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TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 12:49 AM Mar 2017

The White House is considering direct military action to counter North Korea

Source: Business Insider

In a dramatic shift from traditional policy, an internal White House review on North Korean strategy revealed that the option to use military force or a regime change to curb the threat of North Korean nuclear weapons was on the table, The Wall Street Journal reported on Wednesday.

This review comes at the heels of a report claiming President Donald Trump believes the "greatest immediate threat" to the US was North Korea's nuclear program.

Recent provocations from the Hermit Kingdom, including the ballistic missile launch in the Sea of Japan and the assassination of Kim Jong Un's estranged half-brother in Malaysia, may have provoked this shift in the policy that have many officials and US allies worried. 

"North Korea just stated that it is in the final stages of developing a nuclear weapon capable of reaching parts of the U.S. It won't happen!" Trump tweeted in January. Several weeks later, North Korea conducted its missile test.

Read more: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-white-house-is-considering-direct-military-action-to-counter-north-korea/ar-AAnH0yC?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp



Trump needs a war. This is why he was proposing a huge increase in defense when we were at peace. He is going to start a war. We just need some country to volunteer to be Trump's international scapegoat.

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The White House is considering direct military action to counter North Korea (Original Post) TomCADem Mar 2017 OP
it wont take much for those MFM008 Mar 2017 #1
Especially when one badly needs a distraction? Hortensis Mar 2017 #67
The tail wags the dog. mobeau69 Mar 2017 #2
Precisely n/t Roy Rolling Mar 2017 #20
Lying Republican Traitors certainly wagging the dog. ffr Mar 2017 #22
I came in here to post, "Wagging the dog!" TheDebbieDee Mar 2017 #71
Yup. Wag the dog. Distract from the Russian connection news. FailureToCommunicate Mar 2017 #3
Wag that dog! JenniferJuniper Mar 2017 #4
Suspect it was on Obama's table too. But had more trust in his Admin making right decisions. Hoyt Mar 2017 #5
Big Difference Is That Trump Needs A War Pronto As a Distraction TomCADem Mar 2017 #7
Start some s**t and we'll all support his sorry odd colored a**... wcmagumba Mar 2017 #6
I wonder how South Korea and Japan fell about this since they will be the first to be taken out if still_one Mar 2017 #8
Yo. mahina Mar 2017 #9
Do you really think Trump cares? He is just saving his own skin. TomCADem Mar 2017 #10
The WH embraces it as a distraction from the Russian connection that seems to be unraveling. As for still_one Mar 2017 #13
How Can They? They Have Been Complicit. Trump Will Rat Them Out, Too... TomCADem Mar 2017 #29
You might be right Tom, but I don't know if they can move it outside of the WH. Tunes and Burr can still_one Mar 2017 #35
How Can They Fall With One Party Rule... TomCADem Mar 2017 #36
Well, Pandora's box has been open, and I don't think they will be able to stop it. I cannot still_one Mar 2017 #53
I imagine they are freaking out. Particularly Seoul would be destroyed in minutes Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #42
Don't forget about China. briv1016 Mar 2017 #44
Idiots. North Korea will rain destruction on Seoul with artillery and missiles dalton99a Mar 2017 #11
I bet Trump and his degenerates relish the idea. tenorly Mar 2017 #12
So, What is The Downside from Trump's Point of View If He Is Looking for a Distraction? TomCADem Mar 2017 #30
The thing about sociopaths mahina Mar 2017 #32
And here I thought he believed 'the greatest immediate threat' to the sinkingfeeling Mar 2017 #14
With thousands of missiles aimed at Seoul, I think AJT Mar 2017 #15
I have in-laws in Seoul. Trump is a clear & present danger to my family. Nt yodermon Mar 2017 #16
Somebody ought to ask South Koreans before we start any war since they would be far more effected yurbud Mar 2017 #43
And let's just close our eyes and pretend that there is no People's KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #62
