White House Says Cutting Meals on Wheels Is Compassionate

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Source: nymag.com




By Eric Levitz






Bombs not food. Photo: John Moore/Getty Images




President Trump’s new budget would increase defense spending by $54 billion — while slashing funding for medical research, climate science, public housing, education, aid to the indigent, infrastructure, and many, many other things.

On Thursday morning, the White House’s budget director Mick Mulvaney explained that these changes were inspired by one, simple question: “Can we ask the taxpayer to pay for this?”

“When you start looking at places that we reduce spending, one of the questions we asked was, can we really continue to ask a coal miner in West Virginia or a single mom in Detroit to pay for these programs? The answer was no,” Mulvaney told MSNBC’s Morning Joe. “We can ask them to pay for defense, and we will, but we can’t ask them to continue to pay for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.”

This was a bizarre defense of the Trump budget for several reasons. To name just three:.........................

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[George II]

1. This is so sad and depressing. Not America.

[MFM008]

2. No.... beating maggot and his dumb bitches in the head

with an axe would be compassionate.

[Alice11111]

29. I usually have get cold chills at suggestions of violence, even jokes, but I agree. Well said.

[MFM008]

60. Sorry

He just makes me so angry.

[Rorey]

3. Just another "feel good" program

My husband, who voted for 45, just came in and asked me about this. I told him, yes, Meals on Wheels is just a "feel good" program. You know, like how it feels good for the recipients to have food in their bellies. Husband is finally wavering in support of 45, and I'm confident he'll see the error of his ways in voting for him very soon. He's starting to understand why I cried all election night when it became obvious that we lost EVERYTHING. I think I'm going to have a cap made for him. A red ball cap that says, "I WAS WRONG!" (Thankfully he never got himself a maga cap. I guess he knew better.)

[yuiyoshida]

4. Sure...if he cuts the spending

on meals on wheels, he can replace it with Selling TRUMP STEAKS at a premium price, JUST OUT OF grannies and poor people's price range!! Come on people buckle up! If you Wanta Eat, become RICH like Donald J. Trump ...or just... FUCK OFF!!


I hate these Republican bastards! Compassion my ass.

[Rorey]

6. Same here

They truly want people to die.

[yuiyoshida]

11. I am waiting for the next Headlines...

26 elderly die of starvation and lack of heat in Philadelphia! Federal Programs to blame. I won't hold my breath though.

[Alice11111]

30. You might be able to market those caps.

[metalbot]

54. For all the hatred that I see here

It actually makes me smile to know that people can be married and disagree on politics. It's nice to see love transcend politics.

I hope you can get him to wear the hat at least once, and that you'll smile and laugh about it for many years.

[olegramps]

56. It is a little late. Why didn't he didn't realize Trump totally lack any compassion for his victims.

[democratisphere]

5. Compassionate starvation of your fellow countrymen.

Let's see how they sell this sh't to the majority of Americans.
MAGA MYASS!

[lastlib]

45. Bush's Law (Poppy): "Politicians are successful in direct proportion....

...to their ability to convince a majority of the electorate that the bullshit they're feeding them is actually whipped cream."*


All the orangefeuhrer had to do is tell people he's actually feeding them whipped cream, and he's in.



(*No, daddy bush didn't actually say this, but some humorist (I can't find who) attributed it to him in the '88 campaign when he was making up shit about Dukakis.)

[lastlib]

7. I'm pretty sure Adolf said the exact same thing about his wonderful little vacation camps........

( in case anybody needs it.......)

[cstanleytech]

10. Oh I wouldnt be surprised if the Repugnants have such vacation camps planned as phase 2 if

they still have majority control after 2020.

[ColemanMaskell]

68. phase 2 after 2020? How about the holding camps they want to build for deportation victims now?

[cstanleytech]

88. Those are spas compared to the special they probably have planned for phase 2.

[Behind the Aegis]

17. Have you never seen the Red Cross footage?

There is actual Red Cross footage taken from at least three different death/concentration camps, and it looks like a fucking summer camp! I am not even remotely kidding.

[Alice11111]

31. I read in a couple of history books and Herman Wouk that they showed concert halls & music practice

rooms. They actually did let the dying, whose children had been taken away, use the facilities, rarely, for token periods of time.

