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riversedge

(70,239 posts)
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 05:52 PM Mar 2017

First on CNN: Border wall ask: $1 billion for 62 miles

Source: CNN




First on CNN: Border wall ask: $1 billion for 62 miles


Updated 5:31 PM ET, Mon March 27, 2017

Story highlights

The request would include only 48 miles of new wall
The documents also claim that Trump's executive orders are already upping arrests

Washington (CNN)The Trump administration wants the first $1 billion of border wall funding to cover 62 miles -- including replacing some existing fencing along the southern border.

The $999 million requested by the White House in its budget supplement for just defense and border security spending would cover just 48 miles of new wall, according to justification documents from the Department of Homeland Security obtained by CNN.


The documents describe exactly where the administration hopes to put its first installment of the border wall, as it described its modest 2017 funding ask.

The money will fund 14 miles of new border wall in San Diego, 28 miles of new levee wall barriers and six miles of new border wall in the Rio Grande Valley region and 14 miles of replacement fencing in San Diego. The fencing would likely include concrete elements, a source familiar with the plans told CNN. ........................

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/27/politics/trump-border-wall-cost-distance/index.html




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First on CNN: Border wall ask: $1 billion for 62 miles (Original Post) riversedge Mar 2017 OP
Stupid is as stupid does. vkkv Mar 2017 #1
Is that how far the souther border is? I thought it was longer than 62 miles. ffr Mar 2017 #2
According to Wikipedia it's 1954 miles jmowreader Mar 2017 #15
So only 31.5 billion for the whole thing Egnever Mar 2017 #34
Multiply by many times jmowreader Mar 2017 #35
Not to mention all the tunnels - which Trump never does, btw. Wonder why... tenorly Mar 2017 #17
Not a huge fan of George S. Patton but... Girard442 Mar 2017 #3
In one of his many past lives... dchill Mar 2017 #5
nice Cosmocat Mar 2017 #41
$1 billion for 62 miles. Charles Bukowski Mar 2017 #4
It will get cheaper once they get going Chakaconcarne Mar 2017 #8
Sure thing, buddy. Charles Bukowski Mar 2017 #11
Not to mention how "cheap" it will be OldHippieChick Mar 2017 #43
Dumbest idea ever C_U_L8R Mar 2017 #6
We'll go bankrupt because of this preposterous wall ailsagirl Mar 2017 #7
They are going to Flatten the tax rate so,,, Cryptoad Mar 2017 #25
Not all of us, just average people, the rich will do very well. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2017 #27
How much of that will be contractor kickbacks to Trump Development? tinrobot Mar 2017 #9
The border is 1989 miles long so at $1 billion for 62 miles Mexico will doc03 Mar 2017 #10
That's assuming there aren't cost overruns either. Charles Bukowski Mar 2017 #13
Wonder how many people could get healthcare with $32 billion, miles of road could be paved, doc03 Mar 2017 #14
And this is a relatively 'easy' section n2doc Mar 2017 #22
And they will want to use all Russian materials of course. nt JTFrog Mar 2017 #12
What about Canada they can just walk over anywhere? They doc03 Mar 2017 #16
They can just roll in from the Pacific or Gulf of Mexico. nt BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #21
Most fly in from china and other Asian countries. They are the largest group notdarkyet Mar 2017 #29
I did know about the Chinese BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #30
Is that in Pesos? CanonRay Mar 2017 #18
How about give Trump and his family 1/2 that amount to resign and get out of the USA permanently Freethinker65 Mar 2017 #19
the morons that believe Mexico will pay for it BuddyCa Mar 2017 #20
Stupidest F'ing thing I've ever heard of elmac Mar 2017 #23
Reckon that wil be a ,,,, Cryptoad Mar 2017 #24
Meanwhile, he's planning to gut the budget of the U.S. Coast Guard. Tanuki Mar 2017 #26
FTS! luvMIdog Mar 2017 #28
That's 3 Grand A Foot, Right? ProfessorGAC Mar 2017 #31
A little over $3K a foot. Thor_MN Mar 2017 #37
No Thor, I'm Not Taking That Bet ProfessorGAC Mar 2017 #42
We can't have nice things like healthcare, social security, hell, The National Weather Service, ffs! EarthFirst Mar 2017 #32
the coyotes will be happy TEB Mar 2017 #33
Maybe dOnnie Dainty Digits BHDem53 Mar 2017 #36
These mother fuckers are insane. MrScorpio Mar 2017 #38
The cost of this stupid wall colorado_ufo Mar 2017 #39
Trump wants to cut millions from HIV/AIDs organizations. I want that fucker gone !! YOHABLO Mar 2017 #40
I thought Mexico was paying for the wall? anglesphere Mar 2017 #44
$1 BILLION $$$$ per 48 miles--and some fix it up on the existing wall. Bengus81 Mar 2017 #45

ffr

(22,670 posts)
2. Is that how far the souther border is? I thought it was longer than 62 miles.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 06:02 PM
Mar 2017

So anybody could just walk around it I suppose?

Brilliant idea there tRumpters!

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
34. So only 31.5 billion for the whole thing
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 11:03 PM
Mar 2017

What a bargain.

Yet somehow we can't afford meals on wheels.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
35. Multiply by many times
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 11:34 PM
Mar 2017

There is mountainous terrain and quite a bit of desert along the path of the Trump Wall.