People don't remember that the Korean War was why we fought Vietnam without invading North yurbud Mar 2017 #68
We "bombed the crap" out of North Korea too, a shameful part of KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #69
yep. After the end of the Cold War there was a period of historical honesty about such things yurbud Mar 2017 #70
While a review makes sense lets hope enough people with common sense can talk the idiot out cstanleytech Mar 2017 #17
Bannon craves war. zentrum Mar 2017 #18
Cooler Heads Must Prevail.... global1 Mar 2017 #19
Although I disagree with Oliver Stone's thesis, Trump would be well-advised to KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #63
Hey good news! The Korean War never officially ended. LisaM Mar 2017 #21
They're itching to get their planned war in before the clock runs out. nt joet67 Mar 2017 #23
What could possibly go wrong? Marie Marie Mar 2017 #24
And I'm sure they want to hurry, before the Russia connection becomes more evident. C Moon Mar 2017 #25
There ain't no threat from NK, unless you deem them suicidal. KeepItReal Mar 2017 #26
NK isn't suicidal. They would have offed themselves years ago, yet the keep the bluster going. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2017 #28
Agreed. KeepItReal Mar 2017 #33
Trumpy's ship is taking on water. Time for war. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2017 #27
Gotta produce those jobs somehow! nikibatts Mar 2017 #31
Where is Russia on NK? meadowlander Mar 2017 #34
Does Russia still give a crap about North Korea? I thought China was their only ally. yurbud Mar 2017 #48
if we are becoming more antagonistic to Russia, then a blustery North Korea could be an asset to yurbud Mar 2017 #49
Yea, like China is gonna buy that we NEED to take military action against NK, right on their border. phleshdef Mar 2017 #37
I always thought... Buckeyeblue Mar 2017 #38
The missiles are flying! pfitz59 Mar 2017 #39
Here we go bucolic_frolic Mar 2017 #40
Starting a war with a nuclear-capable state. Great idea he's got there. DeadLetterOffice Mar 2017 #41
Distraction time. lark Mar 2017 #45
Oh, boy. The time is now if he wants to get Russia-gate off the front page. Vinca Mar 2017 #46
Hmmm and just whom will administrate that nation after the war? russia perhaps? nt Javaman Mar 2017 #47
China. former9thward Mar 2017 #51
thank you for being insulting. Javaman Mar 2017 #57
Russia did not "administer" N. Korea after KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #64
who occupied north korea after world war 2? Javaman Mar 2017 #72
You are the one being rude (and moving the goalposts to boot). - nt KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #73
"when we were at peace" former9thward Mar 2017 #50
US is always at perpetual war. It's a line of business and very profitable. None listened to Ike RKP5637 Mar 2017 #54
Well, that will be a diversion get the red out Mar 2017 #52
Maybe just a distraction. Ligyron Mar 2017 #55
Does anyone know if N. Korea has successfully mated a nuke to a medium range missile? PearliePoo2 Mar 2017 #56
The movie 'Canadian Bacon' was really a lot more than just a comedy luvMIdog Mar 2017 #58
If so, draft Trump supporters. muntrv Mar 2017 #59
My Dad was in the USMC and fought in Korea at Inchon where KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #60
Doesnt this guy realize that China would get involved INdemo Mar 2017 #61
+Infinity - nt KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #65
Let me get this straight on the word "Character" This is not some half ass war powers act turbinetree Mar 2017 #66
I have to give him some credit: Aristus Mar 2017 #74
Which is why every Army Post, Air Force Base and Coast Guard Station raven mad Mar 2017 #75
I do believe C_U_L8R Mar 2017 #76

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
67. Especially when one badly needs a distraction?
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 10:48 AM
Mar 2017

Actually both. Supposedly China's not happy with NK, and U.S. aggression in its neighborhood would "distract" China big time too.

ffr

(22,671 posts)
22. Lying Republican Traitors certainly wagging the dog.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 01:40 AM
Mar 2017

Bet nobody gets any sleep tonight. They're all spinning this as best they can and getting their lying stories straight for tomorrow.

