'He will die in jail': Intelligence community ready to 'go nuclear' on Trump, senior source says
Source: RawStory
DAVID EDWARDS
15 FEB 2017 AT 11:08 ET
U.S. national security officials are reportedly ready to go nuclear after President Donald Trumps latest attack on the intelligence community.
In a series of tweets on Tuesday and Wednesday, Trump insisted that the real scandal was not that former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn lied about his contact with Russia. Instead, the president blasted what he said were un-American leaks that led to Flynns ousting.
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On Wednesday, former NSA intelligence analyst John Schindler provided some insight into the reaction of national security officials.
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Zoonart
(11,879 posts)I would not want to be in their shoes. The poked bear is pissed.
cilla4progress
(24,777 posts)Prayers do come true?
Only if he twists in the wind first...
Me.
(35,454 posts)Warpy
(111,359 posts)and I just want him gone, out of government, away from anything he can use to do real damage.
Let him pursue frivolous lawsuits against everything and everyone who's ever ticked him off and die broke. Just get him out of our government along with all those bloated billionaires he's using to attack the rest of us.
They have tapes, intel, videos, and transcripts that link Trump
and company to the Russians.
Perseus
(4,341 posts)that would bring everyone else down, because the first thing he will do is negotiate with the IC as a whistle-blower, and I would not be surprised if Ryan, McConnell would be in his list of conspirators, as well as all those people he appointed to his cabinet.
Botany
(70,589 posts)But I have always thought that McConnell was in "it" up to his eyeballs
because he was so sure about getting a better pick for a justice @ the
SCOTUS.
Plus his wife got a lucrative position in tRump's administration, too. He is in this mess clear up to his missing chin.
cstanleytech
(26,320 posts)the Repugnants should not be opposed to an investigation over things like the Russian hacking and if there was any communication between Trump and Russian officials during or before the election since if there was such a link the worst that could happen is Trump is replaced with Pence.
If however there are other senior Congressional Repugnants (like Mitch or Ryan example) involved in this then any could potentially uncover that and thus its more likely that they would oppose such an investigation.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)but soon that will not be enuff.
crim son
(27,464 posts)Heh. Karma, asshole.
Loge23
(3,922 posts)I wouldn't get all excited about John Schindler tweets - these are all hearsay and his information is not to be completely trusted. We'll see...
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Looks like a nutjob.
However, I do think Agent Orange will break William Henry Harrison's record for a brief term in office.
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)Hamlette
(15,412 posts)classykaren
(769 posts)Schema Thing
(10,283 posts)PatSeg
(47,613 posts)He does not sound like a reliable source of information.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Where so few seem capable of rational thought ... and wherein any sort of unsubstantiated nonsense has at least some non-zero chance of gaining traction in the national zeitgeist, no matter which 'direction' it points ... I'm thinking maybe I'd rather have people out there saying this kind of stuff, given the utter nonsense in the other direction we're up against.
spixxen
(23 posts)He is just a concerned citizen. Like all of us.
We all signed up for duty when we were born.
Justice
(7,188 posts)NewRedDawn
(790 posts)A little waterboarding in the nice Cuban sun.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,219 posts)GetRidOfThem
(869 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,219 posts)NCjack
(10,279 posts)JawJaw
(722 posts)niyad
(113,582 posts)Marthe48
(17,035 posts)trump, pence, ryan, mcconnell, watch next space. And all of the other anti-American russian sympathizers.
EricMaundry
(1,619 posts)Article of the day.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)completely competent, but he's not at all insane. Neither are all the conservatives who knowingly voted for him, and they need the kind of big, wake-up lesson watching their president convicted at trial and sent to prison might finally deliver. At least those who have potential to once again be worth their own spit politically.
According to that ex- MI6 agent's "dossier," btw, after speaking with one of the Trump camp's people under FBI investigation, Russia sold $19.5B worth of a state oil company to an entity set up in Singapore whose ownership is hidden. If the dossier's allegations are correct, that $19.5B was to be pay-off for lifting our sanctions on Russia.
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)if true. IC reports some parts of the dossier have been verified.
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)...as well as a full accounting of Comrade Trumpsky and every single one of the Trump campaign advisors and Mr Putin, and all conversations recorded amongst them before and certainly since the election and inauguration....
I believe this was one of the largest criminal money deals of all time....I believe that when Rachel Maddow did a story a few months back about the sizeable fortune Putin has amassed (making him actually the wealthiest man in the world, not Bill gates or Warren Buffett) that has all been followed for years by the IC and all of them are in thick. I believe Trump has been broke for a long time and cut deals to save his empire and that this will all soon be revealed. I also believe that Flynn has broken so many laws, including lying to the FBI, and the fact that he is a military general, puts him under UCMJ and he will be cutting a deal soon and Trump and many many people in his administration and in GOP (hello McConnell and Priebus) will either be cutting deals to avoid jail and prosecution, but can kiss their political careers goodbye... And I think they are trying to protect Pence.... But I believe Pence knew too....
