Affordable Care Act Repeal Is Back on the Agenda, Republicans Say

[n2doc]

Source: NYT

WASHINGTON — House Republican leaders and the White House, under extreme pressure from conservative activists, have restarted negotiations on legislation to repeal the Affordable Care Act, with House leaders declaring that Democrats were celebrating the law’s survival prematurely.

Just days after President Trump said he was moving on to other issues, senior White House officials are now saying they have hope that they can still score the kind of big legislative victory that has so far eluded Mr. Trump. Vice President Mike Pence was dispatched to Capitol Hill on Tuesday for lunchtime talks.

“We’re not going to retrench into our corners or put up dividing lines,” House Speaker Paul D. Ryan said after a meeting of House Republicans that was dominated by a discussion of how to restart the health negotiations. “There’s too much at stake to get bogged down in all of that.”

The House Republican whip, Steve Scalise of Louisiana, said of Democrats, “Their celebration is premature. We are closer to repealing Obamacare than we ever have been before.”

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/28/us/politics/health-care-obamacare-freedom-caucus.html

[ancianita]

1. Koch-Mercer-Insurance warriors of attrition don't give a fuck if Americans changed their minds.

They will pay any price to get changed votes.

[brooklynite]

13. Koch is opposed to the current Bill...

[cstanleytech]

22. Ya but arent they opposed to it because it doesnt hurt enough people?

[groundloop]

36. well, more precisely it doesn't give them enough money (tax breaks)

They're just interested in this fight for financial reasons, they don't really care one way or another whether Americans gain or lose healthcare so long as at the end of the day they get richer.

[ancianita]

43. Damn right.

[Sunlei]

2. Been on Republicans shitlistagenda for 8 years. Time for a couple JOBS or NEW SCHOOLS Republicans?

without Obama Admin. to do all the GOVERNMENT WORK you can't even finish the damn transition

[Bengus81]

3. Translation: These damn "citizens" still have health care from that black guy.....

and we just CAN NOT let that stand. We've spent 66 days reversing anything and everything that helps and or protects working class people and we're not about to let this little "helper" continue.

[n2doc]

4. A bit more info

ByDAVID KURTZ

MARCH 28, 2017, 12:17 PM EDT



We had glimpses of it yesterday, but this morning the House GOP’s approach to the Obamacare repeal debacle came into full view, and it is … amazing!

The gist: Obamacare repeal is not dead yet! We promise! No, really!

No matter that they have had since 2009 to come up with a viable replacement and failed. No matter that nothing has changed since the bill was pulled Friday to make anyone think the votes are there.

The tell is in Speaker Paul Ryan not committing to any timeframe for bringing it back up again.

more

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-long-con

[hibbing]

5. I think they will trash it

They will neuter it as much as they can or dismantle it and replace it with HSA and some of the other usual BS they think will lower rates, which of course won't.

Peace

[MiniMe]

23. How exactly does HSA lower rates?

It is basically a savings account that you put money into. How does that help anybody?

[hibbing]

25. It doesn't just like any of their other suggestions won't

Even though they claim getting rid of state border restrictions blah blah blah blah..freedom.

Peace

[MiniMe]

29. I agree

Just because I live in the DC area, and buy insurance in say Oklahoma, it doesn't mean that insurer will pay DC Doctor rates. And who is left to pay the difference? Hmmm, who could that be? Guess I could take it out of my HSA

And I don't have insurance in OK, just for clarity.

[geek tragedy]

6. "this time we mean it" nt

[NewRedDawn]

7. So Lying again.

Thought Ryan & Trump said it was now or never. Ryan, Trumpski, & the rest of the Putin Publicans; lying is so easy.

[perdita9]

8. I guess they're not tired of people protesting at their offices

We throw a party outside of Sen. Pat Toomey's office every Tuesday. His staff is starting to look seriously annoyed.

[NewRedDawn]

10. Good. Let them go through the battle

again. Keep blooding the mother fuckers up for as long as they want.

[Honeycombe8]

9. Looks like the threat of working with the Dems worked. Anything but THAT! nt

[bucolic_frolic]

11. Anything other than Universal Payer they do at their political peril

So don't hinder them too much

Very SAD! the number of ordinary citizens caught in this GOP political game

[FiveGoodMen]

15. "the number of ordinary citizens caught in this GOP political game"

Half of those are directly responsible for this. And they make the same mistake over and over.

[still_one]

12. This should not surprise anyone. That is why I was saying that all the rejoicing was

premature. Even if it doesn't officially get to the floor of the House, they can destroy it by just stopping the funding of the subsidies, and you don't even need Congress for that.

Trump has pretty threatened that.

I won't repeat specifically what I hope happens to the POS who occupies the WH, along with his thugs, but I hope KARMA hits them with ultimate pain

[FiveGoodMen]

14. This is always the way

Lost count of how many times something bad has failed (Yea! ) only to be resurrected in less than a week ( ).