HOLY CRAP!

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
7. Big Difference Is That Trump Needs A War Pronto As a Distraction
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 01:00 AM
Mar 2017

Trump/Bannon wanted a war anyways. The fact that this would take away attention from all of the scandals and hate mongering in the Trump administration is just a bonus. Heck, Nazi Germany had to invent an invasion from Poland. All Trump would have to do is take North Korea's numerous threats literally and start a war saying, "Hey, they said that they were going to wipe us out, so we struck first."

still_one

(92,316 posts)
8. I wonder how South Korea and Japan fell about this since they will be the first to be taken out if
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 01:00 AM
Mar 2017

we are this stupid

mahina

(17,685 posts)
9. Yo.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 01:03 AM
Mar 2017

Feeling that big red target on our asses over here in the Pacific too.

Realizing their missiles are not so accurate. Still.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
10. Do you really think Trump cares? He is just saving his own skin.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 01:03 AM
Mar 2017

Plus, now Ryan and McConnell are in too deep covering up for Trump.

still_one

(92,316 posts)
13. The WH embraces it as a distraction from the Russian connection that seems to be unraveling. As for
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 01:13 AM
Mar 2017

Ryan and McConnell they are both cowards, and will throw trump overboard if it looks like the whole ship is going down

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
29. How Can They? They Have Been Complicit. Trump Will Rat Them Out, Too...
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 02:06 AM
Mar 2017

...unlike Nixon, if Ryan and McConnell try to throw Trump off the island, Trump would take them down with him as well. The White House has already been caught coordinating its cover up with Nunes in the House and Burr in the Senate. They are joined at the hip.

still_one

(92,316 posts)
35. You might be right Tom, but I don't know if they can move it outside of the WH. Tunes and Burr can
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 02:43 AM
Mar 2017

just say they were not involved, and didn't try to cover up anything, and the good ole boys in Congress would protect them. Priebus, on the other hand is more vulnerable.

Maybe you are right, and they will all start to fall like dominos



TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
36. How Can They Fall With One Party Rule...
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 03:05 AM
Mar 2017

...Trump has shown his willingness to attack the very foundations of our Democracy. I do not see Trump walking away if Ryan/McConnell turn on him. More likely, he would go after them with all the powers of the Presidency in a manner that would make Nixon blush.

still_one

(92,316 posts)
53. Well, Pandora's box has been open, and I don't think they will be able to stop it. I cannot
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 09:44 AM
Mar 2017

see this going away on its own

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
42. I imagine they are freaking out. Particularly Seoul would be destroyed in minutes
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 08:46 AM
Mar 2017

which is why we have never done anything against NK before.

briv1016

(1,570 posts)
44. Don't forget about China.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 08:51 AM
Mar 2017

You know, North Korea's main trading partner a large holder of our national debt.

dalton99a

(81,559 posts)
11. Idiots. North Korea will rain destruction on Seoul with artillery and missiles
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 01:05 AM
Mar 2017

as soon as it is attacked.

tenorly

(2,037 posts)
12. I bet Trump and his degenerates relish the idea.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 01:09 AM
Mar 2017

It would give them the perfect causus belli and might just guarantee them reelection (to say nothing of all the profiteering). After all, it worked for Bush.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
30. So, What is The Downside from Trump's Point of View If He Is Looking for a Distraction?
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 02:07 AM
Mar 2017

If he is on the verge of being impeached or convicted, I have no doubt that he would start a war in a heart beat. He has no moral compass whatsoever.

sinkingfeeling

(51,469 posts)
14. And here I thought he believed 'the greatest immediate threat' to the
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 01:14 AM
Mar 2017

USA was that undocumented chicken de-boner up at the Tyson plant. He ran a stop sign at 3AM last Friday.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
43. Somebody ought to ask South Koreans before we start any war since they would be far more effected
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 08:46 AM
Mar 2017

than us.

