even Steve King seemed a little shaken on MSNBC. Asked if evidence of contact bet Trump riversedge Jan 2017 #78
If it's this big a threat to national securuty, they need to tell us obamanut2012 Jan 2017 #79
I've wanted Comey gone for months... Peachhead22 Jan 2017 #81
I would have beaten his partisan posted ass Cosmocat Jan 2017 #122
my guess, he told them, yeah we fucked you over Skittles Jan 2017 #84
Leak it!!! We the people have every right to know what is going down with this fucker. FreeStateDemocrat Jan 2017 #88
Because Comey knew Trump was compromised by Russia months ago Generator Jan 2017 #89
Something wicked this way comes. angrychair Jan 2017 #90
Hopefully some anonymous source christx30 Jan 2017 #91
The Guardian leaked it HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #141
You know the congresspeople are steamed... forgotmylogin Jan 2017 #94
Mr Comey Bill Hansun Jan 2017 #95
A few years ago... neeksgeek Jan 2017 #100
If Comey, other rethuglicans, tRump's team, or some combo colluded to throw the election... RiverStone Jan 2017 #102
Correct until the last sentence Cosmocat Jan 2017 #123
Two things... MontanaMama Jan 2017 #103
I wondered about "shook" too at first GliderGuider Jan 2017 #111
Yeah...I kinda felt like a jerk even saying anything. MontanaMama Jan 2017 #113
Shook is fine now thearchive Jan 2017 #125
Hmmmm. Was not aware of this. MontanaMama Jan 2017 #149
I think it may have been as you said - Walz was a teacher before running for Congress dflprincess Jan 2017 #126
Agreed. Maxine seemed more pissed than anything. MontanaMama Jan 2017 #150
According to Elvis..... Tanuki Jan 2017 #130
So is Comey going to take one for the "Gipper'' or do the Repugs have something on him? YOHABLO Jan 2017 #120
Then someone should be enough of a patriot to reveal it, classified or not, before still_one Jan 2017 #128
Let's not ever forget that Obama rumdude Jan 2017 #131
Probably that Comey could be trusted to be impartial and not shit all over the Constitution cstanleytech Jan 2017 #133
Comey was a known Republican rumdude Jan 2017 #134
*shrug* Well it is what it is, all we can do now is keep moving forward and work to fix cstanleytech Jan 2017 #135
By the way it should be "shaken" rumdude Jan 2017 #132
Have you ever been so shaken that your grammar slips in the process? Stand and Fight Jan 2017 #139
Republicans used stolen files & colluded with Russian government propaganda agencies. Sunlei Jan 2017 #136
The FBI knew last summer UCmeNdc Jan 2017 #138
Former MI6 agent Christopher Steele's frustration as FBI sat on Donald Trump Russia file for months UCmeNdc Jan 2017 #140
President Obama appointed Comey to be FBI Director. milestogo Jan 2017 #145
in most cases, "reaching across the aisle" with appointments seem to bite Democrats on the ass yurbud Jan 2017 #153
So this is what living in a Tom Clancy novel is like. Raster Jan 2017 #146
Something is going on qanda Jan 2017 #147
the time for secrecy is long past. Unless its about agents names or collection methods... yurbud Jan 2017 #152

drray23

(7,633 posts)
2. They probably found out
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:03 PM
Jan 2017

That the fbi had known long before the election that russia was meddling and did nothing.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
70. I have a feeling....
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 04:12 PM
Jan 2017

They discovered that Comey has been aware of quite a bit for a quite a long time, and now that the coup... I mean election is complete, he's revealing that he decided to sit on it.... ya know, so as not to "influence" the election.

WE. ARE. FUCKED.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
5. So, Comey is an active participant in the coup, eh?
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:03 PM
Jan 2017

Comey cost us the Presidency AND cost us a Senate majority.

COMEY IS A FUCKING TRAITOR.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
14. You can keep saying that, but
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:11 PM
Jan 2017

the guy, who for the next week, is entrusted with protecting and defending the Constitution and against enemies both foreign and domestic, apparently isn't too worried about anything. Well, except making sure to go out like he went in, being Mr. Nice Guy.

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
28. Because you know all that's going on behind the scenes
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:46 PM
Jan 2017

And President Obama seems....what....inept in your view?


Is it such a big deal to have just ONE place in the whole frigging internet where unfounded cheap shots at democrats are off limits.

Surely there's some other place for Obama bashing ?

