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Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 06:50 PM Mar 2017

Racist sword killer says he'd mulled racial attack for years

Source: Associated Press

Racist sword killer says he'd mulled racial attack for years
Updated 4:27 pm, Monday, March 27, 2017




NEW YORK (AP) — A white racist accused of fatally stabbing a 66-year-old stranger on a Manhattan street because he was black says he'd intended it as "a practice run" in a mission to deter interracial relationships.

James Harris Jackson, 28, spoke with a reporter for the Daily News (http://nydn.us/2nXQFgo) at New York City's Rikers Island jail complex.

He said he envisioned a white woman thinking: "Well, if that guy feels so strongly about it, maybe I shouldn't do it."


The victim, Timothy Caughman, who was remembered as a gentleman and a good neighbor, was alone and collecting bottles for recycling last week when he was attacked from behind with a sword. He staggered, bleeding, into a police station and later died at a hospital.

Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/Racist-sword-killer-says-he-d-mulled-racial-11030644.php

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Racist sword killer says he'd mulled racial attack for years (Original Post) Judi Lynn Mar 2017 OP
How does one even respond to such evil? Ligyron Mar 2017 #1
You don't. Archae Mar 2017 #2
I disagree, he'll fit right in with the skinhead gangs in prison Warpy Mar 2017 #4
Both are the wrong approaches. cstanleytech Mar 2017 #9
Well, the problem is that if he's nuts by the legal definition, which is unlikely, Warpy Mar 2017 #11
No, solitary condititions are cruel these would only be near ones. He would still be allowed to have cstanleytech Mar 2017 #12
fry him heaven05 Mar 2017 #13
That means he can't claim insanity, and makes it premeditated. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2017 #3
OH he can probably try to still claim it but will the judge believe it? Depends on what the report cstanleytech Mar 2017 #10
You got to remember though... He's not Muslim, only they're immune to mental illness ck4829 Mar 2017 #23
The face of today's GOP. tenorly Mar 2017 #5
someone added this to killers favorite website, "The World's Most Goal-Oriented Republican website" Sunlei Mar 2017 #20
Talk about truth in advertising. tenorly Mar 2017 #29
There was a sword job in York PA last week too - are the Crusades imminent? bucolic_frolic Mar 2017 #6
Alex Jones listener?...nt GReedDiamond Mar 2017 #15
No, Sir, GReedDiamond, are you? bucolic_frolic Mar 2017 #17
If you think I was implying YOU were the Alex Jones listener, no... GReedDiamond Mar 2017 #27
sad @#$%&* AllaN01Bear Mar 2017 #7
Wow. Lunabell Mar 2017 #8
face of trump supporters heaven05 Mar 2017 #14
They have certainly been emboldened. ck4829 Mar 2017 #25
kick Blue_Tires Mar 2017 #16
Yet the coward killed an old man in a surprise attack. keithbvadu2 Mar 2017 #18
Kind of like Dylann Roof, shooting church goers in the back ck4829 Mar 2017 #24
What a waste of air, Keep him locked away forever. Sunlei Mar 2017 #19
"Jews, Blacks and lesbians" keithbvadu2 Mar 2017 #28
He figured now is the time to act and get away with it. Ilsa Mar 2017 #21
0. Racist sword killer says he'd mulled racial attack for years marne23 Mar 2017 #22
White male terrorists are becoming radicalized online IronLionZion Mar 2017 #26

Archae

(46,328 posts)
2. You don't.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 06:55 PM
Mar 2017

Lock him up with the general population at the jail, let him face the actual consequences for his stupidity.

Warpy

(111,264 posts)
4. I disagree, he'll fit right in with the skinhead gangs in prison
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 06:57 PM
Mar 2017

The only way this clown should be around other people is heavily medicated.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
9. Both are the wrong approaches.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 09:29 PM
Mar 2017

The real answer is you first find out if he is nuts, if he is then he is placed into a mental facility for the rest of his life or until he is he cured if he isnt nuts then you place him in a prison for the rest of his life without parole in near solitary conditions both for his safety and for other prisoners safety.

Warpy

(111,264 posts)
11. Well, the problem is that if he's nuts by the legal definition, which is unlikely,
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 09:39 PM
Mar 2017

he'll be shipped off to a facility for the criminally insane. If he agrees to medication and stabilizes, he would be let out at some point. See John Hinckley. It took 30 years, but he's out.

"Near solitary conditions" is inhumane, even for murderous scumbags who think they hate people they've never met.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
12. No, solitary condititions are cruel these would only be near ones. He would still be allowed to have
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 09:47 PM
Mar 2017

extremely supervised interaction with other inmates but it wouldnt be enough for him to join any inprison gang nor would he be free enough to murder or assault anyone else in prison either in an effort to make an inprison name or earn a rep.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
3. That means he can't claim insanity, and makes it premeditated.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 06:57 PM
Mar 2017

For a "practice run" he sure didn't plan it well.

After the attack, Jackson, who’s 28, went to the bathroom of a nearby restaurant and washed off the blood from the killing, authorities said.

