Rick Santorum: 'Millions of Americans' with preexisting conditions are scammers stealing health care
Source: RawStory
DAVID EDWARDS
26 FEB 2017 AT 11:19 ET
CNN contributor Rick Santorum suggested on Sunday that it was a mistake to guarantee health care coverage for people with preexisting conditions because millions of them were scamming insurance companies.
During a panel discussion about health care reform, Santorum argued that President Barack Obamas health care reform law had damaged the health care system to the point that the Republican lawmakers could not repeal and replace it at the same time.
Pre-existing conditions, though its very popular, the former GOP senator opined, what the reality is today that thousands, maybe approaching millions of Americans, are paying nine months for insurance. Why? Because you pay for your insurance for nine months, theres a provision in Obamacare that says you cant be thrown off your plan for three months.
So, you stop paying in September until the end of the year, he continued. You have a right to guaranteed [coverage for] preexisting conditions. You can buy a new plan in January. So people are paying nine months for 12 months of care. And its happening more and more and more as people get the gig.
Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/rick-santorum-millions-of-americans-with-preexisting-conditions-are-scammers-stealing-health-care/
tosh
(4,424 posts)Is it desperation or are they really this stupid??
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)supporters, and their kids and grandkids, Santorum! Lol.
There is a kernel to this. Everyone agrees the ACA rule on this needs to be tightened. Signups were begun "loose" as a strategy to encourage immediate participation. Democrats have tried to do this and much other of the usual needed tinkering for new programs, but the Republicans of course have been blocking since they don't want it to work well.
Ford_Prefect
(7,919 posts)FreeStateDemocrat
(2,654 posts)narnian60
(3,510 posts)kimbutgar
(21,188 posts)Who pays for his healthcare? As a past senators I believe he does get free healthcare? What a grifter!
benfranklin1776
(6,449 posts)By your deeds you know them and his deeds are as foul as they come, a total slave to mammon. A typical modern Rethuglican: I got mine you can just go ahead and die. The morality the level of slime mold. Putting aside the grievousness of his lie, He's the original scammer pretending to be from Pennsylvania while a senator and claiming to live in his parents attic when in reality he lived in Virginia. The voters of this state rightfully sent his sorry self serving ass packing. Of course HIS and his family's preexisting conditions are still covered by the tax dollars of the people he has the gall to call scammers. No one in America should have any less coverage than a member or ex member of Congress. No one. Bastards work for us, not the other way around despite what arrogant shit for brains assholes like him think.
narnian60
(3,510 posts)MyOwnPeace
(16,937 posts)describing our Pennsylvania Shame!
We got rid of him - too bad anybody was willing to pay him for his worthless, if not harmful, Bullshit!
atreides1
(16,093 posts)Santorum, like Paul Ryan is the type of bad Catholic, that Pope Francis was speaking of!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/02/23/pope-francis-praises-the-torah-and-suggests-its-better-to-be-an-atheist-than-a-bad-catholic/?utm_term=.05c4b7463329
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)This must be how one case of fraud proves every crackpot 'conspiracy theory' and 'alternative fact' they come up with!
They think ALL of us are stupid - not just their gullible, uninformed, out-of-touch, drugged-up-and-drunk minority coalition of supporters.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,592 posts)When describing the unemployment rate he said something like, "They say the unemployment rate is 4.9%, well I'll tell you it's closer to 15% or 28% and somewhere I read it was 48%."
All you lazy scammers faking "pre-existing conditions" - Santorum is all over you!
Wait. Yuk.
bucolic_frolic
(43,281 posts)must have something to do with pregnancy
jzodda
(2,124 posts)Reading this makes me want to cry.
These people think that I want to be stuck with this curse?
They wanted to charge me 1500 a month before the ACA in premiums and thats for the few that said yes at all. They are the real scammers here not the sick people.
Before the ACA, when between jobs, I had to pay through the nose increasingly high COBRA premiums I could scarcely afford while unemployed, in order to be able to continue getting prescriptions for insulin filled. Once I got on the ACA the subsidies during periods of unemployment were a god-send.