Have a nice day.


Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
104. It's not bashing; don't use that as a crutch!
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 07:40 PM
Jan 2017

If the shoe was on the other foot, would the GOP be foucing on a smooth transition?

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
110. President Obama has been great on so many things, but
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 07:56 PM
Jan 2017

he has been too soft on Republicans !That is not bashing him; it's a legit point of view.

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
124. A: "in the spirit of cooperation" "working together" "conciliatory"
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 11:32 PM
Jan 2017

Q: What terms did the press use most often to describe President Obama's reaction to GOP cheating?

I'm still an extreme proponent of his, despite that flaw - specifically his intent to let the TPP go through, and not doing *anything* about the many crimes committed during the Bush-Cheney years.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
48. According to some hes supposed to institute martial law and deny Trump from being
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:33 PM
Jan 2017

sworn in regardless of the fact that it would be unconstitutional to do that.

TeamPooka

(24,229 posts)
53. So he's supposed to defy Congress and the Electoral College and The Constitution? Sure.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:39 PM
Jan 2017

The problem with a legal coup is that it's legal and the opposition would have to break the law to defy it.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
101. This is coming from the same assholes who hoped Comney would have Hillary arrested...
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 07:31 PM
Jan 2017

Amazing how people turn into facist dictators just because their guy didn't come close to winning a primary.

TeamPooka

(24,229 posts)
105. I would rather have Obama go down as the last real President and have America destroyed by Trump and
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 07:43 PM
Jan 2017

the GOP than have him do what you mentioned above.
and it might actually happen.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
108. Some here have been advocating all sorts of crazy destabilizing hijinks.....
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 07:47 PM
Jan 2017

Since the primary. They're working from some kind of moron script. Had a friend like that- she asked me why Obama never bothered to nominate a SC justice. She thinks she is well informed, lives Jill, and thinks the Russian stuff is people just being "anti-socialist". She is so clueless and hateful. Hates peaceful protests and feminists too. Clueless.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,235 posts)
62. What an asinine suggestion. Being "Mr. Nice Guy" is exactly what America voted for, when it voted..
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:57 PM
Jan 2017

for Obama TWICE. We knew what we were getting then, and I don't want him to change because some dude on the internet has a sad. As Michelle Obama said, 'the presidency doesn't change who you are, it magnifies it'. And what Barack Hussein Obama is, is a student and professor of the Constitution of these United States. Get over yourself.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
93. I didn't vote for "Mr Nice Guy"
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 06:34 PM
Jan 2017

I voted for Obama twice because I believed him when he talked about hope and change. I've been disappointed, tbh, in his entire 8 years. He simply failed to fight for much at all until the very end of his 2nd term. He needed a shove from Josh Marshall to abandon his planned COLA cuts to social security and from Nancy Pelosi on the ACA. Otherwise, he'd have happily compromised with Republicans on the COLA and let the universal health care dream die. That discussion is for another day, though.

Anyway, what I think Obama owed, and still owes, all Americans is a clear explanation of everything that happened during the election concerning Russian interference. It was reported in the press, can't recall where I read/heard it, that Obama himself said the reason he didn't do more to tell Americans what Russia was doing was because he didn't want to influence the election. Imagine, a president thinking it's more important not to be seen as "helping" his party's candidate than to address the nation, as President, that a foreign country was trying to hijack our election process. I'll add he was concerned enough about it to pick up the "red phone" and call Putin. So why not tell America? Sure, there would've been plenty of people/rw media complaining of him trying to tip the election, but the seriousness of the crime demanded a serious address to the nation.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,235 posts)
98. Yeah, I've run across a couple of you claiming to have voted for Obama "TWICE", and being.....
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 07:02 PM
Jan 2017

"disappointed". I can set my clock by you guys. There are some things that Obama and Democrats have been called on by the "activists" to do these past eight years that have come back to bite us all in the ass; getting rid of the 60 vote threshold being one of them.

I don't much care that you're disappointed. Those of us who actually voted for him twice, and would gladly do so again, knew exactly what we were getting, and are very proud of our two term president as he leaves office. It sounds like you prefer an honorable man behave like the buffoon who will soon be sworn in. That's not who Barack Obama is, and never will be. He has a duty to the constitution before any political party, and you'll be missing that characteristic in the very near future.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,235 posts)
115. You don't become what you despise, and I'm reasonably sure PBO despises Donald Trump, as do I.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 08:20 PM
Jan 2017

Last edited Sat Jan 14, 2017, 03:23 AM - Edit history (1)

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
121. That's the default excuse
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 11:09 PM
Jan 2017

when you disagree with other posters/members. And, yes, I did indeed vote for Obama twice - even had an Obama sticker on my car in my very red area of western Pennsylvania. But believe what you want.