Even if the US "wins," South Korea would lose.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
62. And let's just close our eyes and pretend that there is no People's
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 10:33 AM
Mar 2017

Republic of China right next door. We are setting ourselves up for a major ass-kicking that will make Vietnam look like a tiny skirmish.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
68. People don't remember that the Korean War was why we fought Vietnam without invading North
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 10:51 AM
Mar 2017

In the Korean War, when we advanced to the border with China, that was too close for them.

And China didn't need to match our tech or weapons. They had so many troops, they could keep coming at us until we ran out of ammunition and then just smack us on the head with shovels, and they drove us almost completely off the peninsula.

To avoid a rerun, we didn't send ground troops into North Vietnam, we just bombed the crap out of them, which was a recipe for a stalemate.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
69. We "bombed the crap" out of North Korea too, a shameful part of
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 10:54 AM
Mar 2017

a very morally-mixed endeavor. I've seen estimates that our bombing of North Korea killed and wounded an enormous number of civilians. Been awhile since I read up on it, so I don't have precise figures at hand.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
70. yep. After the end of the Cold War there was a period of historical honesty about such things
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 11:10 AM
Mar 2017

that is likely closing again with the roll out of the New Cold War.

I hope it fizzles the way the War on Terror did, only a lot faster.

cstanleytech

(26,306 posts)
17. While a review makes sense lets hope enough people with common sense can talk the idiot out
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 01:18 AM
Mar 2017

of starting any shit with N. Korea.

global1

(25,261 posts)
19. Cooler Heads Must Prevail....
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 01:23 AM
Mar 2017

Someone or some body must contain Trump now. If he feels he's being backed into a corner he will lash out and maybe do something stupid. His Party or the Military needs to step up and prevent something stupid from happening. I still think a peaceful military coup will happen if this gets any more out of hand. The Generals yesterday didn't look to happy when listening to Trump's speech. Especially when it looks like Trump is blaming them for the failed Yemen raid.

Trump has picked fights with the wrong people. First the intelligence agencies. Then the media. And now the Generals and the Military. He's pissing to many people off. People in positions that can use leaks to take him out. This is really getting interesting.

I agree with the above posts that Trump is using NK as a distraction to take the Russian thingy off the front pages. A couple of weeks ago our biggest threat were the seven countries in his ban. Isn't that what he said? We had to initiate that ban immediately before they came into the country to carry out terrorist attacks.

Now all of a sudden this ban isn't as important and they can push it back for a few days to savor in the glow of his teleprompter speech.

Then these stories break tonight about Sessions and Obama saving the intelligence - and all of a sudden NK becomes our biggest threat.

No - our biggest threat is Trump himself.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
24. What could possibly go wrong?
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 01:44 AM
Mar 2017

After all, he has the BEST people. I'm going to crawl under the covers now.

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
26. There ain't no threat from NK, unless you deem them suicidal.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 01:56 AM
Mar 2017

If they tried to use any of the handful(?) of nukes they have (to what end?), we have sub, air and land-based nukes to wipe NK off the map.

I distinctly remember a pre-Iraq invasion article that stated that US Intelligence felt that even if Saddam had WMD, he was not suicidal and would not use them against other countries as a first-strike weapon - and would only use them if Iraq, itself, was invaded.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,433 posts)
28. NK isn't suicidal. They would have offed themselves years ago, yet the keep the bluster going.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 02:04 AM
Mar 2017

But Trumpy sees in NK the ultimate distraction. I think that Mattis will walk out before coordinating an attack. He's seen NK's posturing before. It's always the same.

meadowlander

(4,399 posts)
34. Where is Russia on NK?
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 02:17 AM
Mar 2017

They can't be thrilled about having an unstable dictatorship with nuclear weapons on their boundary.

