These scientists want to create red teams to challenge climate research. Congress is listening

[jpak]

Source: Washington Post

Prominent scientists operating outside the scientific consensus on climate change urged Congress on Wednesday to fund “red teams” to investigate “natural” causes of global warming and challenge the findings of the United Nations’ climate science panel.

The suggestion for a counter-investigative science force — or red team — was presented in prepared testimony by scientists known for questioning the influence of human activity on global warming. It comes at a time when President Trump and other members of the administration have expressed doubt about the accepted science of climate change, and are considering drastic cuts to federal funding for scientific research.

A main mission of the red teams would be to challenge the scientific consensus on climate change, including the work of the United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, whose reports are widely considered the authority on climate science.

“One way to aid Congress in understanding more of the climate issue than what is produced by biased ‘official’ panels of the climate establishment is to organize and fund credible ‘Red Teams’ that look at issues such as natural variability, the failure of climate models and the huge benefits to society from affordable energy, carbon-based and otherwise,” said witness John Christy, an atmospheric scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, in his prepared testimony. “I would expect such a team would offer to Congress some very different conclusions regarding the human impacts on climate.”

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[bucolic_frolic]

1. Why don't they challenge gravity while they're at it?

[DetlefK]

2. "credible Red Teams"? And who decides whether they are credible?

Some political apparatshik who doesn't know shit about climate-models?

[jpak]

4. Bannon

Alex Jones

Michelle Bachmann

[pangaia]

15. Credible and red teams is an oxymoron..

Or maybe just a moron
Or a moron on oxycotin..

[paleotn]

18. Teams composed of...

....terminally degreed engineers, biologists and others who don't know a fucking thing about climate science. They may be great in their field, but will also crank for money in areas they know little to nothing about. Then there are those in or close to the field who simply let their politics and/or religion get between them and the data. Assholes all.

[Delmette2.0]

19. As usual we have to follow the money.

As soon as someone starts investigating their funding sources we will have the answer.

I wish I knew how to do that type of investigating so I could help out.

[Whiskeytide]

3. Ha. "Counter-investigative science", ...

... sometimes they put the goal right in the name!

[jpak]

5. Alternative Facts

yup

[Freethinker65]

6. Save $$$ and just send Nunes running to the WH declare climate change is false

No evidence needed!! No sources need ever be provided. Never.

[karynnj]

7. Alt science! Can they declare that the sun revolves around the earth while they are at it! nt

[Blue Idaho]

8. Scientists my ass...

These are paid stooges for the oil industry. Probably the same guys that used to work for big tobacco.

[mountain grammy]

10. +1

[mountain grammy]

9. Oh, aren't they all so smart.. NOT..

Like Michael Mann said in his testimony "hogwash"

[blm]

11. Alternative Facts, Alternative Science, Alternative Leader (no-one voted for Putin)

Michael O'Donoghue was writing a PARODY when he penned SNL's Bizarro World. GOP takes the parody out of parody.

http://snl.jt.org/detail.php-i=198110105.html

[hatrack]

12. "Prominent scientists operating outside the scientific consensus on climate change . . . "

Change just one thing, and savor the results:

"Prominent scientists operating outside the scientific consensus on DNA . . . "

"Prominent scientists operating outside the scientific consensus on heliocentrism . . .

"Prominent scientists operating outside the scientific consensus on the germ theory of disease . . . "

IOW, whores, hacks, buffoons, zealots and clowns.

[Adrahil]

13. Christy is famous for being wrong most of the time.

In 2014 he claimed that the climate models were wrong and that warming had ended. Indeed, in 2014, the actual global temperature increases had tracked well behind predicted increases (they DID still increase, however). Now, two and half years later, the temperatures ZOOMED ahead of predicted levels.

For a PhD scientist, he seems to not understand a simple concept like system noise. It's fucking incredible.

[paleotn]

20. Loves his politics

or the money or the attention or all of the above more than science. Data be damned. In short he's a liar and a whore.

[sharp_stick]

14. These idiots can't tell the

difference between peer review and garbage.

They think there's a massive conspiracy against them because they can't get their bullshit studies published in credible journals. They can't get their minds around the simple fact that the studies don't get published is because the data is all disproven during the peer review.

[groundloop]

16. Yet they'll make a mint from right wingers and oil companies.

[Ford_Prefect]

17. They likewise doubt the laws of Gravity and Momentum.

I know a bridge where they are welcome to test those in person.

[meadowlander]

21. Why should they be bankrolled by the public when they are already clearly being funded

by the oil industry?

It's not like there's a shortage of money being thrown at this hypothesis.

[Nitram]

22. Republicans want to make the USSR great again.

[milestogo]

23. Lets start with a conclusion, and selectively gather data to support it.

Yeah, that's how science works.

[NewRedDawn]

24. Red teams for dirty greenbacks!

[tenorly]

25. Money buys a lot of great stuff.

Like certain scientists.

[C_U_L8R]

26. Red as in Russian

and regressive Republicans.
Don't these dopes know science is not opinion.

[Dustlawyer]

27. I would suspect their findings would be whatever the American Petroleum Institute, BP, Kochs,

and any of the other oil/chemical/coal companies said they were. They are all present or former employees or grant/fund recipients of these types of companies.

In the legal jargon they are called "whores'/gigolo's" who will say whatever you pay them to say.

(Sorry , no intention to offend)

[Permanut]

28. Ooh, I hope they take nominations..

I got some winners for 'em:


Ken Ham, creator of the Ark Encounter in Grant County, Kentucky, which features a "life size" replica of Noah's ark.

Steve Austin, PHD, Penn State, who shows on his Youtube presentation that coal is "created quickly", and who also believes that the flood effects from the Mount Saint Helens eruption offer proof of the Biblical flood, and,

The entire "science" team from the Institute for Creation Research, who can prove that the earth is 6,000 years old, and who informs us that we're not really sure about the speed of light.

[Little Tich]

29. Setting up red clown teams to refute the reality of climate change will not work - I hope. n/t

[Marthe48]

30. Maybe they'll move to Kuribati

and send reports from there. glub, glub, glub.


These complete idiots don't understand that the horse is gone, the barn is gone and they can't lock the f'n door.