And we can't afford any other social program, apparently.

 

Charles Bukowski

(1,132 posts)
4. $1 billion for 62 miles.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 06:03 PM
Mar 2017

Last edited Mon Mar 27, 2017, 10:57 PM - Edit history (1)

Anyone who still thinks that $12 billion estimate is accurate is an idiot.

 

Charles Bukowski

(1,132 posts)
11. Sure thing, buddy.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 06:20 PM
Mar 2017

Gump wants to start construction in populated areas. Areas with the infrastructure in place to make the job MORE efficient, not less.

One he starts building 30 foot walls in unpopulated desert, the logistics become more challenging, not less. Not exactly a recipe for reduced costs.

C_U_L8R

(45,002 posts)
6. Dumbest idea ever
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 06:09 PM
Mar 2017

Anytime a Republican squawks about being labeled 'stupid',
just point them at their idiotic wall

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
27. Not all of us, just average people, the rich will do very well.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 07:28 PM
Mar 2017

The idea of a wall is one of ignorance and childishness.

doc03

(35,340 posts)
10. The border is 1989 miles long so at $1 billion for 62 miles Mexico will
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 06:19 PM
Mar 2017

have to come up with about $32 billion.

 

Charles Bukowski

(1,132 posts)
13. That's assuming there aren't cost overruns either.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 06:22 PM
Mar 2017

Because as we all know, nobody defines "under budget and ahead of schedule" like the Republican Party.

doc03

(35,340 posts)
14. Wonder how many people could get healthcare with $32 billion, miles of road could be paved,
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 06:26 PM
Mar 2017

bridges built or how many people could go to college on that.

doc03

(35,340 posts)
16. What about Canada they can just walk over anywhere? They
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 06:29 PM
Mar 2017

can get in a boat in Canada and be in Cleveland in 2 or 3 hours.

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
29. Most fly in from china and other Asian countries. They are the largest group
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 07:35 PM
Mar 2017

Of illegal immigrants. They just over stay their visa.

BumRushDaShow

(129,053 posts)
30. I did know about the Chinese
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 07:40 PM
Mar 2017

which few other than west coasters are aware of. And it is notable in British Columbia (and the adjoining PNW as I stunningly discovered).

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
24. Reckon that wil be a ,,,,
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 07:20 PM
Mar 2017

no-bid contract for Haliburtion~Chaney Construction like the last time the GOP did this little wall song and Dance!

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
26. Meanwhile, he's planning to gut the budget of the U.S. Coast Guard.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 07:23 PM
Mar 2017
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/defense/325934-trump-undermines-own-border-goals-by-gutting-coast-guard
"President Trump’s intention to cut Coast Guard funding lays in direct contradiction to his promise to enhance the security of our borders. Among its many duties, the Coast Guard is the primary border patrol operation on two oceans and the Gulf of Mexico. The perimeters formed by our seacoasts far exceed the length of our land borders.

Hopefully the three- and four-star generals who now serve as director of homeland security, national security advisor and secretary of defense are working to convince President Trump that the Coast Guard is a critical asset that needs to be strengthened, not weakened.

The successes of the Coast Guard and the Navy are what caused the movement of drugs into the United States to start coming through Mexico. Drug cartels have three operational domains — land, sea, and air. Originally, Columbian drug lords were moving their cargoes over water while losses due to American interdiction were acceptable, especially considering the profits made from the overwhelmingly successful runs.



Then, the exceptional skills and advanced technology of our water-borne forces were implemented. To stay in business, the Colombians were required to develop a different means of transport. Mexican gangs were hired to serve as overland transport mules.

.........
Tunneling aside, if the land border becomes too formidable, the cartels will look to alternative transport means. Like water, illegal border traffic always seeks the path of least resistance. It is ironic that by reducing the effectiveness of the Coast Guard, President Trump is offering this domain as the cartels’ path of least resistance.

Moving beyond the drug transport issue, we still have the illegal alien situation. Coming across the land border is already dangerous enough for migrants. Reducing national security on the high seas is going to offer a boom to the water-borne underworld. "

.......

Col. (Ret.) Wes Martin served as the first senior antiterrorism officer for all coalition forces in Iraq.

ProfessorGAC

(65,057 posts)
31. That's 3 Grand A Foot, Right?
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 08:36 PM
Mar 2017

$3000*5200 is a bit under 16 million.
Now time 62 miles is $992 million
So, this stupid wall costs $3000 a foot???
What a boondoggle!

ProfessorGAC

(65,057 posts)
42. No Thor, I'm Not Taking That Bet
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 07:46 AM
Mar 2017

Sorry a little late to this. Didn't notice you had replied in "my posts".

EarthFirst

(2,900 posts)
32. We can't have nice things like healthcare, social security, hell, The National Weather Service, ffs!
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 08:52 PM
Mar 2017

Yet we sure as fu*k have $1 billion for a *partial* wall!

TEB

(12,851 posts)
33. the coyotes will be happy
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 09:08 PM
Mar 2017

My golden retriever and chocolate lab love to mark the fence in backyard the coyotes will be happy

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
45. $1 BILLION $$$$ per 48 miles--and some fix it up on the existing wall.
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 06:39 PM
Mar 2017

Oh sure Donnie,that entire wall that BTW Mexico is SUPPOSED to be paying for will only cost 12 billion.

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