Now I'm still working but eligible for Medicare, and no longer have to work in order to be able to afford health care. The ACA helped me survive to this point. I just wish Obama had been elected earlier - like 2000.
However before the ACA I remember looking at insurance alternatives to COBRA coverage. They were all big jokes - premiums that were calculated to cost more than the value of the paltry benefits under these fraudulently labeled "affordable health insurance" plans.
It blows my mind how conservative creeps like Santorum think it's OK to punish people for chronic health conditions beyond their control. And these sadists call themselves Christians.
As for people with chronic conditions only paying for coverage for nine of every 12 months... I don't know anybody who does that. With a chronic condition you want 7x24 coverage, because you never know what's gonna happen. It may be that younger healthy people with no pressing need for health care are exploiting the nine month loophole, but then on the other hand they are not costing the system much because their medical needs are so much lower.
Chalk this up to more dystopian misinformation from the alt-right.
2020 can't come soon enough.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)with no conscience. They are really disgusting.
LittleGirl
(8,291 posts)OMG, I like Jake's show but if he continues to have Santorum on his show, I'm going to boycott.
title line is sarcasm.
Penn Voter
(247 posts)millions of Americans scamming healthcare through Obamacare. This statistic comes from the Bureau of Rick Santorum's ass. In fact, back in 2006 during his campaign for senate reelection, he actually stated that we had found the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Hey Rick, I thought the commandment about lying was in the top 10.
tblue37
(65,487 posts)Turbineguy
(37,365 posts)OK, name 3.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)How does this even begin to try to make sense?
Oh, here's a great Get Rich Quick scheme: I'm going to pretend I have colon cancer! That's it! I'm gonna scam the shit out of my doctor's office AND my insurance company! Get them to pay me for... umm... whatever!
Put on your makeup, honey! We're millionaires!
Panich52
(5,829 posts)pat_k
(9,313 posts)And those blood draws, what a kick!
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)It's known as the (life) long con.
Botany
(70,581 posts)Last edited Sun Feb 26, 2017, 02:12 PM - Edit history (1)
Because w/crap like this republicnas would never get elected.
"So people are paying nine months for 12 months of care." What an outright lie.
BTW doesn't Frothy and his family have free health care for life because he
was a U.S. Senator?
Look at this man getting rich by getting kidney dialysis.
Yavin4
(35,445 posts)Also, if people are not paying their premiums for three months, why aren't the health insurance companies complaining about it?
CNN, how hard is that to ask?
OnDoutside
(19,970 posts)Paladin
(28,272 posts)Not that I'm at all surprised.
This guy needs to disappear, leaving only his name as a slang term for one result of anal sex.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)If you start paying 9 months out of 12, the insurance company would simply up the premium by 33% to compensate. They never lose money.
moreland01
(742 posts)If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Right, Ricky?
moreland01
(742 posts)And we're all paid out-of-state protester too!
calimary
(81,461 posts)I'm just sorry to see that assholes like Santorum get a forum. It'd be nice not to have to hear from that failed lying lame-ass Troglodyte jerk for awhile.
neeksgeek
(1,214 posts)Okay! Apparently I was a very clever fetus, as it turns out. Getting born early - doctors call this "premature birth" - and all the medical problems that came with that... it was just a plan to scam the system.
My parents had to fight hard to get their insurance to cover me at all. I was a very expensive little baby.
So, in a nutshell, I spent my childhood recovering from a stroke I had while I was a preemie. I went through various kinds of physical and motor-reflex therapy, not to mention the regular visits to ophthalmologists to deal with the resulting eye problems I still have. I'm lucky; because I did receive medical care throughout my childhood, I live a fairly normal life.
The Re-THUG-licans can cram this elephant dung about "pre-existing condition scams" right back where it came from.
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,043 posts)TDale313
(7,820 posts)Is that our health care system is such a mess that it could make sense to an asshole like Santorum that people trying to get/stay healthy are "stealing" insurance. Cause if you're not fantastically wealthy surely you deserve and should expect to suffer.
muntrv
(14,505 posts)IronLionZion
(45,528 posts)Where is the fucking evidence Rick? Dipshit.