Is NK a country they are still trying to bring under their influence or do they have treaties that would incline them to side with NK if the shit hit the fan?

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
49. if we are becoming more antagonistic to Russia, then a blustery North Korea could be an asset to
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 09:20 AM
Mar 2017

Russia since they keep us distracted.

If the major powers are having peaceful relations, then it's in everyone's interests to talk North Korea off the ledge.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
37. Yea, like China is gonna buy that we NEED to take military action against NK, right on their border.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 03:48 AM
Mar 2017

Deep down, China sees North Korea as a potential threat to their own stability and they will move if a move is needed.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
38. I always thought...
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 06:54 AM
Mar 2017

We preferred the bumbling North Korea leaders because a strong Noth Korean government might revitalize the country but ultimately align with China, which could in the end further destabilize the region.

bucolic_frolic

(43,246 posts)
40. Here we go
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 07:59 AM
Mar 2017

He asked in the campaign why we can't use nuclear weapons. Now he wants
to confront a nuclear power, and is expanding our arsenal. Never a doubt.

DeadLetterOffice

(1,352 posts)
41. Starting a war with a nuclear-capable state. Great idea he's got there.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 08:29 AM
Mar 2017

He really is gonna get us all killed, isn't he?
Well, that's certainly one way of taking care of the GOP's pesky town-hall problem.

lark

(23,138 posts)
45. Distraction time.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 08:54 AM
Mar 2017

Notice things like this come out when more Russian favoring treachery is uncovered. Oh, look over here at this shiny nugget, forget that silly stuff about Putin, sayeth the orange assface.

I don't think even drumpf is stupid enough to want a war with NK, but easily could be wrong about that. I thought for sure it'd be Iran, and sadly could be them too. He's going to destroy us for his own profit, if he isn't stopped.

Vinca

(50,299 posts)
46. Oh, boy. The time is now if he wants to get Russia-gate off the front page.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 09:02 AM
Mar 2017

This is a dangerous man with dangerous weapons in a dangerous time. He has to be impeached.

Javaman

(62,532 posts)
57. thank you for being insulting.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 10:16 AM
Mar 2017

you refuse to read your history.

who administrated N. Korea after world war two? RUSSIA.

now go away and stop being rude.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
64. Russia did not "administer" N. Korea after
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 10:40 AM
Mar 2017

World War II. Where do you get that idea?

Koreans administered North Korea after World War II and the defeat of imperial Japan.

Javaman

(62,532 posts)
72. who occupied north korea after world war 2?
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 11:42 AM
Mar 2017

Russia.

now please stop being rude.

it's very unattractive.

former9thward

(32,046 posts)
50. "when we were at peace"
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 09:33 AM
Mar 2017

When was that? We are at war in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria and have been for years. We have been and are conducting other strikes by drones and otherwise in several other countries. I guess all that is easy to ignore.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
54. US is always at perpetual war. It's a line of business and very profitable. None listened to Ike
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 09:47 AM
Mar 2017

about the MIC. It's just too profitable.

Ligyron

(7,639 posts)
55. Maybe just a distraction.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 09:56 AM
Mar 2017

The prudent action, if we were going to take such against NK, would be to massively increase US military forces in the area. Not necessarily in the Korean peninsula itself in case of nucs. This would take time and won't work to take the Russian stuff off the front pages anytime soon.

I too would expect some generals resigning before carrying out a first strike option. Mathis first.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
56. Does anyone know if N. Korea has successfully mated a nuke to a medium range missile?
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 10:03 AM
Mar 2017

If so, and BLOTUS does a preemptive strike of some kind, what are the chances North Korea sends their nuke-tipped birds flying to Japan and South Korea?