Blue_Roses

(12,894 posts)
119. So you're saying if Obama had been a
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 10:26 PM
Jan 2017

dick to the GOP all these years, they would have suddenly decided to work with him? Nice try, but you can't work with people who won't compromise or open their narrow view of the world.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
26. Trump will pardon him
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:46 PM
Jan 2017

for any crimes he may have committed and then give him the Presidential Medal of Freedom, which will have been renamed to the Trump Medal of Freedom.

harun

(11,348 posts)
50. It was a Russian coup but because GOP will get to repeal ACA they will go along with
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:33 PM
Jan 2017

For them, a win/win.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
137. Not 'inner loop Republican Traitor', but he was used by them and he should have known he was.
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 04:41 AM
Jan 2017

Comey should go after all those 'retired agents' who did share classified information with Republican party 'agents', because he should know by now- that kind of 'leaking' IS a crime.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
7. Whoa. What is this?
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:07 PM
Jan 2017

Of course, I'm thinking the worst. I'm sure it's hurtful to good people whatever it is.

 

Alekzander

(479 posts)
8. Have my suspicians of things they learned but would have to say that a good indication is stuff is
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:08 PM
Jan 2017

going to hit the fan sooner or later over Comey.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
10. IOW, those last 15 minutes Comey basically admitted to throwing the election.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:08 PM
Jan 2017

So, now do we develop steel spines or do we let the GOP get away with another crime. It is obvious Rudy and Comey had some kind of communications going on during the entire election.

Stop with the drip drip drip...if you are pissed off and in Congress - do something about it!

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
11. Too many got briefed. Details will get out.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:09 PM
Jan 2017

And you can count on Donald and his army of Deplorables to attack any news agency that reports it.

Docreed2003

(16,863 posts)
12. So essentially what we feared is true?
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:10 PM
Jan 2017

We've only begun to scratch the surface of how deep this Russian corruption goes and how significant of an impact that it had.

lark

(23,105 posts)
33. The impact drumpf has been ordered to create by his handler
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:59 PM
Jan 2017

Pootie Poot, is to destroy NATO and disrupt EU so Russia can do whatever it wants in Eastern Europe without their interference. Think this is the carrot and stick. IMO, the stick is the perverted videos of Drumpf, the carrot is Russian oligarchs buying overpriced mansions from orange fuhrer when sanctions are removed AND if he causes destruction or harm to EU, all bank loans forgiven. At least this is what makes sense to me based on a lot of reporting.

Paladin

(28,264 posts)
13. Can't wait for the details on this.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:10 PM
Jan 2017

Couldn't be happier that Comey apparently managed to wound himself.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
17. I'm getting serious chills and NOT the good kind.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:19 PM
Jan 2017

Overwhelming sense of dread, doom and gloom.
You think each day it can't get worse, but yet it does.


Stuart G

(38,434 posts)
19. Point of Information...this story is reported here at DU almost first..
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:20 PM
Jan 2017

Not now at NYT or Huffington Post...but I am sure it will be.. This one will be the number 1 story of the weekend and we will know what those last fifteen minutes were about...It will leak...as it almost always does..

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
37. Members of Congress held their meeting with Comey this morning...
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:10 PM
Jan 2017

The second paragraph in the OP:

Several of the lawmakers who took part in Friday’s meeting said they’d lost confidence in Comey and had become convinced he’s unfit to lead the agency, reported The Hill.


Do you have a link to the Washington Post article? Thanks in advance.

lark

(23,105 posts)
39. Oops. sorry, I got lost on which thread I was on.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:14 PM
Jan 2017

There was nothing in the Post about Comey, but there was a front page article on the Russian prostitute claims.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
85. Wow. They are not "questioning" his his fitness, they are
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 05:08 PM
Jan 2017

declaring his unfitness.

When we get Congress and the WH back in 2 and 4 years, these people need to be arrested.

Maybe the CIA will take care of Comey quietly, like Putin took care of his opposition.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
20. Betting that there were active attempts to throw the election with "comments"
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:20 PM
Jan 2017

released before the election on the part of the FBI.