George II
(67,782 posts)....to take advantage of welfare, or the millions of women who turn out a baby once a year to get more welfare.
It's simply NOT true - FAKE NEWS!
displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)he's absolutely sure that people with pre-existing conditions are cheating insurers?
Truly heavy sigh.
Grammy23
(5,813 posts)I believe it is a genetic, chromosomal disorder. It takes real GALL for someone with HIS insurance coverage to try to figure out a way to deny others health insurance coverage for themselves or their loved ones with pre-existing conditions! As a nearly 27 year survivor of breast cancer (that has a sneaky way of re-emerging many, many years later), I want to know for sure that my health insurance will cover treatment for the thing I fear most coming back!! Asshat....
Freethinker65
(10,048 posts)Therefore, I am pretty damn sure Rick is full of santorum
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)He is a has-been trying to get attention. If "getting attention" means acting like a fucking idiot, he's certainly succeeding.
IdiotsforPalin
(170 posts)Wouldn't it be more of a scam if people hid their preexisting conditions?
zeusdogmom
(998 posts)This man is full of it. Why does any reputable news outlet let Santorum and his buddies get within a mile of their microphones? It does however showcase Santorum's, etc. incredible stupidity and ignorance.
Freedomofspeech
(4,227 posts)He of course is from PA, so we have put up with his disgusting self for years.
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)Enact a law that requires ALL elected politicians have to use the SAME EXACT plan they expect the people of the country to use. These GOP idiots will change their tune pretty dang fast.
sinkingfeeling
(51,473 posts)to decide if your pre-existing condition is fake or not. Can you say, "death panel"?
demigoddess
(6,644 posts)and I have a relative who thinks special ed students are pretending to get extra education money spent on them. Wait until he learns a few things.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)This is the guy who brought his still born baby home over night so his kids could get to know him and hold him.
3catwoman3
(24,041 posts)...THE most bizarre things ever. I remember wondering at the tiime what connections he had, because that is generally not allowed, as far as I know.
Also the cutesy term about "allowed the pregnancy to lapse," when his wife was pregnant with the dead baby and developing an infection that would have killed her had the pregnancy continued.
Link to DU thread at the time -
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002109952
roamer65
(36,747 posts)You are directly ignoring the teachings of Jesus.
yuiyoshida
(41,861 posts)May Karma find you, Rick! or worse...
bearssoapbox
(1,408 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)cstanleytech
(26,319 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Because of ACA people NOW have a 3 months GRACE PERIOD of late/no premium payment before Insurance corp can drop a person.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)These LBN headlines are crafted to not fit on twitter, so just change them.
Rick Santorum: LIES about ACA grace period for late premium health care payments DU http://demu.gr/10141713444 via @demunderground
BumRushDaShow
(129,440 posts)and this is an example. He was teabagger-crazy before the teabaggers existed.
And when we booted him, it was by 18 points to Democrat Bob Casey.
chowder66
(9,080 posts)Justice
(7,188 posts)Remember when Trump used "contentious strategy" to avoid taxes created by tens of millions of canceled debt. Used it, fought for it and Congress and IRS later closed the loophole.
See https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us/politics/donald-trump-tax.html?_r=0
If the ACA has a loophole - if it is set up to allow people to pay premiums, get treatment, stop paying premiums - and then the next year get coverage again even though owe premiums from the prior year - why isn't that a contentious strategy that requires closing a loophole to be closed?
Rex
(65,616 posts)WHAT THE FUCK CNN!?
gopiscrap
(23,765 posts)Nitram
(22,877 posts)Pre-existing conditions were identified by the insurance companies to avoid selling insurance to sick people. So who's the scammer here?
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)If ACA allows for one needing to only pay for 9 months to receive 12 months coverage, that has JACK SQUAT to 'do' with 'pre-existing conditions'. Anybody could be 'scamming' in this way, regardless of their existing health situation.
DERP.