[lastlib]

44. No, I haven't seen that. Interesting!

[haele]

59. If I remember correctly, that footage was taken in the early-mid thirties.

Before Hitler started moving on Poland. War hadn't actually started, and the killing machine hadn't yet been turned on to provide the slave labor required to maintain the wartime construction and manufacturing; at that time, the camps were pretty much a mix of a dissident prison and internment camp.
Someplace to isolate and put the "undesirables" they didn't want in society while they were building their Aryan Volkland paradise.
After the Nazi army moved on Poland and England declared war, the Red Cross was no longer allowed to freely inspect; and certainly not film in the camps.

Haele

[Honeycombe8]

8. This is very upsetting. All to get $ for their huge tax cuts to the wealthy.

That's what this is all about.

They're not concerned about the "single mom in Detroit." Get real. They're asking, "Does the millionaire in Palm Beach want to continue to pay for this?"

[hibbing]

13. Yes, and I'm anxious to see how many Democrats will vote for the tax cuts n/t

[Alice11111]

32. They are cutting food stamps and Medicaid for that single mom, and now Meals on Wheels for her mom,

who she tries to help too. Let them eat hand grenades.

[brer cat]

40. "Let them eat hand grenades."

Well put, Alice.

p.s. And school lunches for her hungry children.

[Alice11111]

41. Thank you. Yes, &cutting the breakfasts programs for schools. Let the little ones starve and get

Malnutrition. Plus, they will learn better...I'm sure they can set up a news site to support it. How much will that costs? Nada. No health care. This is a nightmare. I keep wanting to wake up.

Hopefully, he was slowed down a bit today. Afraid to get my hopes up much. They will just lie and cheat, steamrollering it through as ASAP, if they can.

[brer cat]

43. There appears to be a good bit of push-back by republicans

fearful of losing their jobs if they overreach, but they all want to eliminate every bit of the safety net so I don't have high hopes of stopping this.

Teachers know...if only they would listen. But instead of someone with knowledge we have Betsy "give them vouchers" Devos who has probably never met a public school teacher in her life. What a f'ing disgrace.

[Sunlei]

52. Republicans 'push back' like the few who said 'trump a bad man', but they always vote for R plan.

Always. Like Republicans voted for trump as president, in mass.

[bdamomma]

49. this is all revenge

on the American people when nothing goes right for them.

they better tread very carefully cause the American people are not going to take this crap.

[Blue_Tires]

86. Hey, this is what the working-class whites in the rust belt wanted...

So they can have it...

[Honeycombe8]

87. +1. nt

[LakeArenal]

9. Death panels here! We got yer death panels here..

Step right up!!!

[Alice11111]

58. I wish you could set up stand at a rally or town all...

It would help the skeptical Repubs get the point, and catch on with Dems. The media would surely pick it up.
(Knowing the inability to fatham that these will apply to them, Repubs could just walk by, and think, kill them off, get rid of them Dems and libs.)
Anyway, I got a late night laugh.

[Heartstrings]

78. Good one...nt

[hibbing]

12. sick fucks, excuse my language n/t

[bdamomma]

48. they just make

you want to use expletives no need apologizing.

[Liberal In Red State]

14. Saying it doesn't make it so . . . A$$wipes!

[DonCoquixote]

15. if George Orwell were alive

even he would be horrified that his imagination, and imagination that we still used in name certain evil, has been so wildly exceeded. This is newspeak that even George Orwell would be afraid to write. This is "tripleplusungood", bonus if you get the reference.

[Docreed2003]

77. Truth! Well played on the reference...NT

[truthisfreedom]

16. Cut secret service funding to Obama levels adjusted for inflation.

THAT'S compassionate.

[Alice11111]

33. DT already hired private security because he doesn't trust the Secret Service. Most SS are patriots&

that could be dangerous for him.

I wonder who is paying for his private security?? That's one reason he has to cut things like MOW.

[cstanleytech]

18. How compassionate of them.

[milestogo]

19. War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.

That is all.

[Doreen]

20. Am I the only one who sees debters prisons in the future?

[Alice11111]

34. Repubs already blocked bankruptcy for many poor people.Made it easier for corporations &Trump types

I hope DT winds up in one of those prisons if the evil ones create them.

[AllaN01Bear]

21. hem. meals on wheels is the only meal that many seiniors get,

how obut slicng some of that "corperate wealfare".

[C Moon]

22. Trump needs to cut down on some of his own meals.

[Alice11111]

35. Give him MOW and Congress can only have TrumpCare

[jack69]

23. Said the 3rd fattest president in history of USA.

[treestar]

38. who else beat him out besides Taft?