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)they've let out so far--the tip of a very, very dirty iceberg.
And I agree Pence had to know too, even if he may have risked breaking a leg a few times from running out of the room so fast. (If he did.) After all, look at what we were hearing from far away in our easy chairs.
And those amateurish sons way in over their heads as they traveled around making deals everywhere from Kansas to Moscow. It took them over a year just to learn that trying to sell access to their father draws the wrong kind of attention--without the slightest indication that they think breaking the law could be a problem for them. What else have these bumped-up wheelers and dealers been doing?
Who in the 45's camp will eventually make the first deal for immunity? Trump betrayed his own brother and his children, not a good example to anyone, much less this crowd.
tblue37
(65,490 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Of course, it's hardly unexpected that they refused what might well be the political equivalent of assassinating their own party's president.
So, we'll have to wait until some future panel or prosecutor does.
Zoider
(12 posts)onetexan
(13,062 posts)- it is now. We are in a national crisis that threatens the very essence of this nation.
Volaris
(10,274 posts)I'm worried about about the CIA being necessary to bring to light the potential illegal actions of a govt official. Essentially, this should be the job of the Justice Dept or assigned special prosecutor, and not the DeepState intelligence apparatus
onetexan
(13,062 posts)and not come out with their own announcements and denunciations as Comey had done prior to the elections. That was clearly deliberate.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)So that they don't have to be the 'actual' ones ... I suspect they're masters at this game, though ... not too worried.
Deuce
(959 posts)Javaman
(62,534 posts)if it happens: wonderful
if not: we're fucked.
Liberal In Red State
(442 posts)Ilsa
(61,698 posts)Promises, promises.
But 45 has numerous protection mechanisms, from traitorous GOP congresskanks to his own private body guards. And Pooty will happily let him reside in Crimea, or St. Petersberg or wherever he can get the best nursing care for his dementia that is more apparent every day.
bellmartin
(218 posts)area51
(11,923 posts)LisaM
(27,839 posts)He is already on record for supporting asset seizure and nothing would gall him more than being poor.
NNadir
(33,561 posts)Coventina
(27,172 posts)I'll party when Trump does the perp walk, not before.
Stonepounder
(4,033 posts)To quote from The King and I:
"So let it be written, so let it be done."
W Mousie
(22 posts)I fully agree with your sentiment, and it was Yul Brenner in both cases, but he said it in the character of Ramses, Pharaoh of Egypt, not as King Mongkut of Siam.
So, make that film you mentioned, "The Ten Commandments."
Stonepounder
(4,033 posts)as you say, right sentiment, wrong movie. Thanks for the correction.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Pray dumpster's health holds out a gooood looooooong tiiiiiime!!!
NNadir
(33,561 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,311 posts)Two or three times during the campaign we were alerted to prepare for a
bombshell that would separate Trump from evangalicals, for example.
Did it happen yet?
yodermon
(6,143 posts)Schema Thing
(10,283 posts)MyOwnPeace
(16,939 posts)if Drumpf were to leave office and be facing some sort of charges, do you think Pence (if he's not also tossed!) would do a "Gerald Ford" and pardon the &)@#*%^^ before he ever showed up in a courtroom?
You know - "help heal the country."
NCjack
(10,279 posts)but the dignity of America would be served by having him die behind bars in a Red State. Only right that his supports get to fête him in his last days. The dealer-in-charge may succeed in making his last and most important deal before sentencing. If he comes clean and names all involved, maybe he gets asylum in a "friendly" country, such as Russia, with the threat of life behind bars if he ever returns to USA.
Hekate
(90,829 posts)vlyons
(10,252 posts)Tweet and whine some more about how the IC is unfair and hates you, and is politically motivated to bring you down. Come on! Show us how "strong" you are. Show us how angry you are that those IC people have tarnished you image. Let us hear you call out individual IC people and call them nasty names.
Show us what a whiney little bitch you are!
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)I can't view tweets in the office - is it related to Trump or Flynn?
Nitram
(22,892 posts)Trump chose exactly the wrong people to try to intimidate. He will pay a very steep price.
louis-t
(23,297 posts)"Are we great again yet?"
calimary
(81,511 posts)As this drags on - "and you're STILL okay with this, right?"
louis-t
(23,297 posts)"THIS is your guy?"
ailsagirl
(22,899 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)...the "intelligence community" doesn't talk and tweet like this in public. Or shouldn't. But the "analyst" is leaking such sentiments.
It all seems wildly amateurish and undisciplined on both sides. Why would the NSA want to let public threats like this be leaked? How does it serve the real investigation? By warning Bannon "here we come"? The real threat is the investigation---not tough jail talk. I don't get it.
Interesting how shredding machines are no longer useful in a cover-up. It's now all on tape. And I guess that can never be fully destroyed?
klook
(12,170 posts)-- not coming from the NSA, officially anyway. Still, I agree that it smells too good to be true. I'll believe it when I see it.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)our leaders. They can no longer be above the law and at most allowed to resign in disgrace as Nixon did.