2naSalit

(86,646 posts)
46. I'll bet it far more than that...
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:32 PM
Jan 2017

And I'll bet, also, that he disclosed that he's been a mole for years... probably topped off with a tirade of nastiness about the Clintons.

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
22. Why didn't Obama DO something about him?
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:30 PM
Jan 2017

I'm sorry, Obama can take his Mr. High Road Goodbye Tour all he wants, but to me, this issue lingers. And if I'm this upset, how must Hillary Clinton feel?

This is just so, so wrong.

Response to LisaM (Reply #22)

2naSalit

(86,646 posts)
51. Because...
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:34 PM
Jan 2017

of threat to life and family? These guys play pretty dirty when it comes to insurance of confidentiality.

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
54. I wouldn't go quite that far....
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:40 PM
Jan 2017

He's listing national monuments, issuing pardons, doing a number of good things. But in a way he has to, because this monster has been unleashed upon us. The moment came and Obama did not act, and I'm left scratching my head as to why.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
52. Why didn't Obama DO something about him?
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:39 PM
Jan 2017

All these years later, and I was very disappointed then and mad NOW--yes mad @ Pres. Obama for appointing a rethug in Comey over the FBI, and I don't care HOW honorable people thought Comey allegedly was during the Bush Administration. He's still a rethug. I had a REALLY bad feeling about it THEN, and look what's happened to our country as a result of Comey's meddling into the election. Still more respect and admiration etc., for President Obama. But appointing Comey was one of the biggest mistakes of his presidency IMHO. Look what's become of that hire.

Comey was probably being blackmailed by putin, but whatever it IS that's shaken the confidence of those Democrats isn't good at ALL, and who here is surprised?

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
61. "He's still a rethug."
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:57 PM
Jan 2017

Precisely! I agree with every word of your post. What the HELL was BHO thinking??????

Nay

(12,051 posts)
66. Exactly. I knew back then that appointing Comey, and other Pubs, would have to
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 04:05 PM
Jan 2017

backfire on Obama, and here we are. It's backfired in such a gut-wrenching and horrific way that we can't not comment on it, no matter what else Obama has done well. Where it really counted, he didn't do that well and we are now up shit creek as a result.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
76. Comey deliberately sabotaged the election
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 04:27 PM
Jan 2017

was the final nail in the Democratic coffin. He will get away with it. Things will get much worse. There is no civil or legal fix for this mess.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
86. Same here. I respect and admire President Obama for so many reasons,
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 05:10 PM
Jan 2017

but this was a mistake, a big one, and I too worried from the start. Bipartisanship only works if both sides employ it in equal measure. Not only do the Rs not appoint Ds to important positions in their administrations, they appoint extreme RW radicals every chance they get.

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
25. Over to you, Mr. President. Time to explain what the hell is going on here.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:39 PM
Jan 2017

umm. wonder what he can do???



Elliott Lusztig ‏@ezlusztig 8m8 minutes ago

Elliott Lusztig Retweeted Raw Story

Over to you, Mr. President. Time to explain what the hell is going on here.

Elliott Lusztig added,


Raw Story @RawStory
‘My confidence has been shook’: Dems furious after meeting with James Comey — but they can’t say why http://ow.ly/nzuc307YN7P
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Satch59

(1,353 posts)
27. Getting chills too...and a lot of them seemed angry coming out...
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:46 PM
Jan 2017

Either the FBI knew about collusion and did nothing or...knew of voting hacking? Seems plausible the first thought since stories are coming out about Trump team getting FISA warrants and Flynn's Russia calls...the pieces are coming together...but then what?? Martial law declared, Supreme Court gets involved?? Getting mighty freaky...

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
47. No. It was something the Comey said about his "performance."
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:32 PM
Jan 2017

Here's my guess: Comey offered an opinion that contained his political bias, and used that bias as justification for slanting his presentation of the email case. He's an unabashed Republican/Trump backer who took it upon himself to mess with the election AS A MATTER OF (MISGUIDED, CORRUPT) "MORAL" RECTITUDE.

Usually, politicians leave themselves lots of room to equivocate. That didn't happen this time, and the logic of the situation points toward Comey being arrogant and unapologetic about his interference. That's likely why some of those who witnessed the meeting left with such anger on their faces.

dflprincess

(28,079 posts)
127. At the very least he's violated the Hatch Act
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 11:48 PM
Jan 2017

at the worst, he's committed treason.

