Elijah Cummings: 'If the public knew what Congress knows' they would boycott the inauguration too
Source: RawStory
DAVID EDWARDS
19 JAN 2017 AT 09:42 ET
Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD) on Thursday asserted that the general public would boycott Donald Trumps presidential inauguration if they had access to classified information about Russias interference in the U.S. election.
During an interview with CNNs Chris Cuomo, Cummings explained that he would be attending the inauguration but he defended the more than 50 Democratic lawmakers who have vowed not to show up.
Youve got to understand that members of Congress have a lot of information that the public does not have, Cummings said. And I can tell you over the last week or two, the classified briefings that I have been to, and if the public knew what members of Congress know
Why dont they? Cuomo interrupted. If its that important that its going to make people not go to the inauguration
shouldnt people know?
Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/elijah-cummings-if-the-public-knew-what-congress-knows-they-would-boycott-the-inauguration-too/
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)who will leak this stuff.
cstanleytech
(26,291 posts)That way they have legal protection from revealing classified information or atleast thats the way I was reading a few years ago when one of the Republicans pulled that stunt in the Senate I believe.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)and crossing T's, Republicans are firing up the chainsaws to come after them?
yurbud
(39,405 posts)and crossing T's, Republicans are firing up the chainsaws to come after them?
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)The Trump administration will be marked by scandals that will make Watergate, Teapot Dome, and Mobilier-Credit pale in comparison.
Jeroen
(1,061 posts)FailureToCommunicate
(14,014 posts)And since I shouldn't end a sentence with a preposition, I'll rephrase that: "The public" is who you work for, a**hole!
longship
(40,416 posts)"This is the sort of bloody nonsense up with which I will not put." Winston Churchill
leapinggnome
(66 posts)the phrase wasn't "bloody nonsense" but "errant pedantry." Of which I am also guilty, namely with this reply
longship
(40,416 posts)However, Google apparently disagrees.
Quotations like this tend to morph.
My best to you.
Maraya1969
(22,480 posts)And I hope people have already started the process
matt819
(10,749 posts)Yes, I know all about sources and methods. I lived that life for more than a decade. But this is just too damned important.
Release the information. Today.
DK504
(3,847 posts)I feel like everything I hear from the media is: blah, blah.... Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Release the information. Do this Intelligence agencies really think we want a traitor and collaborator in the WH.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)You just know that Republicans would be shouting about it at the top of their lungs if the shoe were on the other foot.
But Democrats have to never colour outside the lines. By the time any of it leaks out, the nation will be in full scale war footing with corporate news pushing the nationalist call to arms 24/7 and this will be irrelevant past history.
deminks
(11,014 posts)Let the chips fall where they may.
It's like a woman's friend saying, "if you knew what I knew about your husband, you'd never have unprotected sex with him again."
If the information is that vital and terrible, either tell us (you know, the people whose tax money is going to go towards what Cheeto wants for the next 4 years), or shut up.
If there was illegal assistance between Russia and the Trump campaign, get it out there so he can be charged with a crime.
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)raccoon
(31,111 posts)ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)mopinko
(70,109 posts)considering what we ALREADY know, for god sakes, we need the truth.
Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)wishstar
(5,269 posts)Says he is attending as a witness to history and is trying to avoid being accused of partisanship by pleading with Repubs for public hearings since Trump/Russia matters are too serious to be characterized as a partisan squabble.
For months, Repubs have succeeded in tying hands of Dems who know anything by only allowing private classified briefings since Repubs know that anything leaked is not given the credibility of public hearings
bdamomma
(63,849 posts)it's part of their job to tell us, oh yes we have our own theories here at DU. If this was about Comey and the FBI we know this was part of coup. These leaks will come out.
And then you have that witch Kellyanne saying they want to protect Americans and not to tell them the truth. THAT IS TOTAL BS.
so if Cummings is saying what the Congress knows would stop them from going to the Inauguration then why give this filthy man the oath????
bdamomma
(63,849 posts)amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)Congress works for us. We have a right to know.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)They don't care about anything except getting even. And making all the money they can while they can.
xor
(1,204 posts)They could release video of Putin and Trump planning everything from hacking emails to hacking the voting machines themselves, and they would still defend it somehow.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)Naw. That would be fake news that was photoshopped.
harun
(11,348 posts)MontanaMama
(23,315 posts)Somebody. Please. Now is the time. De-ligitimize this vile man.
CanonRay
(14,101 posts)dhill926
(16,339 posts)what in the bloody hell is going on here. Disgusting.
democrank
(11,094 posts)to lead a truth-seeking reporter in the right direction.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)Where was the public during this last election? How can so few determine the leadership of a nation once represented by the lady with a beacon of light on the shores of NYC? "Something Wicked This Way Comes", it is my duty to resist.
