Conservatives outside Congress say latest health-care revision push has foundered

[brooklynite]

Source: Washington Post

Conservatives outside of Congress said Wednesday that efforts to pass an overhaul of the nations health-care system in the House had foundered again, after a series of meetings on the Hill produced legislation that the hard-line House Freedom Caucus could not support.

It was very close a couple of days ago, but it looks like things have gone in a bad direction, said Heritage Action for America chief executive Michael Needham on a Wednesday morning call with reporters. Needham placed the blame squarely at the feet of moderates: Its kind of stunning that in 24 hours, instead of building support for good policy, theyve kind of abandoned it.

...snip...

Two aides familiar with the discussions who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe a private meeting said that major disagreements remain between the conservatives and moderates — primarily over the extent to which states should be allowed to roll back Affordable Care Act mandates aimed at keeping insurance available and affordable to people with preexisting medical conditions.

According to Needham, up to 20 members of the Freedom Caucus had been ready to support a more conservative proposal, one that would have allowed states to undo most of the mandates. The new proposal, he argued, put the bill “to the left” of the failed American Health Care Act, by requiring states to seek permission for exemptions to those mandates — alienating conservatives to appeal to the Tuesday Group.


Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/conservatives-outside-congress-say-latest-health-care-reform-push-has-foundered/2017/04/05/01435d36-1a11-11e7-855e-4824bbb5d748_story.html

---

[lark]

1. Freedom Caucus sets bar in the stratosphere.

If they can't kill folks and take poor folks $ to give to the rich, well, then they totally aren't interested, the sick fools. They want death care. If you have their coverage and aren't part of the 1% and get badly sick or injured, you die. They will accept nothing less.

[geek tragedy]

2. Just like every negotiation with the HFC--they're not interested in getting to yes, only to making

increasingly irrational demands.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

3. Yes indeedy

[Moostache]

4. These clowns hate facts, but here are a few they should start warming to...

1) Fact: Americans no longer believe health care is a privilege, it is now and forevermore a RIGHT.
2) Fact: Even dim-witted, brain-washed deplorables recognize that they know people who would be dead inside of a year without protection from pre-existing condition restrictions on access or insurance.
3) Fact: Single-payer is the endgame to all of this nonsense and the elimination of the entire healthcare industry in favor of a universal access program like Medicare for All is the ultimate solution.

The GOP is not in a position to change these facts, so they do what they do best...muddy the waters, lie and pick out red herrings to distract and delay.

[brooklynite]

5. Single-payer does not eliminate "the healthcare industry"...

...it regulates their pricing (except that people will likely still be able to pay for improved access or services). The only thing eliminated is the role of the insurance industry.

[Moostache]

7. The removal of the insurance vampire is a good start...

The fact is the one element of the current system that provides absolutely NOTHING to the patient outcome is the insurance element. They scrape profits and a living off of the misery and misfortune of others and their CEOs rake in MILLIONS for this...eliminating that is a great step towards making the industry of healthcare a lot better off...

[hibbing]

6. "overhaul of the nations health-care system"

I always love the language used by media in general. It is not an overhaul of the nation's health care system. It is a plan to kick up to 24 million people off health insurance.



Peace

[Bradical79]

8. Surprise jerks!

Your proposals are still garbage, and will always be garbage. There's still enough Republicans with enough of a sense of self preservation to know they're fucked if they just eniminate the whole thing. And then you've also got enough nutters uninterested in anything but the most destructive "compromise".

Hope this staus quo stays in effect for a long time.

[Johnny2X2X]

9. Obamacare is working

They wouldn't be so desperate to replace it if they thought it was going to fail. This tells me that Obamacare is going to continue to work well. Otherwise they would just wait for it to fail and then blame Obama while replacing it.

[left-of-center2012]

10. What additional concessions do they want?

The last hing Trump and the GOP leadership said they'd toss out the window to get right wing support
was paying for hospitalization and prescription drugs.