[ColemanMaskell]

76. Grover Cleveland (at 260 pounds) possibly, depending on DT's actual weight (236 or 267)

http://americannewsx.com/hot-off-the-press/donald-trump-will-one-americas-fattest-presidents/

At the moment, there is no official number for the portly president-to-be, but the New York Times noted Trump’s weight, as revealed during the ‘Dr. Oz Show’ in September at 236 pounds, which was later revised to 267 pounds. At 6-foot-3, that gives Trump a body mass index (BMI) of 29.5 to 33.4.

However, no one really needs a medical report to see that Trump is fat; all you have to do is look at him. And judging by his double and triple chins, seems to be getting fatter.

Whether or not he catches up to America’s fattest president, William Howard Taft, remains to be seen. Taft tops the list, so far, at 340 pounds.

When Grover Cleveland took office as America’s 24th president, he packed 260 pounds on to his 5-foot-11-inch frame.

That means if Trump actually weighs 267 pounds, (or more) he comes in second on the fat president’s list. But who knows? By the time he leaves office, Trump might beat Taft, and win the title of fattest president in American history.

[treestar]

83. Interesting

If he never gets fattest, Orange Disaster will always have most assholish.

[joshdawg]

24. It seems the idiot in the W.H.

is dumber'n a five pound bag of stupid.
But, gee, RWNJ's believe he's brilliant.

[pfitz59]

25. "can we really continue to ask a coal miner in West Virginia or a single mom in Detroit to pay"

No, because they're broke you dimwit. We can demand that bloated billionaires pay for them from their ill-gotten riches. and maybe CUT defense spending by $100 billion to properly secure the future of this nation...

[NickB79]

63. And they're CUTTING benefits for those same coal miners and moms!

Not only do they not pay already, the GOP is actively promoting a program that will HARM the poor they try to claim they care about!

[ProfessorGAC]

80. And, They're Not Paying Much In Taxes Anyway

So, maybe they should pay nothing and then they don't have to pay for defense either. Hard to believe this guy actually thought it was a good idea to say this in public.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

26. Notice that they are not addressing the issue of

wealthy people paying taxes to support such programs. Because they clearly don't believe that the wealthy should pay taxes.

[caroldansen]

27. I just read more and more higher ups think trump really is mentally ill. And we know he's evil.

[Alice11111]

36. I think they are setting him up for the 25th Amendment. Even Fox was taking him down tonight.

I look in occasionally there to see what the masses are being fed.

[Sunlei]

53. Rs are ready with their 'worse case' plan.Trumps gone & Rs can step right in and continue their work

Republicans don't need trump as president, he's a great distraction but he's NOT needed at all now by Republicans. Republicans would be happier once he's gone

[ColemanMaskell]

69. I read a psychologist writing that you're being unfair to the mentally ill to lump them in with DT.

[wcmagumba]

28. Monsters...nt

[treestar]

37. ask the rich to pay for them

what an asshole.

[Solly Mack]

39. Don't even try using the very people you are screwing over to make your case, you vicious POS.

It's not compassionate to gut absolutely necessary social services but you're doing that and using the very people you're fucking over as your excuse for attacking other programs that benefit the living.

You heartless monsters!

[Alice11111]

42. the worst.of the worst...I didn't know the intensity and gall of these people before.

[Vinca]

46. Tax cuts for the rich, misery for the poor.

It's like a bad dream. This can't happen.

[bdamomma]

47. don the fucking con

is starting his own ethic cleansing.

[Mc Mike]

50. Typical repug party two step.

Step 1: Punch Down.

Step 2: Use the most transparent and stupid lie you can pull out of your ass, as an offical pronouncement that justifies it.

[Sunlei]

51. don't know where to start. A GRANT FROM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT does NOT cover entire cost.

Charities apply for grant money every year, the money helps the charity have a stable base, they can feed millions more people. Charities like meals on wheels have volunteers cook and deliver the meals.

Republicans know if they CUT OFF THE LEGS of charities like MonW it will increase States spending on sick/malnourished people. Increase the spending on State emergency resources like police, fire department,hospitals by BILLIONS.

More income of LOCAL state money to LOCAL private for profit businesses isn't a good thing at all for any society.

guess those LOCAL tiny governments better dump their PAID mayors,PAID city council positions PAID police departments, PAID local courts with fabulous health insurance. cities won't be able to afford paid administration positions, volunteers will have to fill those positions. good luck finding people who will work for FREE in those jobs. They wanted Republicans and should know by now, Republicans never work for free.