CrispyQ
(36,469 posts)They haven't been a true opposition party for 35 years. Look for unprecedented voter disenfranchisement the next few years as the GOP finagles a few more state governments & secures permanent power at the fed level. We are fucked unless someone falls on their sword & puts the country first.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)Perseus
(4,341 posts)No we don't, that was a sham...What we need is democratic politicians with balls to tell the people what is going on and why these mad men should not take the power they don't deserve.
underpants
(182,807 posts)many people will not consider this a legitimate Presidency" --paraphrased
I was watching it and Cuomo had a WHOA! look on his face.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Come on , YOU are better than this. You are going, but most wouldn't if they knew what you know. You are sounding a bit like trump...convoluted, passive aggressive.
Quit hinting, like Rudy Gulianni, oh I know so much...and then later. I didn't know a thing.
Have the guts, take the risk, and stand up for God's sake.
Be a patriot, . , rather than a coward
Raster
(20,998 posts)I am sick and fucking tired of all of this "ohhh, decorum, rule of law, tradition....BULLSHIT! We are the victims of a coup with foreign AND DOMESTIC enemies nipping at the heels of our Republic.
TELL US! NOW! Tell us before the madman takes the Oath of Office.
TELL US!
TO ALL THE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, INTELLIGENCE SERVICES AND OTHER BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT:
Tell US! If you do not tell us everthing you know, THEN YOU ARE JUST AS CORRUPT AS THEY ARE!
Orrex
(63,212 posts)If a Republican had damning info that would seriously damage Obama's presidency, does anyone think that the Republican wouldn't be spreading the word from coast to coast 24/7?
While we're so busy "going high," Republicans are laying the groundwork to destroy the country.
Raster
(20,998 posts)...the gates and are heading into our homes. It is time for us to stand up on our feet and be counted.
TELL US NOW!
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)This is our country too...
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)This is unconscionable.
ffr
(22,670 posts)We're more sophisticated than your typical frothing at the mouth rabid RW voter, that will believe anything the RW spews out, because it's what they want to hear. Life was never designed to be that simplistic. Play the part of someone else's fool at your own peril.
There's your sign, Joe and Jan Hoodwink! We know who you are.
triron
(22,003 posts)Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)Enough.
Raster
(20,998 posts)Unfortunately even some of the good guys are blinded by the bullshit and blather, and cannot see the forward.
...and whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, IT IS THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
2naSalit
(86,622 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)Public officials are sworn to defend this country.
What is going on here?
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Blackmail them if you have to, but do SOMETHING. That's what THEY do. It already is probably too late.
How difficult is it to get something leaked? I mean, it has been known to happen.. duh !!
Are you telling me you guys don't have shit on McConnell, for example? Give me a break.
onethatcares
(16,168 posts)i'm tired of this bullllshit.
i'm of the persuasion that our dear old republic is a sham and has been for a while
drray23
(7,629 posts)Im not sure if it was for the whole congress or members of certain commitees. Either way its a lot of people and I expect that the contents of these briefings will get leaked to the press at some point.
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)impeached, Pence will be President. Or the Republican controlled House will pick the President. They should have disclosed this 6 months ago. I'm guessing many in Congress already knew which is why so many of them were withholding their support of Trump at the time.
mobeau69
(11,144 posts)SamKnause
(13,106 posts)What is the purpose of having a government elected by the people if;
If the people are always in the dark ???
If the people are never allowed to know the truth ???
If the guilty are protected and never punished ???
If the the facts are buried for 40, 50, or 99 years ???
itcfish
(1,828 posts)Tell the American people what they know. They are our representatives. We should be informed.
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)by withholding information.
It was the voter's right to know that he was under FBI and CIA investigation, they dont' just keep that a secret because then if he gets elected they knew it would lead to chaos, and maybe that's what they were hoping for.
The FBI, CIA, and even the Obama Administration are all complicit in this. President Obama could have made a recess appointment to the Supreme Court KNOWING THIS INFORMATION and he still did not do this. Now the Supreme Court could very well be the deciding entity for whether or not Trump's election stands.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)"If the public knew what we knew?" WTF is up with that? Why can't we be told? Now? This Moment? What a bunch of spin like BS?
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)chase us down the street and lynch us.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/4/3/1199001/-Jeb-Bush-Oliver-North-and-the-Murder-of-CIA-Drug-Smuggler-Barry-Seal-in-1986
JPPaverage
(508 posts)Tell us Cummings. We the public have a right to know.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)Simpy unacceptable, completely and entirely that we dont have this information.