Investigators said they believed Jackson was considering other attacks but surrendered after noticing his photo in media reports.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
10. OH he can probably try to still claim it but will the judge believe it? Depends on what the report
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 09:31 PM
Mar 2017

the doctors issue say.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
20. someone added this to killers favorite website, "The World's Most Goal-Oriented Republican website"
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 08:49 AM
Mar 2017
Daily Stormer – "The World's Most Goal-Oriented Republican Website"
www.dailysto......

tenorly

(2,037 posts)
29. Talk about truth in advertising.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 06:14 PM
Mar 2017

If only every GOP-related outfit were subject to the same disclaimers.

bucolic_frolic

(43,166 posts)
6. There was a sword job in York PA last week too - are the Crusades imminent?
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 07:12 PM
Mar 2017

Guy in York killed his girlfriend and her unborn because he thought they were
mutant aliens, or at least that's what he said

What IS the world coming to?

bucolic_frolic

(43,166 posts)
17. No, Sir, GReedDiamond, are you?
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 07:10 AM
Mar 2017
http://www.pennlive.com/news/2017/03/report_man_said_he_slayed_wife.html

A man who is charged with killing his pregnant wife with a sword in York County in late January told investigators he had to destroy her to save the world, according to a York Dispatch report.

John D. Ziegler III's statements to police were revealed in testimony taken during his preliminary hearing Friday morning, the report said.

Ziegler, 31, told police that 25-year-old Diana Ziegler was the "queen bee" of a race of hybrid humans that was taking over the world, which is why he killed her at their Jackson Township home on Jan. 27, according to the report. He told police he thought he did the right thing by killing her, Northern York County Regional Police Detective Mark Baker testified.

John Ziegler called 911 just after 4 p.m. to announce that he had killed Diana, who was six months pregnant with the couple's second child, a daughter they had planned to name Charlotte.



Ziegler told a 911 dispatcher that he was waiting with his 2-year-old son for police to arrive to the scene in the 100 block of Ledge Drive. The child was not injured during the incident and released into the custody of York County Children, Youth and Families, according to police. Zeigler surrendered without incident to the first officer to arrive at the scene, police said.

Responding officers found Diana dead on the back deck of the couple's home in the 100 block of Ledge Drive, police said. She had suffered multiple blows to the head and neck from a scimitar-style sword, according to police. Investigators said they found blood and skull fragments on the deck.

District Judge Thomas Reilly ruled Ziegler will stand trial. His formal arraignment is set for April 21.

Ziegler is charged with homicide and homicide of an unborn child. He remains in York County Prison without bail.

A senior deputy prosecutor said a decision on whether the county would seek the death penalty would be made by Ziegler's arraignment.

Baker said during Friday's hearing that he interviewed John Ziegler for about an hour. He described the suspect as anxious and upset, the report said.

"He said multiple times that Diana didn't deserve it," Baker said.

He also said he had felt "off" for several months, Baker added.

Ziegler also said he believed he could change the weather by changing his emotions, Baker testified.

"His interview with me was really all over the place," Baker said, adding that Ziegler remembered what he had done and answered his questions coherently.

"He thought it was a big conspiracy," Baker testified. "He said he thought everything would change with the election of Donald Trump."

GReedDiamond

(5,313 posts)
27. If you think I was implying YOU were the Alex Jones listener, no...
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 12:17 PM
Mar 2017

...I was referring to the crazy fucker you posted about who apparently killed his girlfriend and her unborn because he thought they were aliens.

That sounds like something somebody might do after listening to Alex Jones.

And while I have heard more than enough of Alex Jones, I don't consider myself to be one of his "listeners."

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
14. face of trump supporters
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 10:22 PM
Mar 2017

today. Arrogant, hateful...thinks they are the superior race and wants to kill as many people as possible not white KKKhristian and male/female. Will not be able to stop interracial dating or marriage unless bannon gets the republiKKKans to pass a law segregating the races, again. I hope he gets the shiv in prison, right up the keister....and he lays there and screams his life and blood away.

keithbvadu2

(36,809 posts)
18. Yet the coward killed an old man in a surprise attack.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 07:18 AM
Mar 2017

"would rather have killed "a young thug" or "a successful older black man with blondes"

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
24. Kind of like Dylann Roof, shooting church goers in the back
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 09:29 AM
Mar 2017

And yet they call themselves "warriors" for their (my) race.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
19. What a waste of air, Keep him locked away forever.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 08:31 AM
Mar 2017

The exclusive interview by NYP was well written, like a recipe for self radicalization. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/james-jackson-twisted-regrets-killing-timothy-caughman-article-1.3009736

RW Daily Stormer radicalizes another nazi loser.
Andrew Anglin
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/andrew-anglin
Andrew Anglin is the founder of the neo-Nazi Daily Stormer website, which aptly takes its name from the gutter Nazi propaganda sheet known as Der Stürmer. ... “Jews, Blacks and lesbians will be leaving America if Trump gets elected – and he’s happy about it.

marne23

(5 posts)
22. 0. Racist sword killer says he'd mulled racial attack for years
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 09:17 AM
Mar 2017

People have no conscience. In what country do we live?
How does a 28 year old boy think that?

IronLionZion

(45,446 posts)
26. White male terrorists are becoming radicalized online
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 09:37 AM
Mar 2017

and are a danger to society. Meanwhile Trump has taken hate groups off the watch list and reallocated federal law enforcement towards making America great again (immigrants).

I've walked around NYC and Baltimore with a white girlfriend and experienced very few racist comments. My Mom worries I could get stabbed to death.

I can envision some white liberal women thinking: "Well, if that guy feels so strongly about it, maybe I should defiantly resist bigotry and just do it."

I know several Muslim women who started wearing the headscarf to defiantly resist bigotry. I work with a few who are not even religious and are married to white guys.

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