Either way he needs to prosecuted.

 

brutus smith

(685 posts)
36. The right wingnuts are already blaming Obama
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:06 PM
Jan 2017

for letting this happen on his watch. Why is it we can never get in front of a story or issue? We are always chasing.😬

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
112. Which right wing nuts would those be? All I see is an abundance of the usual suspects at DU ...
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 08:12 PM
Jan 2017

...taking yet another opportunity to say how much they voted for Obama but how they have a sad over his innumerable "failures" and are now furious because of the latest Republican outrage. Last month they were furious that he went on a family vacation to the US state where he was born, where the sun was shining on the flowers, because that meant he had already "handed the keys of the White House over to Trump," and it was "bad optics."

Et tu, Brute?

Meanwhile, very quietly and without fanfare, he is signing something into law every single day even while on vacay (afaict), commuting US prisoners' sentences, and trying like hell to get the last men out of Guantanamo (other countries have to agree to take them; he can't just put them on a boat). Some of the EOs he is signing will be overturned; a bunch more will be very hard to overturn; and at least one of them cannot be overturned. That last had to do with invoking the 1953 law about permanently voiding unused oil leases on the Continental Shelf.

So what else is Obama up to? Is he up to no good because you and I can't see everything? Both Obama and Biden, when asked about the full measure of retaliation against Russia, have commented that they hope we never find out. Biden smiled.

Progressive dog

(6,905 posts)
118. "right wingnuts" are blaming Obama
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 09:55 PM
Jan 2017

This is supposed to be something new. No one other than a "right wingnut" sympathizer gives a rat's ass.

 

brutus smith

(685 posts)
151. We need to stop them from setting the narrative all the time.
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 04:24 PM
Jan 2017

We need to be in front of the issues. Or we can just put our head up our arse.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
40. coup d'etat, democracy circumvented by republicans to maximum effect.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:15 PM
Jan 2017

There's no reason why Hillary Clinton isn't our president-elect right now, other than all the meddling and master performances put on my Rethugs, like James Comey, to tarnish her stellar image to maximum effect 11 days before the election.

Giuliani was in on it as well on behalf of the tRump conspiracy within the FBI.

My friends, we are in the presence of an installed representative of the republican coup against our democracy.

colorado_ufo

(5,734 posts)
58. Damn right he was.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:48 PM
Jan 2017

In fact, G could hardly contain his giddiness over the campaign nor keep his facts straight. Several times he let incriminating statements slip.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
114. The GOP nearly redeemed itself when it engineered Nixon's resignation. In the intervening years....
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 08:17 PM
Jan 2017

...the GOP has become rotten to the core.

It will be the GOP that impeaches Trump, but not before he does untold damage.

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
45. This morning, I received a classified briefing. I call on @SpeakerRyan to create an independent comm
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:30 PM
Jan 2017

I am becoming very alarmed at this point!!



Elliott Lusztig ‏@ezlusztig 2h2 hours ago

Wow, Americans. We need to have a serious talk about the concept of government secrecy, its logic and limits, the purposes it serves.
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Elliott Lusztig ‏@ezlusztig 2h2 hours ago

Elliott Lusztig Retweeted Nanette D. Barragan

Well the Californians aren't messing around. Another call for an independent commission in light of Confidential briefings never explained.





Nanette D. Barragan
@RepBarragan

This morning, I received a classified briefing. I call on @SpeakerRyan to create an independent commission on #russianhacking



https://twitter.com/RepBarragan/status/819952632202723328



KT ‏@kattracy 50m50 minutes ago

@RepBarragan @anon6116 @SpeakerRyan It should be bipartisan @NancyPelosi @WhipHoyer Pls work with Rs. This is no time for bickering
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Marcus S. ‏@goodwillfiction 2h2 hours ago

@RepBarragan @SpeakerRyan I wonder what Comey said in the briefing for her to say this.
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CanonRay

(14,104 posts)
55. I feel like I'm in the middle of a bad movie
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:41 PM
Jan 2017

and they won't let me leave. This is a slow motion coup, and there ain't shit we can seem to do about it except watch it happen.

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
56. Politicians too angry to complete sentences
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:41 PM
Jan 2017

Damn, it really feels like a hurricane of some kind is blowing in fast. Cat-5.