It is better for our democracy if people are reminded that leaders are public servants not kings, dukes, and czars.
kimbutgar
(21,210 posts)PsychoBabble
(837 posts)... show play out.
You learn the rules on there.
- The Intelligence Community can always kill you.
- Usually they prefer not, can get messy.
- As long as everyone stays within the Reservation, you can live ...
or DIE IN JAIL.
Love it.
calimary
(81,511 posts)What's that phrase I keep seeing in the comments sections? "Shit just got real."
You do NOT want the intelligence committee working against you.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)pecosbob
(7,544 posts)the intelligence community will likely release transcripts.
Bayard
(22,168 posts)Why does the Trumpster think its a good idea to keep poking people that can stomp him? Our intelligence agencies, other countries, whoever. He has no self-control at all. It will bring him down. And the clown car seems to be speeding up.
MyOwnPeace
(16,939 posts)he's too stupid to realize the damage he's doing to himself!!!!!!
Go back and look at his arrogance displayed during his campaigns....................
Oh, hell, don't go back - start with today's press conference!
TNLib
(1,819 posts)awesomerwb
(139 posts)but I've read elsewhere that this Schindler guy is not really all that reliable (he may be into pushing conspiracy theories a little bit).
*sigh*
I do hope it's true though. (I am glued to my laptop or PC ALL friggin' day waiting for updates).
roamer65
(36,747 posts)MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)And while I welcome trouble for Trump, I can't say I am excited about unelected spies sabotaging our elected officials, regardless of how crappy said officials are.
They did this crap to JFK, Clinton, and especially Carter. (Probably also Obama but I have no personal knowledge.)
It's banana republic crap and destructive to our Country. I mean think about it--- spies who tap all our phones without warrant releasing transcripts of calls of people they unilaterally want to destroy with no check in their power.
That's creepy as hell and I was livid when it happened to good presidents. We should be intellectually consistent and oppose such destruction, even to Trump.
Maaattcast
(18 posts)I agree that in general having unelected intelligence agents/agencies sabotage our elected officials is not a good thing and is destructive to the fabric of our country. However... this is a HIGHLY unusual circumstance, in essence the agents and officials leaking information to the press are acting as whistleblowers for the country. Yes they happen to come from intelligence agencies, but that's because of the nature of the activity/crime Trump and his associates are accused of; collusion with intelligence operatives of an adversarial foreign power in a bid to have that foreign enemy aid in their election by using its clandestine services to violate US law and hack into the computer systems of their opponents and weaponize the information they obtain by selectively leaking it at opportune times, among other illicit activity (such as the misinformation campaign), in exchange for adjusting US policy to be more favorable to said adversary in most major areas of concern.
Seeing as the "crime" or activity that's alleged directly relates to the mission of US intelligence agencies, whistleblowing would have to come from these intelligence agencies. If Donald was alleged to be telling the EPA not to enforce the clean air act at all, we'd expect whistleblowers at that agency to step forward and leak to the press what was going on, it's the same thing here, only because it's intel agencies is it that some may feel uncomfortable about it.
So while I agree with you that intelligence agencies trying to bring down elected officials is usually very corrosive and destructive to our country, I think having our country's elected leadership colluding with foreign enemies running a campaign to discredit American democracy is worse.
MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)The CIA of the 1960s. They are no ones friend but their own. Very corrosive to use your word.
And the enemy of an enemy is still an enemy no matter what Mohammed said.
Chemisse
(30,817 posts)At least not the director. FBI is Trump's puppet.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Cha
(297,723 posts)Not just braggadocious.
TrumpMania
(13 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)You know, the one they've shown to every President since, on his first day after inauguration ... the one where they look at him intently afterwards and say 'any questions?'
And Drumpf (who I envision looking like Baldwin on SNL, with the pursed lips and clueless expression ... but with WAY smaller hands) replying to the CIA guys after a few seconds, saying "What is this? This is a boring film ... so ... what, there's a junky old limo, what is that, a Cadillac? I'd never ride in a Cadillac. And some guy is riding in the back and he gets ... what ... shot in the head? And it looks like some very old brunette woman tries to shove his brains back into his head? Is that the plot of this? She's maybe a 6, no better than a 6 and a half ... and the photography is terrible. Who's the director? Remind me to never watch a film of his ... unless he pays me ... are we done?"
riversedge
(70,310 posts)Historic NY
(37,453 posts)he'll never know when its coming
Maeve
(42,288 posts)We've been down this road too damn many times. I'll believe it when it starts coming out, not before.
lostnfound
(16,191 posts)that ought to unnerve a man who is used to the luxury lifestyle
mn9driver
(4,428 posts)Until something actually does happen, I will assume it is just more of the same.
Kimchijeon
(1,606 posts)blueseas
(11,575 posts)What a world we live in.
mnhtnbb
(31,405 posts)I'd rather see the bloviating orange a$$hole die now.