ARMY VETERAN FACES POSSIBLE DEPORTATION TO MEXICO
Source: KTRK-TV
CHICAGO -- A deportation hearing was held Monday for an Army veteran who served two tours of duty in Afghanistan and may now be deported to Mexico.
Army Private 1st class Miguel Perez, Jr., who was born in Mexico and grew up in Chicago, told an immigration judge that loves the U.S. and gets chills when he hears the Star Spangled banner.
After the 2.5-hour hearing in Chicago, the judge said she would give a written decision in a few weeks.
Perez, 38, was a legal permanent resident when he joined the Army and said he thought he became a legal U.S. citizen when he enlisted. However, that was not the case.
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Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)Many legal immigrants -also veterans, have lost their resident status and been deported due to their criminal record.
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napi21
(45,806 posts)IT SHOULD BE THAT WAY! IMO, anyone who sacrifices so much to serve in Afghanistan has earned citizenship!
That Judge doesn't have the authority to do that, but our Congress does.
If the US is going to take advantage of someone to fight a war (and possibly die!) then they should be willing to offer thst person at minimum, citizenship for their risks & efforts.
cstanleytech
(26,319 posts)permit him to remain though while he applies for citizenship.
alfredo
(60,075 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,858 posts)he's not white, he's different, kick him out!
That's some Fucking Racist bullshit right there!
alfredo
(60,075 posts)Baconator
(1,459 posts)1) Whatever thought process led him to think he was already a citizen. I don't know if I buy that but we'll take him at his word. Either way, that ship has sailed.
2) Not much chance for someone convicted of a drug felony to gain citizenship.
marybourg
(12,634 posts)citizenship on a priority basis after serving. At the very least, non-citizens should be advised when enlisting that this is no longer the case. It seems shameful to me that we would accept his service and then deport him, drug offense notwithstanding.
cpamomfromtexas
(1,247 posts)Took my colonel husband three months of double checking everything to make sure he got all his paperwork done so he wouldn't get screwed out of the gi bill
I can't imagine how difficult it must be for the enlisted folks
marybourg
(12,634 posts)and not having documents. But no, I wouldn't be surprised; I listen to NPR and I have a WWII veteran husband.
James48
(4,440 posts)BUT they have to apply for citizenship either WHILE SERVING- or within 6 months of discharge, in order to get expedited processing for citizenship.
It's not automatic- you have to apply to become a U.S. Citizen.
Military service allows you to waive many of the other requirements on waiting, in peacetime you only have to have a YEAR in uniform to apply, and during war time (and current operations) they are allowing people to become naturalized while in Basic Training.
BUT- they have to apply.
https://www.uscis.gov/news/fact-sheets/naturalization-through-military-service-fact-sheet
marybourg
(12,634 posts)them on those requirements. But it looks like the person has to be savvy enough to initiate contact her/himself with the person who can help:
Every military installation has a designated point-of-contact, generally in the personnel division or the Judge Advocate Generals Office, to assist members of the military prepare and file their naturalization application packet.
Some immigrant or veteran's group(s) should make pre-counseling part of their mission.. Maybe this news article will spur that.
UpInArms
(51,284 posts)this has got to stop
iluvtennis
(19,870 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Hispanic and other Immigrants that enlisted in the Military with the promise of full Citizenship at the end of their enlistment. Another can of worms opened,watch for major exploitation by the Rethugs.
Judi Lynn
(160,609 posts)It seemed the least they could do if they hoped to use immigrant young men to fight their bloody wars and very easily not make it home at all.
metalbot
(1,058 posts)But I'm pretty sure that one of the conditions for citizenship is "don't get kicked out of the Army early for failing a drug test", and "don't go to prison for selling a large quantity of cocaine to an undercover officer".
I think we should all be prepared for more judges to throw the book at
anyone who ends up before them in a court of law.
Not unlike the following quote from "Where the Buffalo Roam":
"Will the defendant please rise?
Any person who transports into this state,
sells, furnishes or gives away any marijuana
- shall be punished...
- What's he doing?
- He's reading the fucking law.
- ... five years to life...
I think you guys should listen.
His honour is reading the sentence."
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)I think someone should start a petition and send it to Moscow.
TeamPooka
(24,253 posts)red dog 1
(27,845 posts)Too bad Twitler doesn't have the courage to write a tweet about this!
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Deport his ass!
Archae
(46,344 posts)It is only barely mentioned, the guy has a conviction for felony drugs.
No details, like what exactly he was convicted of.
Hangingon
(3,071 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)These folks act like citizens never committed a felony before. So what that he did. He served the prison sentence.
DK504
(3,847 posts)he came back and probably got zero help from the VA since they have a 2 year waiting for our guys to get an appointment. And he turned to drugs, paid his debt, but still had legal status, so why is he suddenly getting kicked out?
Did his legal status go away because of his conviction?
George II
(67,782 posts)Lithos
(26,404 posts)I too thought you could expedite citizenship by serving in the Military... And I know I've heard this had been the case not too long ago, wonder if it is changed, or had to be specified in a way which is not easily understood.
L-
dhill926
(16,353 posts)now get the fuck outta here..." christ almighty what a country....
George II
(67,782 posts)On the other hand the guy that established that policy dodged the draft (four or five deferments), has admitted to sexual crimes, had several bankruptcies, and he gets to stay?
alfredo
(60,075 posts)leanforward
(1,077 posts)The Vet has seen some crap. To me, it does not matter what he has done after his time in service. He STAYs.
I read the explanation. Who gives a s . . . Now, Mr Perez stays.
I am a loyal citizen, in opposition to pRezident dRumpf and any GOP lemming.
He served, he stays. dRumpf leaves me speechless or wordless after some of the stuff he has instigated. Instigated at the behest of bannon, a former navy ossifer. One guy a draft dodger, the other a bastard, self made.
I hope I have not offended anyone.
Scruffy1
(3,256 posts)This is the rankest BS. Drug charges are all BS in my opinion. They hardly ever apply to the wealthy. Besides which substance abuse is a public health problem, not a criminal one. When I see 45 hiding behind the flag I want to puke.
Igel
(35,350 posts)But it's not guaranteed. There are still requirements he'd have to meet.
Bush II made service members subject to expedited citizenship. No word on whether it's been revoked since Trump took office.
Too much fake information "out there" to keep track of it all. But he fell for some fake info.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,183 posts)Bayard
(22,139 posts)At least not legally. Its pretty much the same as being a citizen. What say you lawyers?
Baconator
(1,459 posts)Rape, murder and some others.
Was just listening to a podcast about another case. 20 year old guy who was born in Mexico received a felony abuse of a minor conviction from California for having consensual sex with a 16 year old. Minimum age in CA is 18.
That's technically one of the crimes listed that can lead to deportation. Court just heard the case that since California is an outlier that it doesn't meet the intent of the law.
Amicus podcast. Good stuff...
Quackers
(2,256 posts)Kimchijeon
(1,606 posts)He should have earned citizenship when enlisting. He served two tours of duty!