 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
60. My Dad was in the USMC and fought in Korea at Inchon where
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 10:29 AM
Mar 2017

he was gravely wounded. He says the North Korean soldiers were the toughest fighters he's ever met. Coming from my Jarhead Dad, that's high and sobering praise indeed. Does Trump think invading North Korea is going to be like invading Iraq? If so, we are setting ourselves up for a serious ass-kicking. And no way is the People's Republic of China going to stand by idly while we wage a land war on its borders.

turbinetree

(24,710 posts)
66. Let me get this straight on the word "Character" This is not some half ass war powers act
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 10:42 AM
Mar 2017

and his actions, is to send out this "stuff" to deflect with what is on going issues with Russia crisis, that is becoming attainable.

He apparently has at least 3 cabinet individuals that have given aid and comfort to Russia, Jefferson Beauregard Session, Wilbur Ross , and Rex Tillerson, and even his lackey sons Eric and Donald Jr, and brother n law, Jared Kusher, and this doesn't include the White Nationalist Steven Bannon and Stephen Miller, and the sofa Queen Kelly-Anne CONway, or Reice Prebus, and then to add to this mix of nefarious acts of deceit and deception we have Ace Bannon / Mike Pence, and Eddie Munster / Ayn Rand Paul Ryan, and finally the turtle Mitch McConnell and the entire republican establish doing exactly what, nothing, looking like bobbleheads on the dash of car attacking the citizens of this country who have health care, when sitting behind this sexual predator, when he gave his campaign speech in the state of the right wing union white nationalist speech. And then the media coming out and saying he had good tone and looked presidential ---------------FU and the "normalization".

So he was at a dinner with some "friends" NOT in the situation room watching the event unfold in real time in Yemen, when 23 children and, one highly trained navy seal were killed in botched raid, and the loss of a 75 million dollar V-22 Osprey aircraft, and this doesn't include other so called expenses, and then he goes into a political platform and they all stand up and clap on the death----------amazing, not heads bowed or moment of silence and grief, but clapping for some political gain and that screen shots .

Then this "guy" likes to go down to Mar A Lago and burn thru $206,000 of jet fuel on a big "old" 747-200 per hour, and all that expenses to play golf, and have classified documents photographed while at a table, and have staff that has or has not been vetted for security purposes.

So now there is a leaked memo, that the guy that wants to make america great again, he is "thinking" of sending people into harms way, this is now became a CHARACTER issue. He has no business bringing on a war, he has no clue.

The above description is just a brief 40 day examination of a complete failure of leadership, and since zippy the clown wants to deflect and try and maybe do this, then everyone in this right wing Congress and this illegitimate president need to be taken to task. What would they do, if no one and I mean no one showed up to fight to go to war.

Then we as a people demand a vote in and from Congress to authorize this BS and to declare, war. This is not some half ass wars power act, this idiot will bring China into this conflagration.

Again, we the People demand that this right wing do nothing criminal congress present an Amendment to Declare War on North Korea, and this idiot must go before a joint house of Congress and ask for that resolution----------------if they are going to do this then accountability must be seen on that floor of the democratic republic and to follow the CONSTITUTION--------------again this is just amazing on the total lack of CHARACTER of what leadership entails.

And when he makes the phone call on his unsecured phone to the president of South Korea, is this clown going to say, since we are still in a state of war to protect you since 1951-1953 lets finish it now, you know I do have a beef with China taking jobs from us--------------------





Aristus

(66,434 posts)
74. I have to give him some credit:
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 12:24 PM
Mar 2017

He's not pulling the dewy-eyed "We have to save those poor people!" shit about a country swimming in petroleum.

Other than that, it's going to be the standard "start a war to kill off strong, healthy non-rich people who might be capable of leading an insurrection" ploy.

raven mad

(4,940 posts)
75. Which is why every Army Post, Air Force Base and Coast Guard Station
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 04:28 PM
Mar 2017

here in Alaska are at "condition yellow".

The sTrumpet Misadministration is suffering from an overload of dumbfuckism.

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