[ColemanMaskell]

70. "Republicans know " -- I'm not sure they do know

Consider the example of Indiana Governor Mike Pence cutting the needle exchange program in Indiana. He should have known that would cause an increase in HIV. He did it anyway. Predictably, the HIV infection rate shot up. Eventually he relented, months later. Did he know the devastation he would cause? He could have known. He should have. The data was available. I think such people ignore information they have when reality doesn't agree with their preconceived views -- something we see a lot of these days. People can deny information that is plain to see; psychological literature is full of examples -- e.g., people shown a black Ace of Diamonds card will initially fail to recognize what they see (Their ability to recognize improves if they stare at it long enough).

Sample reference on the Indiana example (an article worth reading):
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/08/us/politics/mike-pence-needle-exchanges-indiana.html

. . . What was going on [in Scott County] was unprecedented in Indiana and rare in the United States: H.I.V. was spreading with terrifying speed among intravenous drug users in this rural community near the Kentucky border. Local, state and federal health officials were urging the governor to allow clean needles to be distributed to slow the outbreak.
But Indiana law made it illegal to possess a syringe without a prescription. And Mr. Pence, a steadfast conservative, was morally opposed to needle exchanges on the grounds that they supported drug abuse.
. . . more than two months after the outbreak was detected, Mr. Pence said he was going to go home and pray on it. . . .
Two days later, he issued an executive order allowing syringes to be distributed in Scott County.

Reference for Misidentification of unexpected card color, psychology experiment:
http://psychclassics.yorku.ca/Bruner/Cards/

imho, I think that most Republicans are raised in artificial sheltered environments and grow up being indoctrinated with an elaborate set of delusions. This happens all over the world, only the set of delusions is tailored to each particular culture and subculture. People so carefully raised literally cannot recognize what they see in front of them if the reality contradicts their indoctrinated belief system.

I don't think you can just assume "Republicans know" simply because the information is right there in front of them and it is obvious. Some know. Many don't.

[Sunlei]

71. pretty well established now, Republicans are 'for' Corporations and against social programs unless

the social program is administered by a "for profit" corporation or business using Federal/State taxpayer money to generate personal profits.

IMO, Democracy demands a 'not for profit' system for basic social needs like healthcare, food and shelter..

[ColemanMaskell]

73. Yes, their belief system is destructive, warped, counter-productive -- no argument there

[Chipper Chat]

55. Those old people need to get out and get a job!

Imagine. Mooching off the tit of Trump's rich friends. UnMercan!

[Kashkakat v.2.0]

57. Similarly - war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength. Okey Dokey - got it! nt

[dalton99a]

61. Evil scum.

[Kimchijeon]

62. Yep, WTF indeed

Just an absolute parody of "Evil" but it's real. It's actual, real-life evil. These are the people running the govt.

[ColemanMaskell]

72. Yeah; amazing, isn't it. Actual real-life evil. Not a movie that ends in a couple of hours.

[AgadorSparticus]

64. All the motherfuckers in this WH cabal can just go straight to hell.

[ColemanMaskell]

74. Could be they will. I just don't want them to bring their Armageddon on the rest of us.

[Metsie Casey]

65. Unbelievable

A nightmare. All of it.

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

66. The coal miner and single mom are likely benefiting from the programs

way more than they are paying into them.

[sarcasmo]

67. Only Republican Jesus can spin cutting meals on wheels as compassion.

[ColemanMaskell]

75. It is amazing how they can imagine they're Christians -- requires serious mind-warping ability

That always blows my mind, how they can co-opt the name of Christianity for a belief system so completely contrary to Christianity's most basic teachings -- for example the sermon on the mount, you'd think that would jump out at them, wouldn't you? But guess not. Most of them have never read that stuff, though, I've noticed that, because they don't seem to know what it says. They listen to people tell them some misinterpretation and never read the actual book. Still at times I wonder if maybe some of them have honestly been able to twist up their minds into some pretzel pattern that makes them able to think they're really following what Jesus taught, as quoted in the bible at least. Haven't been able to figure that out.

[sarcasmo]

89. Republican Jesus has no heart and no soul.

[pfitz59]

79. We all know the GOP end game.....

[jmowreader]

81. Trump wants this to happen to your grandpa...

[jeanmarc]

82. Don't these creeps say the poor pay no taxes?

Now all of a sudden they do pay taxes and they are being heroes by cutting a great program.

Mulvaney is a special kind of scum. Hope he drops dead.

[Hoyt]

84. Another little white wing piss ant.

[wordpix]

85. billion$ on killing ppl w/nukes & bombs, Meals on Wheels don't

make the grade in the Dump Admin killing fields