Judge refuses to toss lawsuit on harsh CIA interrogation Nicholas K. Geranios, Associated Press Upd

[Judi Lynn]

Source: Associated Press


Nicholas K. Geranios, Associated Press

Updated 7:03 pm, Friday, January 27, 2017



SPOKANE, Wash. (AP) — A federal judge on Friday refused to dismiss a lawsuit against two psychologists who designed the CIA's harsh interrogation methods used on terror detainees, pushing them closer to a trial that is expected to include secret information.

The American Civil Liberties Union sued James Mitchell and John "Bruce" Jessen on behalf of three former detainees, Gul Rahman, who died in custody, and Suleiman Abdullah Salim and Mohamed Ahmed Ben Soud, who claim they were tortured in CIA prisons in Afghanistan.

Trial is set for June in the lawsuit saying the psychologists' Spokane, Washington, company contracted with the spy agency to develop interrogation methods such as waterboarding.

The judge's decision comes as President Donald Trump declared this week that he believes torture works on terror suspects but that he would defer to his defense secretary, retired Gen. James Mattis, who has questioned the effectiveness of practices such as waterboarding, which simulates drowning.

Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/us/article/Judge-denies-motion-to-dismiss-lawsuit-on-CIA-10890064.php

[Solly Mack]

1. K&R

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

2. Good.

What those two men allowed and promulgated is criminal, pure and simple

They are a complete and total disgrace to their profession, and deserve the full penalty of the law.

Anyone with a minimal understanding of things knows that torture does not work, and the bullshit scenario of a ticking clock is just that: a bullshit scenario.

[Gothmog]

3. Yeah

This lawsuit needs to go to trial

[JTFrog]

4. K&R n/t

[Archae]

5. Psychology sure seems to have more than it's share of kooks and charlatans.

One theory that was popular for a long time was the "Frozen mother causing autistic kids" theory.

In the 1980's, (and to a smaller degree still,) the "Satanic Panic" had families destroyed, people jailed for many years about nothing, etc.

Now there's these two greedy SOB's, who liked to get off on torture, all the while claiming it wasn't torture.

And they had no results.

[bananas]

6. Psychiatry is even worse

Lobotomies, Eugenics, etc.

Psychiatry's role in the war on drugs has been deplorable.

And psychiatry's big success, antidepressants, work about as well as placebos - psychiatrists were practicing psychology when they thought it was psychiatry. Adding to the irony, psychologists were in psychological denial about this, even as study after study came out with the same results.

There's a long history of political abuses by psychiatry:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry