Mayor: Palm Beach may need to raise taxes to pay for Trump security at Mar-a-Lago

[highplainsdem]

Source: The Hill

Palm Beach County officials are reportedly considering raising taxes if they don't receive help from the federal government or President Trump himself to cover costs associated with Trump's security during his visits to his private Mar-a-Lago club.

According to a report by CNN, the sheriff's department said it costs about $60,000 in overtime every day Trump spends in Florida.

While the Secret Service is primarily responsible for protecting Trump, CNN reported that between the 14 days Trump has spent in Florida since taking office – and a planned trip to Florida this weekend – the sheriff's department will have spent more than $1 million.

The department could end up paying millions in overtime costs associated with Trump's future trips, money not currently budgeted for the county, according to the report. And if the county is stuck footing the bill, some officials said they may have to raise taxes or cut services.

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Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/324588-palm-beach-may-need-to-raise-taxes-to-pay-for-trump-security-at

[Eliot Rosewater]

1. Trump will never pay a dime to anyone.

[gopiscrap]

2. Oh thats going to go over well there!

[NewRedDawn]

3. But

They will get it back in spades the rich fuckers when Putin's puppet kills ACA & Changes the tax code so they will pay less.

[bluedigger]

4. They need a special tax on greens fees for a start.

Take it all right out of Mar-a-Lago.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

27. Maybe charge by the pound.

[EarthFirst]

5. Just consider it an extra tithing payment every week...

Now you may pay 20% of your weekly income to support your religious deity and your Oligarch.

[SledDriver]

13. THIS...

[Stonepounder]

6. Why don't the just tell the Secret Service that they can no longer afford to

provide security for Trump because they are going broke and the Feds are refusing to reimburse them. Personally, I think NYC ought to do the same thing.

[Jonny Appleseed]

9. Because what happens when someone goes batshit at one of his properties and ends up killing

Civilians?

[Stonepounder]

10. Blame the Secret Service and the Fed Budget that didn't allow them to spend the

money necessary. Or maybe folks might think twice about bring around him if they knew he wouldn't authorize payment for his own security.

[Jonny Appleseed]

11. You forget that it's their citizens that would be hurt

Not everyone can be so cold to endanger people because of an unfair budgetary standoff.

[elehhhhna]

26. ding ding.

you win.

[machoneman]

43. Yeah, why don't they and NYC's police do the Nancy Reagan thing: Just Say No!

So, what would the SS do if the NYC and the Palm Beach officials called off all the police untilt eh Fed pays up?

It's not against the law I'm sure for them to deny service for non-payment. I say screw-em!

[ekelly]

7. Here's a thought....

Maybe he should just live at the house we already fucking pay for! Since he's supposedly not taking a salary as president, then he can't afford to take vacations, and we sure as hell shouldn't be paying for them.

[keithbvadu2]

22. Trump: 'I would rarely leave the White House'

Trump: 'I would rarely leave the White House'

http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/245884-trump-i-would-rarely-leave-the-white-house

“I would rarely leave the White House because there’s so much work to be done,” Trump, 69, tells ITK. "I would not be a president who took vacations. I would not be a president that takes time off.”

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Yes, I would live in the White House because it’s the appropriate thing to do,” he says.

[NewRedDawn]

8. He is taking the salary

Another Trumpolini lie. Lawrence O' Donnell had a segment on it this week. First payment of 33K sent to the fucker.

[FakeNoose]

49. He says he's donating his salary

... Not sure who's getting the donation though.

I hope this really happens, and it goes to a different charity each time.
Pick real charities, not United Way or anything run by millionaires.

Here's the kicker - if Trump really is taking a salary then he'll be reporting his taxes on a 1040 tax form.
Amiright?

[NewRedDawn]

52. According to Lawrence

He has not donated it as of yet. First payment was received of 33K. Also it may be unconstitutional for not accepting it.

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

12. Oh that will be super popular with the locals...

[Ilsa]

16. Especially since their businesses, tourism,

small flights, etc have been disrupted whenever he's in town.

[msanthrope]

14. Good. nt

[BeyondGeography]

15. Don't worry, Sheriff, it's only the cold weather months

every year from October through April.

[SCVDem]

17. Eminent domain

This property is a blight on the community and is costing the average citizen way too much.

Close it and build low income housing!

Just like the property owners on the border. Let dump bitch! So what!

[jmowreader]

19. You know we're talking about Palm Beach, right?

There's no such thing as an "average citizen" there, nor should they build low income housing there because no one with a low income lives on the island. They live in West Palm, where Trump's property is not.

[SCVDem]

20. Yet!

[obamanut2012]

29. Many of us in Pam Beach County are regular people

Many are poor. PALM BEACH COUNTY taxes are going up.

There is already much anger here about him closing 95, etc. This will not happen.

[jmowreader]

18. Reappraising Mar-a-Lago should be the first step

Trump is doing this to Palm Beach because he can, and they pissed him off by not worshipping the ground he walks on enough.

The City Council of Palm Beach should revaluate Mar-a-Lago to $100 billion - and tax the property accordingly - because THEY can.