We must DEMAND it somehow, but how?
MrPurple
(985 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)The Democrats are going to have to figure out a way to get the information out to the public.
WE THE PEOPLE have a right to know.
FreeStateDemocrat
(2,654 posts)Any foreign hostile power already has this information it is only being kept secret from we the sheep.
Keep us in the dark and feed us bullshit!
cjbgreen
(181 posts)The Republicans and Democrats have an obligation to demand the release of the information Cummings is referencing. During Watergate there was a bi-partisan investigation of Nixon. Peaceful transition of government should not be defined as accepting the results of an election that where: votes were flipped, voters were prevented from voting, information was with held, or the nominee or nominees are unqualified based on criminal or illegal activities.
annabanana
(52,791 posts)and probably treasonous.
Generator
(7,770 posts)Well I'm going into lockdown tomorrow. No TV, No social media, no DU. I plan to protest tomorrow and then wait for the world to end. (like it would be quick-I'm sure we have to watch the country be destroyed slowly and then all wake up poorer than ever) I woke up this morning thinking why should anyone save us? We didn't save the hundreds of thousands in Syria. (not that we necessarily could have but my point is the rest of humanity gets their worlds torn to shreds-why are we the exception-because we aren't going to be) Or fill in the country. We have been smug and certain we are better than the rest of the world. We are punks that have elected a reality tv conman traitor and yes Obama is giving him the nuclear codes. I didn't have the power to stop this. These people we elected do. And they have failed us and the entire world.
murielm99
(30,741 posts)I will listen to music and clean the house while I still have a house to clean.
I have fought this kind of crap my whole life. I wonder if, at 68, I have any fight left in me.
llmart
(15,540 posts)I'd already decided not to turn on the radio or TV (I don't have cable and watch next to no TV, so I'm used to it), but I don't even want to hear a blip about "him" at all. I, too, am almost 68 and we've seen a lot of shit once we reach this age, but this is the worst political crisis I've ever seen, and I've seen Kent State, the Kennedy's and Dr. King being assassinated, 9/11 under W's watch, VietNam, so for me to say this is the worst is saying something.
Maybe being older and wiser and now being a grandmother, I just can't fathom what happened to my country.
Maven
(10,533 posts)WE HAVE A GODDAMN RIGHT TO KNOW. Congress works for US, remember?
GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)Vinca
(50,273 posts)(Yes, I'm yelling.)
EllieBC
(3,014 posts)Why is no one saying what it is?
Would they be prosecuted????
wishstar
(5,269 posts)EllieBC
(3,014 posts)that Russia could basically fuck over any country and manipulate their elections. And that is something that EVERY nation needs to be aware of and concerned over.
And I am hoping that this show called the Inauguration tomorrow is just that. Just a show because Congress already has something in the works to get rid of Trump but they are afraid to cancel the show.
Chakaconcarne
(2,453 posts)far right leaderships are in power....and these far right leaderships will say... well, it's Putin.. nothing we can do about that...
It's begun.... I don't know that we will ever stop it.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)as part of their legislative acts. They are protected specifically by a provision of the Constitution referred to
as "the speech or debate clause"...
for any Speech or Debate in either House, they [senators and representatives] shall not be questioned in any other place.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_or_Debate_Clause
At most they could be expelled from Congress.
This is the protection Mike Gravel had when he revealed the Pentagon Papers material to the public by reading
it out loud...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravel_v._United_States
humbled_opinion
(4,423 posts)or introduce impeachment proceedings on day one.
get the red out
(13,466 posts)I guessed there was a lot more that hadn't been revealed to the public. Pee-gate was just the comic relief of this horror story.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)adigal
(7,581 posts)who scolded the head of Buzzfeed for the document dump.
Jake Stern
(3,145 posts)Yet all we get are crickets from Julian Asshole.
Even if he had them, the cowardly sex offender wouldn't drop files on his pals RasPutin and TrumpenFuhrer.
trueblue2007
(17,218 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Leith
(7,809 posts)Tell us or don't. Just don't keep saying that you have amazing info that you can't tell us about orange boy.
Crash2Parties
(6,017 posts)David Williams
(6 posts)What's the chances that a Russian has infiltrated the White House ?
meadowlander
(4,395 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)Spill it.
compsports
(91 posts)I agree with the sentiments in the thread that this information needs to be released yesterday.
Do we call our Representatives and Senators every day to put pressure on them to do this? What else can we do?
brush
(53,778 posts)Or are you all talk and no action?
Find this stuff and leak it.