They never give up. They must be eliminated from positions on power.

[Fast Walker 52]

17. the sooner they are gone, the better

[yardwork]

16. Still yapping, I see.

[Juliusseizure]

18. A second chance to remind the working class

their party doesn't care if they live or die. They just want to save taxes for the rich and monopolize wealth and power.

The Republican party agenda in a nutshell since 1980.

[LenaBaby61]

19. Affordable Care Act Repeal Is Back on the Agenda, Republicans Say.

DEMS have to keep sounding the alarm about health care, and EXPLAINING to people what the thuglicans/Koch brothers are up to and WHY, and how they're neutering parts of the existing ACA Bill, and what people should look for in their health care bills etc. I know people who keep saying everybody will understand what's going on when they start losing coverage, and I always tell them NO people won't, and that Dems have to keep pounding the message home via their own town halls and meetings, any and everytime they get in front of a television camera or are behind a microphone.

The Koch's, MOST thuglicans, tRumputin, Pence, Ryan and the Freedom Caucus want people to DIE. Alan Grayson of Florida may be "out there," but he rightfully said in 2009 that the GOP just want people to go away and DIE QUICKLY. DROP DEAD & FUCK YOU. Hell, Dems need to play Grayson's explanation of this on the video he made on it over and over when they can.

[Fast Walker 52]

20. they still won't be able to do it legislatively... there is no feasible path forward

Hence Paul Ryan's face.

http://www.gq.com/story/paul-ryan-leaves-white-house-defeated

[heaven05]

21. the RW racist hate

of a true accomplishment of a First Class POTUS, is so obvious as the overriding reason driving the insanity. AmeriKKKa has become the racists playground again and all those 'minorities' less those hypocrites who joined the boy-potus in this debacle of an election MAY not have to worry when the sides line up in the coming real truth of ameriKKKa civil war.

What's that truth? A racist, hateful and ignorant crowd is the RW and some won't roll over for these poor excuses of human beings, guaranteed.....especially if their brownshirts keep attacking people not aligned with them. I can't wait until they get their uniforms. Make the bannon hitler proud boys and girls .

[Yavin4]

24. If they passed a bill that would take healthcare away from everybody and then....

slapped people across the face, they'd still complain that it didn't go far enough.

[videohead5]

26. This is a Bunch of Bull

The bill is dead.they know it will never get through the senate.

[Eliot Rosewater]

27. They are killing me with stress, dont know about the rest of you.

NO good motherfuckers....

[maxrandb]

28. Just setting us up to use the

"We will Repeal and Replace Obamacare" campaign slogan again in 2018 so they can stay in power

I'm sad to say that tactic might just work.

I weep for my country.

[OldHippieChick]

44. I have to hope that even the Deplorables get tired of playing

Charlie Brown to their Lucy

[The_Casual_Observer]

30. As they shake their fists at the clouds!

[beachbum bob]

31. never going away but they still have a problem...called 2018 midterm election

no way of passing anything that won't kill them in 2018

[stopbush]

32. This is bullshit posturing, the equivalent of the losing Super Bowl team

shaking their fists and saying how they'll defeat the team they just lost to...next year.

A face-saving ploy that allows them to go back to the 17% of the American public that likes their plan and spread the lie that the massive defeat they suffered was a mere setback, and that they are working hard to repeal Ocare.

[Blanks]

33. They'll never get the two sides to agree...

If they want to pass anything they'll have to get the republican moderates to work with the democrats to fix the known problems with Obamacare.

They'll insist on medicaid expansion to the red states that rejected it, and establish maximum costs for pharmaceuticals, labs and certain services.

It's gonna take more government, instead of less. If Trump wants to stay around after January of 2019, he needs to start dealing now. Toss the 'freedom caucus' (aka Koch tea party candidates) to the curb and deal with the democrats and the republicans who want to have a job in a year and a half.

That's how I see it anyway.

[Nitram]

34. One Trick Pony. They got nothing else. Obessive Compulsive Disorder to the max.

They will keep[ banging their heads against that brick wall until their brains are trickling down their noses.

[Chipper Chat]

35. let them try this crap. good.

Bog down everything thru Nov 2018. Flip 75 seats.

[YOHABLO]

37. They are scum, pure and simple. Now I can't say what I really want to.

[mwooldri]

38. So if partial repeal, partial replace didn't work...

... partial repeal, no replace?

Ungh

[briv1016]

39. They can't fundraise off of a repeal if they quit.

They'll be "continuing to work to repeal this oppressive law" well into 2018.

[iluvtennis]

40. GAH...Dems celebrated too quickly, rethugs don't get it, the grass roots ppl denied AHCA, not Dems

[oldcynic]

41. Aw hell,

Thought I would have a few days not worrying about paying medical bills with imaginary money. Democracy is damn difficult. It requires relentless attention.

[Demsrule86]

42. I don't think they can do it...they are just trying to save face...still working on it...left

in the field.