[avebury]

31. Reappraising Mar-A-Lago would be a great first step.

It should be appraised hight enough to not only cover the security costs but to assist the local businesses that Trump is harming.

[jmowreader]

38. Alternately, they could appraise it high enough Trump sells it to get away from the taxes

IIRC Trump bought the place for $5 million. Palm Beach's resident cohort contains enough rich people who don't like the bastard that they could fairly easily scrape up $15 million...which he would probably take rather than pay 75 percent of his club's profits as property tax.

[avebury]

39. Raising the property taxes would involve raising the value of the property.

Factoring in the usage as a Winter WH and Trump factoring in members gain inner circle access to the President would be great grounds to raise the property value significantly.

[jmowreader]

40. Exactly

Now for the $64,000 Question: under Florida law is it legal to reassess a property without also reassessing the rest of the properties in town?

[avebury]

42. When ever there is a substantial change in a property I thought

that a county could reassess the property's value. Ir so, I would think that Trump becoming President could be used to increase his property. Since he is also a negative impact on everyone else, I could live with their property values being lowered and taxes reduced. That way, the property value of all property has been reviewed.

[jmowreader]

46. Good thinking, but...

As far as I know, the Mar-a-Lago property itself has not changed since 11/2017 - only the employment status of the owner. Does that count?

[avebury]

47. Considering the fact that Trump doubled the membership

coast after he was elected would be an argument the value of the property has been allegedly enhanced by his election. I think that the membership cost went from $100,000 to $200,000 under the guise of offering members a seat at the table (so to speak).

[ColemanMaskell]

48. jmowreader - The value of a thing can change without the thing itself changing at all.

It happens all the time. Suppose you own a hotel in the middle of nowhere and then one day Disneyland decides to open another Disneyland right next to it. Bingo, your hotel will be worth a lot more as soon as the new Disneyland opens for business. An extreme example just to illustrate the idea.
If you live in a nice neighborhood and some localized economic downturn occurs, such that people lose their jobs and leave the area, abandoning their houses (it happens) - then your house, which has not itself changed, goes down in value.

The value of your property depends partly on the surroundings.

Local schools close down? Now families don't want to buy houses in the area. Nobody buys your house for sale, so you lower the asking price until you can find a buyer. The value goes down.

Local business depends on access to roads and flights? Some jerk conducts his affairs in such a way that his presence impacts traffic and flights? Now no new business or person needing access to those resources wants to buy property in your area. You find it more difficult to sell your property because of this, and you have to reduce the price to find a buyer. That is what it means for value to go down on a property.

Oh, come to think of it, that last example sounds a lot like the Palm Beach situation. (But I like the argument about his doubling the cost of membership much better. He has himself testified thereby that he thinks the value has doubled. That should be enough to double the valuation. Let him take it to court if he disagrees -- but he's already given evidence that he also thinks it's doubled.)

[Beacool]

21. This is outrageous!!!!

Palm Beach County is comprised of 41 towns, villages and cities. West Palm Beach is the largest city and the county seat. Palm Beach may be the playground of millionaires and billionaires, but that's not the entire county. Whys should 1.5M people see their taxes go up because Trump has decided to go to Mar-a-Lago almost every weekend? The county should send him the bill, he can afford to pay it.

[obamanut2012]

30. I live in PBC, this

I am imagining how my insane rent will become even more insane. People will become homeless.

[Beacool]

50. Trump is a vile man.

The worst president in my lifetime.

[keithbvadu2]

23. Trump said he would keep his private security force.

NYC and PB police should just back off and let them have it.

[jmowreader]

24. You really want Eric Prince's mercs guarding the president?

[olegramps]

36. The are so incompetent it seems like umm...

[Doreen]

25. Maybe

they should strike. I mean just go do a normal day and not the extra work for him. If no one shows up maybe the fucktard will get the point.

[JI7]

28. if Trump is as wealthy as he claims couldn't he cover the cost ?

i know he really isn't that wealthy but it's fucking annoying that nobody asks him .

[Sunlei]

32. 9% sales tax on membership fees. private golf resorts pay for their own security guards & bouncers.

[Fresh_Start]

33. levy the tax on golf courses and country clubs specifically nt

nt

[KingCharlemagne]

34. Hmm, Palm Beach could seize and exppropriate the property. But no, that

would be too socialist.

[hatrack]

35. Oh noes!!! Teh TAXEZZZZZ!!!!!

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[Raven123]

37. Sad. Should give Floridians some food for thought for the next election cycle.

[obamanut2012]

44. Except we in Palm Beach County mainly voted for Hillary

There are so many people on here who are clueless about things like this.

Most of us in PBC, Broward, and Miami-Dade are hard working regular people, who vote blue.

[LisaL]

41. Fl did vote for him. Hope they are enjoying the consequences.

[obamanut2012]

45. Except the people who will be hurt didn't vote for him

People on here need to remember SOFL is very blue and very diverse, and not a bunch of wealthy people.

[Sculpin Beauregard]

51. People should set up a circus

Outside barf a logo compound, complete with clown cannons and 1000 mariachi bands. Who does he think he is, Ceaușescu?

[NewRedDawn]

53. Raise it & call it trump tax.