Texin

(2,596 posts)
64. Exactly!
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 04:03 PM
Jan 2017

When a professional politician (most of whom are lawyers who have argued cases before the bench, FFS!) can't complete a sentence coherently because they're so shaken by what they've been briefed with, it renders me horrified and deeply alarmed.

We're all seriously fucked here, folks. This is bad on a level I don't think we've ever experienced in the last hundred years or more. This is bad approaching a level that the poor GIs faced when entering Auschwitz for the first time or walking in the nuclear debris following Hiroshima and Nagasaki. These guys had seen and been through their own personal hell during the conflict, but what they saw was nightmarish beyond description (based on personal observations made by my own father and uncles). Again, when members of congress are so shaken to their core, you know that this briefing contained information that they themselves had never thought imaginable in a president-elect, and the prospect of this abomination actually taking office next week must scare the shit out of them. God knows it scares the shit out of me! And I don't think there's anything for it either! The goddamn rethugs are certainly not going to lift a finger to do anything about it, you know that everyone, right?

Texin

(2,596 posts)
57. Read David Corn's piece in Mother Jones
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:45 PM
Jan 2017

It's from back in October (and it's linked in a tweet from DC a little earlier today). He's been talking about this since October. The British intelligence officer (retired MI6) who did the report actually handed off the report to the FBI (which was commissioned by a rethug candidate who has since been identified as Jeb Bush - and no wonder the Bush family didn't back this orange sack of shit, I mean Pappy was the director of the CIA for fuck's sake!). I can't recall if the former agent handed his report directly to Comey or someone the agent was familiar with within the agency or not. This article itself is enough to raise the hairs on your neck, but combined with the allegations of the golden showers from earlier this week, it's absolutely terrifying and outrageous.

I find myself sometimes struggling to complete a coherent sentence when confronted with some fresh outrage reported about or said by this abomination. In DC's article, the agent said he was forced to call the FBI contact to inquire about what if anything was being done about this information because he was growing more and more concerned. Turns out Comey was sitting on it whilst he lowered the boom on HC and Dems ten days before the ... I refuse to call this an election. More like an installation to be followed by a coronation.

Comey should be fired. Forcing him to "resign" is too good for him. He and Trump both, along with all their Russian handlers should be rounded up and given the choice between a firing squad or a public hanging. They are traitors of the first magnitude.

I shudder to contemplate anything else that might be in that report that would render a politician momentarily unable to form a coherent statement (like Takana of California). I can't say that I haven't been rendered teeth-chatteringly mute at what I keep hearing about and from these throwback to the Stalin era.

Danascot

(4,690 posts)
65. This article from The Guardian (UK press, not ours) says
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 04:03 PM
Jan 2017

(Members of congress were apparently angered that)

"Embattled FBI director James Comey has refused to clarify whether his organization is investigating Donald Trump’s ties to Russia in a closed briefing Friday for members of Congress, angering legislators

"One source in the meeting said Comey would not answer “basic questions” about the FBI’s current investigative activities. The FBI chief was grilled “over and over again,” according to the source, about his standards for acknowledging FBI investigations, with legislators repeatedly bringing up Comey’s dramatic public confirmation that the bureau was revisiting classification issues with Hillary Clinton’s private email server days before the election, as well as his summer press conference announcing that he would not seek indictment."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/13/fbi-investigation-donald-trump-russia-james-comey-congress

mercuryblues

(14,532 posts)
67. My guess is they
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 04:06 PM
Jan 2017

found out the voting machines were indeed hacked. There is no fucking way Michigan would go complete republiklan after what happened in Flint.

benld74

(9,904 posts)
68. I posted THIS 2 days ago MY thought on the matter
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 04:09 PM
Jan 2017

1) THIS information was known since MID summer. ALL have copies.
2) ALL expected HRC to WIN
3) Once THAT happened, ALL this would get swept away, with nobody the wiser. AND HRC FBI and CIA would take care of the mess out of site from the public.
4) THAT didnt happen.

SO now we have this. The DEMS in shock as is the country. PEETUS acting like a POTUS. FBI and CIA being called losers by PEETUS
IF due diligence was given back in the Summer, we would NOT be here. Guaranteed.
Due diligence cannot be given NOW. Drump knows this. GOP knows this. GOP doesnt care. THEY never do.

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
96. I believe Repubs (at least key people like McConnell) knew the election was in the bag,
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 06:48 PM
Jan 2017

between voter suppression, vote tampering, and Russian collusion. This is why they didn't let Garland have a hearing even though from the polls it looked like Hillary would win. It wasn't just Russian collusion; there was enough other shenanigans going on even without that to seriously impact the election. They have stolen three out of the past five presidential elections.

