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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 01:30 PM Mar 2017

Supreme Court Reins in President's Appointment Powers

Source: Reuters


March 21, 2017, at 12:52 p.m.

By Daniel Wiessner and Lawrence Hurley

(Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday put new restrictions on presidential powers, limiting a president's authority to staff certain top government posts in a case involving an appointment to the National Labor Relations Board.

The court decided 6-2 to uphold a lower court's ruling that then-President Barack Obama exceeded his legal authority with his temporary appointment of an NLRB general counsel in 2011.

In an opinion by Chief Justice John Roberts, the court said that under the Federal Vacancies Reform Act, a person cannot serve as the acting head of a federal agency once the president nominates him or her to permanently serve in the role if it is a position that requires U.S. Senate confirmation.

SW General Inc, a Scottsdale, Arizona-based private ambulance company and a subsidiary of Envision Healthcare Holdings Inc , had challenged the makeup of the NLRB as it sought to invalidate a board ruling that said it violated federal labor law by discontinuing bonus payments for longtime employees.

Read more: https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2017-03-21/supreme-court-reins-in-presidents-appointment-powers

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Supreme Court Reins in President's Appointment Powers (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2017 OP
I hope it really MFM008 Mar 2017 #1
Now they need to weigh in on Constitutional duty... yallerdawg Mar 2017 #2
No such "duty" to hold hearings or vote exists onenote Mar 2017 #4
There is if the Supreme Court says there is. yallerdawg Mar 2017 #5
But the Supreme Court isn't going to invent a duty that doesn't exist on the Constitution's face onenote Mar 2017 #6
Eliminates 2nd in Command bucolic_frolic Mar 2017 #3

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
2. Now they need to weigh in on Constitutional duty...
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 01:44 PM
Mar 2017

to actually hold Senate confirmation requirements and do their legislative branch obligation of 'advise and consent.'

The intent to never confirm a replacement when there is a vacancy is unconscionable.

onenote

(42,703 posts)
4. No such "duty" to hold hearings or vote exists
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 03:21 PM
Mar 2017

There is a long history of nominees not getting hearing or not getting votes.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
5. There is if the Supreme Court says there is.
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 03:33 PM
Mar 2017

Since when does the legislative branch have supremacy over the executive branch?

If the president can't supersede the confirmation process - as has been done in the past - then where is the relief?

When Obama made the appointment, he had waited two years to fill the position! This is why the Senate removed 60 vote cloture from the confirmation process and went straight to up/down simple majority.

If the Senate has no "duty" of 'advise and consent' why is it in the Constitution?

onenote

(42,703 posts)
6. But the Supreme Court isn't going to invent a duty that doesn't exist on the Constitution's face
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 04:03 PM
Mar 2017

and has never been a mandatory part of the process of considering appointments in the nation's history.

As for what the Constitution says: it says the President has the power to nominate various executive and judicial branch officials and "by and with the advice and consent of the Senate" appoint those nominees It doesn't say that the Senate has to advise and consent if it doesn't want to consent to the appointment. It doesn't set a schedule for consideration of presidential appointees (for that matter, it doesn't set a schedule for the president to exercise his/her "power" to nominate and appoint.

Lots of nominees who require senate consent never get a hearing or a vote. Happens all the time. Always happened all the time. In fact the country went nearly 100 years before there was a hearing on a Supreme Court nominee.

I discussed this back when the Garland nomination was pending as an example of the distinction between Constitutional mandates and Constitutional expectations, as follows:

There has been quite a bit of discussion the past couple of days regarding the senate repubs decision to stonewall any SCOTUS nominee put forward by President Obama. Much of the discussion focuses on whether the repubs are violating some Constitutional duty to hold hearings and a vote. Many, including myself, have pointed out that the appointments clause and its history support the conclusion that there is nothing in the Constitution that mandates that the senate to do anything with a Presidential nomination if the majority that controls the Senate chooses not to do anything. There are several examples (almost all from the 19th Century) of SCOTUS nominations not getting an "up or down" vote because the nomination wasn't acted on after being referred to committee or because the nomination was tabled or the subject of a procedural motion or motion to postpone consideration that prevented any action from taking place. In these instances, the nomination technically is still alive, although most of the time the President withdraws the nomination since its clearly not going anywhere. It also is not that rare for other types of Presidential nominations (ambassador, lower court judge, cabinet/subcabinet post) to get stalled out without any consideration (including no hearing) and such nominations are covered by the same appointments clause language as SCOTUS nominations.

The issue is the difference between Constitutional mandates and Constitutional expectations. As it turns out, this was the subject of a lively discussion I was part of more than 30 years ago in my Con Law class (team taught by a pretty high level group of professors that included noted Constitutional Law scholar Herbert Wechlser and future Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg).

The issue that was presented to us revolved around the creation of the Supreme Court. The Constitution states that "the judicial power of the United States shall be vested in one supreme court, and such inferior courts as Congress may ordain and establish." It also states that the President "shall nominate, and by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, appoint ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, judges of the supreme court and all other officers of the United States whose appointment is by law required to be made by the President with the advice and consent of the Senate.

What was pointed out to us was that there is nothing in the Constitution that deals with how the Court is to be created, how many justices it will have and various and sundry other matters relating to the Court's operation. It was further pointed out to us that while the Constitution was ratified in June 1788, the first president didn't take office and the first congress did not convene until March 1789 and that first Congress did not pass legislation establishing the number of Justices at six until July 1789 and the first Supreme Court didn't convene until February 1790 -- so the country existed for nearly two years without a Supreme Court.

The questions that we were asked to consider included the following: What if Congress had created a Court with only one justice (such that whenever there was a vacancy there would be no Court)? What if the Congress had not acted to create the Court at all? What if the Congress created the Court but the President refused to nominate anyone. Could the Constitutionality of such actions be challenged? And who would hear the challenge if there was no Court to hear it?

The point of the exercise was to drive home the point that there are Constitutional mandates that can be enforced through legal processes, and there are Constitutional expectations that can only be enforced through the political process. If the first Congress had not created the Court, the answer would have been for the voters to either replace Congress or get an amendment to the Constitution passed that established a mechanism for creating a court and for forcing action to fill vacancies.

That is what we face now: a Senate that is defying Constitutional expectations, but not violating any Constitutional mandate. There can be no legally enforceable mandate for the Senate to take any specific action on a proposed SCOTUS nominee just as there was no legally enforceable mandate for the Congress to set up the Court and bring it into existence together with the President (even though the Constitution mandates that such court is where the judicial power shall be vested).

There is no doubt that a Supreme Court with a full complement of justices is to be preferred over a court with a lengthy vacancy. But the current law governing the Court's operations allows the Court to function with as many as three vacancies (a quorum being specified as six justices).

Ultimately, it will be up the voters, and our ability to convince the voters, to either persuade the Senate to reverse course or to vote out the obstructionists. Its not something that can be addressed through a legal action.

bucolic_frolic

(43,167 posts)
3. Eliminates 2nd in Command
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 01:47 PM
Mar 2017

from acting and being nominated ... not sure this is a great decision, lots of experience
could be lost in this way. But it does eliminate Presidential pressure on Congress to confirm
such nominees. I guess that's a good thing.

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