See Greg Palast:
http://www.gregpalast.com/election-stolen-heres/

The Election was Stolen – Here’s How…
Friday, November 11, 2016
Before a single vote was cast, the election was fixed by GOP and Trump operatives.

bucolic_frolic

(43,182 posts)
73. My guess
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 04:18 PM
Jan 2017

'We're all partisan on one side or the other, and when the time comes,
do what we can to help our party. You'd all do the same.'

leanforward

(1,076 posts)
77. My respects to the Gentlemen included in the briefing.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 04:27 PM
Jan 2017

I trust David Corn and the Fifth Estate

Comey needs to go. His choice of how. Of all the news items that surfaced in October, he sat on dRump negatives. Yet, he had to say something about Madam Clinton. If the AG recused herself, who were his advisers on this issue. There was some kind of high level briefing in October. Did he receive some kind of advice/implication of action from those participants? Was not mitch and paul in those high level meetings?

dRump has some kind of business relationship with the Russian oligarch companies. Of which Putin is a shareholder. In my opinion, the Russians have him by the short hairs. Everything I see, hear, and read is he could care less about any citizen of these United States and territories.

Some might say let him stay if he discloses the details of his Russian business details. At this point, I don't care, because something else will come up.

Citizen dRump needs to go. Lets not forget: the handicapped journalist, the McCain slur, the Gold Star family, and the how to on sexual assault if you are notorious.

A member of the loyal American opposition.

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
78. Joan Walsh: Even Steve King seemed a little shaken on MSNBC. Asked if evidence of contact bet Trump
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 04:28 PM
Jan 2017

Something very serious and scary is going on.



Joan Walsh ‏@joanwalsh 33m33 minutes ago

Joan Walsh Retweeted Jesse Taylor

Even Steve King seemed a little shaken on MSNBC. Asked if evidence of contact bet Trump campaign and Russians, he said he couldn't say


Jesse Taylor
‏@jesseltaylor

What's interesting about the Dem response to the Comey meeting is that no Republicans have come out to belittle them.

obamanut2012

(26,080 posts)
79. If it's this big a threat to national securuty, they need to tell us
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 04:37 PM
Jan 2017

I understand some things have to stay classified, but the American people need to know.

We have a right to know.

Contact your Senators and Reps now.

Peachhead22

(1,078 posts)
81. I've wanted Comey gone for months...
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 04:44 PM
Jan 2017

I'm sure most if not all of us feel the same. But the thing that sucks most to me? If Comey gets canned by Pres. Obama now, then Trump gets to hand pick the next head of the FBI. Yikes!

 

FreeStateDemocrat

(2,654 posts)
88. Leak it!!! We the people have every right to know what is going down with this fucker.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 05:30 PM
Jan 2017

Forget national security that boat has already sunk.

Right now there is a complete meltdown in trust in every aspect of our national institutions, the press was our last hope and they are either badly compromised or totally inept.

 

Generator

(7,770 posts)
89. Because Comey knew Trump was compromised by Russia months ago
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 05:34 PM
Jan 2017

And still won't even tell them about any investigation. Traitor.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
91. Hopefully some anonymous source
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 05:56 PM
Jan 2017

leaks the details of the briefing. Probably only classified because it would embarrass members of the government. Probably nothing national security related in there at all.

 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
141. The Guardian leaked it
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 07:51 AM
Jan 2017

Basically Comey treated them like the public, would not tell them what he was working on, would not answer questions that I suppose he considered loaded questions.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/13/fbi-investigation-donald-trump-russia-james-comey-congress

forgotmylogin

(7,530 posts)
94. You know the congresspeople are steamed...
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 06:42 PM
Jan 2017

They're using the hip street lingo like all the kids: "My confidence has been shook."

(No, Grammarly, leave that alone...)

 

Bill Hansun

(26 posts)
95. Mr Comey
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 06:43 PM
Jan 2017

Comey has been in the middle of this mess and his decisions are keeping him there. What's next for Mr Comey?

neeksgeek

(1,214 posts)
100. A few years ago...
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 07:23 PM
Jan 2017

The Reich-wingers were up in arms about "black helicopters" and "the new world order."

Well, this is the new world order. And they must not win.

RiverStone

(7,228 posts)
102. If Comey, other rethuglicans, tRump's team, or some combo colluded to throw the election...
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 07:37 PM
Jan 2017

This would be a high crime of unprecedented order.

Next a constitutional crisis.

Then some kind of re-do to recalibrate the balance of power.

The American people (at least the majority of them) won't stand for an illegitimate presidency!

MontanaMama

(23,322 posts)
103. Two things...
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 07:38 PM
Jan 2017

First, to Rep. Tim Walz. The term should be "My confidence has been shaken". Not "shook". Grammar 101.

Second, and more importantly: WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT????!!!"

No more head shaking and hand wringing. We need our leadership to come out swinging. Your country demands it.

It's time to whip and ride folks. Make no mistake. This is what a coup looks like.



 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
111. I wondered about "shook" too at first
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 07:57 PM
Jan 2017

Then I realized that when people are really shaken their grammar goes pear-shaped. Some of them could barely even speak when they came out, they were so shook.

Yes, it's a coup. It has been many years in the making, and here it is.

MontanaMama

(23,322 posts)
113. Yeah...I kinda felt like a jerk even saying anything.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 08:15 PM
Jan 2017

Gah! My mom used to charge me a penalty from my allowance for grammatical errors.

I wish we could know what they heard. It must have been awful. I hope there's more going on behind Dem closed doors than we know about. My confidence is indeed, quite shaken.

thearchive

(14 posts)
125. Shook is fine now
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 11:33 PM
Jan 2017

In 1995 mobb Deep came out with the song "Shook Ones" and it's been a pretty common term.



Shook means scared in this context.

Shaken means astonishment.

Maybe he was booth shaken and shook?

dflprincess

(28,079 posts)
126. I think it may have been as you said - Walz was a teacher before running for Congress
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 11:39 PM
Jan 2017

(geography, not English).

He generally comes off as a pretty even keel kind of guy. I can't imagine what they heard that left them all sputtering and worse. I really thought Maxine Waters was ready to smack someone.

I have to wonder if this really is a security issue or one of those "for the good of the country" things that really isn't anything but a cover up to keep some prominent heads from rolling (figuratively).


MontanaMama

(23,322 posts)
150. Agreed. Maxine seemed more pissed than anything.
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 03:17 PM
Jan 2017

I'd love to know what they heard, however. For the good of the country...how convenient. Time to inconvenience some of these fools.



cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
133. Probably that Comey could be trusted to be impartial and not shit all over the Constitution
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 04:15 AM
Jan 2017

and Comey sure showed him how he actually could not be impartial and how to properly shit all over the Constitution.

 

rumdude

(448 posts)
134. Comey was a known Republican
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 04:20 AM
Jan 2017

And looking back at Comey's record at Wake Forest - the signs were all visible that he would likely be a partisan hack. Obama should have nominated a Democrat. He should have known better. But no, he always had to try in vain to reach across the aisle.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
135. *shrug* Well it is what it is, all we can do now is keep moving forward and work to fix
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 04:25 AM
Jan 2017

the problems Trump and the GOP are going to probably cause the nation.

Stand and Fight

(7,480 posts)
139. Have you ever been so shaken that your grammar slips in the process?
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 07:32 AM
Jan 2017

I suspect that whatever they heard in there shook them to the core.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
136. Republicans used stolen files & colluded with Russian government propaganda agencies.
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 04:35 AM
Jan 2017
Republican party people ALL colluded with-directly met with Russians based at those two USA "Russians only resorts" . The two resorts Obama EVICTED, all 200? Russians booted out of America on 72 hour Guarded eviction warrant.


Was a "classified briefing" so I have to 'guess' what info was revealed, and that's my best guess. Sunlei 1/14/2017

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
140. Former MI6 agent Christopher Steele's frustration as FBI sat on Donald Trump Russia file for months
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 07:34 AM
Jan 2017

Former MI6 agent Christopher Steele's frustration as FBI sat on Donald Trump Russia file for months

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-russia-dossier-file-investigation-hacking-christopher-steele-mi6-a7526901.html

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
153. in most cases, "reaching across the aisle" with appointments seem to bite Democrats on the ass
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 10:03 PM
Jan 2017

and who are they trying to impress?

If you win the American said they trust you and your party to govern, so do it.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
152. the time for secrecy is long past. Unless its about agents names or collection methods...
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 10:01 PM
Jan 2017

it should be public.

Dems are getting played on this stuff day in and day out.

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